Sikhilove

On 4/30/2015 at 8:01 PM, CdnSikhGirl said:

Truthseeker... this is best how I can explain it:

 

Everything we know to be real physically is illusion. Space, and even time are constructs. The Ultimate underlying reality is formless (no space) and unchanging (no time). Hard to picture right? Not if you look at quantum physics which states that everything really IS illusion. If you peer deeper and deeper into reality you will see that matter really is not solid. The tiny particles that exist beyond the subatomic level, behave strangely and electrons specifically, actually pop into and out of existence based on whether or not there is a conscious observer (google measurement problem / double slit experiment) Now, EVERY single atom is made of electrons. Now, everything in existence is made up of electrons as part of the atoms which make up elements etc... this is profound because scientists can not explain it. Why an electron ceases to be ' matter' and behaves as a wave (which on its own is not anything substantial, but is merely energy passing through a medium of some sort. This tells us that reality is not how we perceive it with our physical senses. And even more profound is that even our physical brains are made up of these same particles! Therefore consciousness must exist beyond the physical (or else there would be no conscious 'observer' to make the electrons come into existence which make up our brains!)

 

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ਜਹ ਦੇਖਾ ਤਹ ਰਵਿ ਰਹੇ ਸਿਵ ਸਕਤੀ ਕਾ ਮੇਲੁ ॥
Jah ḏekẖā ṯah rav rahe siv sakṯī kā mel.
Wherever I look, I see the Lord pervading there, in the union of Shiva and Shakti, of consciousness and matter.

So at the base level of existence exists consciousness and ONLY consciousness. Are we finally through science peering at Creator?? At this level all is unchanging. Think about it. Every electron is identical... every quark is identical, and yet somehow they come together to create all these vast different animals, plants, minerals, humans... it doesnt make sense logically because say if you stack a bunch of ping pong balls, they will always be just a stack of pingpong balls right? Something must be affecting everything at that base level and since matter does not exist without a conscious observer, it must be pure consciousness.

So if consciousness is not created by matter, and is not matter itself, and it exists outside of physical reality then what is it? Science again can give us a bit of a clue in that everything in the Universe is coordinated by frequency / vibration. Light is frequency, sound is frequency, radiation is frequency, electromagnetism is frequency (this is the force that holds atoms together) etc. Consciousness itself can be measured as purely frequencies by EEG.

SGGSJ too tells us about frequency and vibration and refers to celestial sound currents. Its no wonder that we are told that when we detune from this world, we can hear these vibrations / sound currents.

 

So basically all of existence is non-physical. Its formless, and absolute. There is no time no space just pure frequency. This pure frequency IS consciousness itself. And there is only ONE.

 

Okay so what is creation then? A thought? A dream?

 

 

ਭਭਾ ਭਰਮੁ ਮਿਟਾਵਹੁ ਅਪਨਾ ॥

Bẖabẖā bẖaram mitāvhu apnā.

BHABHA: Cast out your doubt and delusion -

 

ਇਆ ਸੰਸਾਰੁ ਸਗਲ ਹੈ ਸੁਪਨਾ ॥

I▫ā sansār sagal hai supnā.

this world is just a dream.

So, there is ONE Consciousness, and it's dreaming or thinking this reality into existence. Inside the dream, there is time and space (think about when you dream at night.... how can you say how much 'space' your dreamworld takes up? You can't because in reality its only frequency of your thoughts. In your dreams, there are different characters right? Some seem to interact separately from you... but are they really separate? Or are ALL the dream characters really created by your own thoughts? Imagine in your dream you are chased by a monster... is that monster some separate entity? Or is it still part of you and being controlled by your own consciousness (or subconscious)?? All the good and all the bad that happen within your dreams are still ALL YOU.

 

Now... the kicker... rembering that this world is ALSO just a dream. And there was only ever ONE consciousness... then WHO really is the dreamer?? Or are you just the little dreamer within the BIG dream?? Remember that we have peered into quantum level and this reality is also not the solid matter we think it is! IT TOO is merely frequency!!! And consciousness creates the construct that we experience.

 

So can you understand now, how ALL of the characters are really ONE Creator playing all of them? And also how a dream would evolve over time? We know the Universe is expanding right? What is it expanding into? What lies beyond? This dilemma ceases to exist when you realize that the Universe is the dream, and dreams do not take up any space at all since they are merely thoughts. As the dreamer continues to dream, the dreamworld gets larger, and expands.... think again of your own dreams. You start on a road and then you drive down that road, and the construct gets larger as your mind creates more and more dreamworld.

Now to reincarnation... the question of life after death is moot really. Classical idea of reincarnation doesnt make sense... but when you look at it as that the nonphysical consciousness is evolving and becoming self aware, then it makes sense. It's a constant process of continually unfolding consciousness and awareness. Since we are all part of that consciousness, and these bodies are just shells... just dream characters, then the only real true consciousness is that of Waheguru Ji. And there is no separateness... there never was. It's just an illusion of separateness.

At some point you will have played the part of every character that has ever lived or ever will live. In fact you have already done this!
Because in actuality they are all really the same ONE actor. You/I/We have just forgotten who we really are.

So why did the Creator cause itself to become lost in this dreamworld as many separate characters who have forgotten who they really are? Because its the only way it can contemplate itself (because from the vantage point of ONEness it knows nothing else)

It has been said that reality is the act of the ONE Creator, subjectively experiencing itself through its own creation. A process of unfolding consciousness... the Universe itself is becoming self aware.

 

I could post many Gurbani tuks to support all of the above, however its already a long read... LOL. You can find them yourself!

Agreed. Although God created us out of pure unconditional Love, to discover what He did in a fraction of the time. For He himself sat in the primal void for many ages in deep contemplation of Himself. 
 

Truth is a Pure Unconditional Love. 

4 hours ago, kidsama said:

Yesterday night, after doing Kirtan Sohila and first paure (ardass) of chandi di vaar (pritham bahguti simar ke..), I was feeling a little scared, because I didn't want to see one in real life. Only during the day I want to see them lol. Then I started doing Brahm Kavach with the intention of protecting myself and attacking them straight up. I did it 3x times. The first time I started feeling scared, I had my eyes closed, but I wanted to keep them open. I still kept them close for the most part, and I was also getting the bir ras feeling at the same time. Your tip of imagining your astral body as a bright lion really helped. Then I recited this shabad; a couple of times. 

ਸੰਖ ਚਕ੍ਰ ਮਾਲਾ ਤਿਲਕੁ ਬਿਰਾਜਿਤ ਦੇਖਿ ਪ੍ਰਤਾਪੁ ਜਮੁ ਡਰਿਓ ॥
ਨਿਰਭਉ ਭਏ ਰਾਮ ਬਲ ਗਰਜਿਤ ਜਨਮ ਮਰਨ ਸੰਤਾਪ ਹਿਰਿਓ ॥੨॥

I was feeling good then, like I won and  I powered through the fear. I then did 2 mins or so of waheguru simran, to thank him. At this point I was feeling no fear, even when I was trying to imagine them, no fear at all. And for a little bit I was feeling like you do, seeing god in everyone, and just feeling the love and no fear. 

Good for you. I imagine my astral body as a cheetah, fearless. These animals don’t care, they’ll attack and kill an animal three times their size without thinking. Fear is an Illusion. It isn’t real. And the Creator doesn’t fear His creation. It exists because of His Light, he powers the sun, moon, creates the playground these astral beings walk in. They can’t exist without Him, their really just His Jyot, as we all are, 

Keep going. You’re evolving. Talk to God whenever, he hears every prayer no matter how quiet, and He’s always there. You’ll fall in love with Him in the Dukh and the Sukh. God bless you.

Try picturing Guru Nanak, look into his eyes and talk to him. 

12 hours ago, kidsama said:

Thank you for the advice. I tried to do that, to see God everywhere, but either I am too stupid for that or my spiritual level is too low or maybe its' just not for me. And honestly I had just been trying to help myself out of this problem, not trying to walk the path of love. I am speaking in past tense because this problem is no more. It's all clear now. Kshatriya is my dharama. Had I started practicing and living as Kshatriya from the last couple of months without learning and becoming a sikh first, I would have just become hankari and never took amrit. I wanted to take amrit in 2019 Dec when I first got into Sikhi on my own, but then lost interest in mid 2020. Now I have been put back on the path of becoming a Khalsa, and I am both a Sikh and a Kshatriya. It's all play of destiny. Waheguru Ji ka Khalsa. Waheguru ji ki Fateh. 

You’ll be okay, relax. All happens with His Kirpa. Just believe the Guru and walk the straight and narrow path with courage. God Bless You

20 hours ago, kidsama said:

I think there are two of them. I have never seen them. It's funny that couple of months back when I was listening to songs and Sidhu moosewala lol, I didn't have this problem, but when I started again progressing in sikhi and doing path, I started having this problem. They come at night, around 2-3 hours after I go to sleep. A couple days ago my told me that she had a dream and she saw a witch in my room and she was standing in the back and I was sleeping. I was suffering and the witch was torturing me (mentally), and then my mom said that she was getting really mad at the witch but couldn't do anything. I didn't ask my mom to tell me more or tell her anything, I don't want to scare her, as it's a temporary problem. They didn't come everyday tho, maybe once a week or so, recently it was 2x a week. 

These are souls that are attached to me for many years because of me doing dumb stuff, and I had become a source of energy for them. Now I am rising, I guess they are trying to hardest to keep me down and not loose me. They feed of off spiritual energy, they are hungry souls.  I would like to say tho, don't loose faith in gurbani, it's only at the start its hard, and you will have doubts regarding power of gurbani and other fearful thoughts. This is all their work. It helps if you have good memory, because there are moments in the day when the higher reality becomes clear for a while, or when doing path, or when listening to katha, but then again the world pulls you down to it's level. Hold on to that reality, know what true, and move forward.

When u rise it’s normal. Even if you see one in real life, don’t be scared. Recognize it’s illusory form, it’s just God. Don’t fall for the BS. A Gurmukhi sees through the khel and hence lives in peace. Don’t lose heart and keep going and rising. This will make you stronger. Even when He beats us, it’s to make us get up fight and get stronger. 

If you want to, fire up an image of your astral body as a lion, and bite its darn head off like a boss. 

On 10/24/2020 at 12:06 AM, kidsama said:

Which path is good for Demonic forces trying to bring you down? 

I already do nitnem, rakheya de shabad, brahm kavach, bhaugati astotar, suraj kavach, and sometimes chandi di vaar, and do jaap of gobinde mauke mantra. 

Is there anything besides these banis that is particularly good to destroy these dark entities? 

Do ardas and naam simran. What I did was to accept the reality that nothing and no one is real, just false images, that God is everyone everything everywhere. Now I sleep fine. Those things can’t touch you if you believe they’re false images. You’ll live in a higher frequency, they’ll keep back. 
 

Also in your daily life And also when you’re going to sleep, just don’t care about them or about bad souls. If you care too much about others crap, ie nindaks, bad people, you’re caring about an illusory frequency that is lower and darker. Care about Truth and your own life and focus on that. Don’t care about others path, journey or rubbish, including demons And bad people etc. Let the fools be fools.
 

Play shabads when you sleep, it helps.. nothing should come near you when they’re on. 

Child sex abuse is also rampant among many politicians and the elite, it has been for decades. Many cases are covered up because of the apparent high societal standing of the perpetrators. Mentally ill people who should be brought to justice but go free. It’s bad. 

8 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:

You should read 'Confessions of an economic hitman' by John Perkins. I think most streetwise people have an idea of what goes on behind the scenes. 

Oh thanks, I’ll have a look at it

There was a book written a few years ago, and In it, there was a virus called the Wuhan400. There were many other signs this pandemic was to come into being. The world isn’t as we see it. Some go too far with this and are deemed to be conspiracy theorists. But if you truly read up history, the richest families, what America was made and based on, you’ll realise who Actually controls the world. 

21 hours ago, kidsama said:

Bibi ji. You are taking my message the wrong way, although I don't usually reply to get into arguments with someone who can't understand what I am trying to say, but your intentions seem to be good and for anyone else who maybe be reading and wondering about this topic I will explain simply. 

It's not about equality, or women are less than men etc. It's simply that the light of the Guru doesn't come forth when you have 4 singhs and one woman or whatever combination. Only when 5 amritdhari singhs of high rehat come together to administer the amirt does the light of the Guru come forth through them.  
 

Now as for your personal question;

I am not taking another janam. 

Kidsama Bhaji. im not trying to argue with you. I simply spoke the pure Truth. Whether man or woman, it doesn’t matter. Humans are Equal. The Panj Pyare are Equal. Hence their gender doesn’t matter. 
 

As for your reply of not taking another janam. It’s easy to fall, and we cannot know the future, only He does. We can only pray that we stay on the straight and narrow path and never fall. God bless you. 

On 10/18/2020 at 10:12 PM, kidsama said:

lol this is Exactly what I meant on that previous post, that your type of thought usually leads to delusion or weakness. Yes, men and women are equal spiritually, but we have different roles. Not very hard to understand. 

As I said... He will Happily make you a woman in your next janam, what then?

Women all around the world are being beaten by sexist men who think women are less than men, And don’t deserve certain roles or priveledges...mainly in Muslim and brown countries. 
 

Dont be one of them. 

Mai Bhago wasn’t stuck in the kitchen, she was out there on horseback. Was that too progressive for you 

On 10/18/2020 at 10:12 PM, kidsama said:

lol this is Exactly what I meant on that previous post, that your type of thought usually leads to delusion or weakness. Yes, men and women are equal spiritually, but we have different roles. Not very hard to understand. 

Are you serious? 

If Guru Gobind Singh Ji saw Mai Bhago, his bodyguard, as one of his fiercest and most loving warriors and servaks, then why would he want the current panj pyare to be men.
 

The fact that you find it so difficult to swallow is that no woman had offered to give their heads that day. If they had, the panj pyare back then would have consisted of Women. The roles you speak of are BS sexism. Open your mind and leave your brown backwards Punjabi thinking behind. We deal in Truth, not Manmade Culture.

The Illuminati are the richest families and people in the world, who fund government campaigns, control politicians and politics and the world in general as much as they can. 

The thing is that covid was man made, apparently even trump admitted it. The Illuminati created it to keep population levels down and turn every country into a police state. Read more about the Illuminati. 

Just now, Sikhilove said:

What? Men and women are Equal. You may have been a woman in your previous janam just as I may have been a male. The gender doesn’t matter, it’s the soul. God is One, Humans are Equal. We are One. There is no difference between us.
 

Is that so difficult to understand. The Gurus/ God made Gurbani So Simple, and sexist men seek to complicate and twist it. 

God can and may readily make you a woman in your next janam. What then? You need to prepare for the after, not be attached to what you are Now. Your janam now is Temporary. So leave your male pride behind, it’s simply Ego.

15 hours ago, kidsama said:

No. Because, when 5 Singhs of utmost rehat and character come together they represent the Guru in his physical form. And all the gurus were male. 

What? Men and women are Equal. You may have been a woman in your previous janam just as I may have been a male. The gender doesn’t matter, it’s the soul. God is One, Humans are Equal. We are One. There is no difference between us.
 

Is that so difficult to understand. The Gurus/ God made Gurbani So Simple, and sexist men seek to complicate and twist it. 

A lot of sexism still exists today. It’s BS. The quicker men and women realise this, the better. Societal norms are man made, we practice TRUTH not sexism and BS Brown culture. 

On 2/6/2010 at 1:15 AM, Guest said:

Here is my view probably little controversial. I think from panthic maryada point of view- men are only allowed in panj pyares just to keep the maryada of amrit sanchar held in 1699.

 

But from adhyatam aspect, if bibi has reached bhramgyan- i don't see why she cannot give amrit to others in form of panj pyares. There is no black and white rule there. It all comes down to avastha of an individual. Breaking maryada is discouraged because to keep joe blow sikhs like us in intact and discipline. But if an female bhramgyani or soceity of sant mandali sees this issue from bhramgyan perspective not from maryada perspective, this is non issue. So there is no clear cut answer to this. To make it less confusing, lets just put this in context- there are certain maryada or issues in the panth does not apply to the individuals who have reached bhramgyan.

 

At the end, once we start debating which maryada is correct on this issue- taksal, rara sahib, sgpc. We are really beating an dead horse here..shouldn't be concentrating on this issue too much..at the end, bhramgyan, bhramgyanis are above gender because they are merged in with nirgun paratama.

Of course women should be allowed to. Makes have made these rules, not the Gurus. Mai Bhago was Gurujis bodyguard and one of his best and bravest fighters. How can anyone think that women can’t do anything after that. Insane. 

49 minutes ago, harsharan000 said:

Sorry, but good deeds are karam. And as such, karamas are binding, are seeds which will definetely bring us back into the wheel of 84.

While Nam is purifying and liberation from the darkness of agyanta, and taking the jeev atma to the Jot of Sach, the realm of everlasting and changeless Truth.

Good deeds are lifeless, are unconsciouss tools in the hands of the consciouss beings. Or let us say, deeds good or bad are chains on the jeev atma which make them remain prisoners in the mayavee creation. So you see, good deeds can never be Truth or Nam the consciouss life force, as per Gurbani

Good deeds are necessary to live a moral life and be fit for walking on the path of spirituality, that´s it, nothing more. Of course, lack of morality can never allow anyone to lead a spiritual life.

With karmas wheter good or bad, one has to come back again and again into the mayavee painful creation, while being meditative on Nam, one gets freedom from all bonds, karmas, vices, sins and all that may stand between us and Him.

We have human janam, so that we may realize Him in His true form of Nam/Shabad.

In this respect, Gurbani can never had been so clear, for as seen in the following verses.: 

bha-ee paraapat maanukh dayhuree-aa.
This human body has been given to you.

goibMd imlx kI ieh qyrI brIAw ]
gobind milan kee ih tayree baree-aa.
This is your chance to meet the Lord of the Universe

mil saaDhsangat bhaj kayval naam. ||1||
Join the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy; vibrate and meditate on the Jewel of the Naam

saraNjaam laag bhavjal taran kai.
Make every effort to cross over this terrifying world-ocean.

janam baritha jaat rang maa-i-aa kai. ||1|| rahaa-o.
You are squandering this life uselessly in the love of Maya. 

 

So please do not take truthful living as Truth as many believe. 

Truthful living is living with and in morality, which after are all are karmas. This morality is absolutely needed if of course we aim to become perfect spiritual beings, but by itself is not enough for our union with Him.

For that, we need His kirpa and His Nam.  That is why the Bani says: Nanak Naam jahaaz hae, jinee chareeya se utareeya paar. So you see, it is Nam which takes us across the maha bhavsagar, while moral or immoral living, are like iron chains or golden chains on us, means binding us and keeping us prisoners in this mayavee creation.

Doing His Simran, is not foolish at all, it is wise for it is the only thing that purifies us, liberates us and takes us back to Him.

It would be foolish to believe the contrary.

How could it be foolish, if you are given a ticket to go to a safe place for a disaster(parlay) is soon going to take place and you make use of it?

The ticket here means the human birth, to board on the jahaaz of Nam and go the safest place: Sach Khand.

Do not worry for doing the whole day Nam simran, which would be the ideal, for it means to live a Truthful life, for while doing so, one is absorbed in that Highest and only existing Truth. 

In that respect Guru Jee says: mere preetama hau jeeva Nam dhiaeeyeh. 

So you see, while they appear to be like us ordinary beings, yet in their innermost minds they are totally absorbed in Nam, nay, I would even go a step further and say they are Nam personified..

We moorakhs can never ever understand their reality, we see and judge them from our pettiness, fully absorbed in agyanta.

Nam is not a word in any particular language written or spoken 

Not a mantra. 

Nam is Sat Shabad, is akhoot Jot,  is pure consciosness, is Waheguru Himself,  the Infinite universal creator  of everything seen or unseen, at all levels.

 

The last few three lines I agree with. Gurbani is Truth...the teachings are Gyan. Good deeds are listed as Truthful living in it time and time again, eg as below. 

On 10/12/2020 at 11:39 AM, ragnarok said:

Would jus tlike to point out that i'ts not possible to use naam for ego. We shouldn't confuse gyaan and ridh-sidh with naam.

 

Haumai naavay naal virodh hai. Doay na vasai khataey.

You can practice Naam, reach a place where you have followers, people who would literally die for you, and use that for evil. You can do naam simran and commit evil deeds...as many before us have done and I’m sure many will continue to do so.
 

Many fake babas have practiced naam simran and lured women and children into sexul assault, committed unimaginable sadistic and sick acts. Its happened for thousands of years. It is possible, and with that, comes a beings deep decline into the pit of maya.
 

Naam is a gift to be practiced with integrity whilst walking in the straight and narrow path. Misused, it can have devastating effects. 

On 9/21/2020 at 12:18 AM, harsharan000 said:

 

Almost all of us do His bhakti in various ways.

But have we ever asked ourselves what is true bhakti which is accepted by Him, and not only that, but, that one which pleases Him the most.

For if it does not please Him what we offer Him, then, of what use is that bhakti?

We do bhakti not to please ourselves as per our limited thinking, but, to please our beloved Waheguru Akal Purukh.

 

ਇਕਿ ਖੜੇ ਕਰਹਿ ਤੇਰੀ ਚਾਕਰੀ ਵਿਣੁ ਨਾਵੈ ਹੋਰੁ ਨ ਭਾਇਆ ॥

Eik Kharrae Karehi Thaeree Chaakaree Vin Naavai Hor N Bhaaeiaa ||

Some stand and serve You; without the Name, nothing else pleases them.

Raag Maajh Sree   Guru Angad Dev.

Gurbani, good deeds, everything Gurbani teaches IS Naam, for Naam is Truth. The Gurus told us that Truthful Living is the key..not sit at home all day doing naam simran. That would be foolish. If that were the case then why would we have this human janam. The Gurus led by example, choosing to live life, Truth in practice, on the straight and narrow path. The wise beings follow their examples. 

20 hours ago, Soulfinder said:

100% correct bhen ji as all of the souls aatma is one whether it belongs to a male or female makes no difference at all.

True. There are slight individual differences, ie our bodies in the khel, but we are in essence One, same Truth. That’s why of ego, they call it the darkness of ego.. it’s ignorance, hence darkness. Everyone wakes up to a world that He runs through And has created..His projection

How can you really be in ego if you accept this.