Sikhilove

On 10/14/2015 at 4:47 AM, paapiman said:

1. Nanaksar Perspective:

Note: Babjee below refers to Srimaan 108 Sant Baba Nand Singh jee Kaleranwale

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and once Babajee said, "Well done ladies! It is enough for you to serve your husbands. There is no need to come over here".

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[1] - Sri Nanaksar Stairs to God

 

2. Saints Perspective:

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Rishis (Saints) have said about a married woman that, "instead of looking to anybody else, she should regard her husband as her greatest Guru. A woman has to bow only to her husband and serve him with her own hands. Her duty is also to look after her children, her mother in law, father in law, brother in law, guide her children properly and look after the welfare of all family members. Thus her duties are many and all duties are of great responsibility.

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Bhul chuk maaf

The husband should do the same for the wife. Many husbands beat the living daylights out of their wives, abuse their children etc. What of them.

On 8/8/2020 at 7:13 PM, Soulfinder said:

Veer ji we should contact our sikh media channels based in the uk midlands. Also contact youtube groups such as nanak naam and basics of sikhi to raise more awareness of this great site. Could distrubute leaflets flyers of the website at gurdwaras,nagar kirtans etc. Also a facebook,instagram page should be made as well or at least think of how and what to post on there etc.

I think people naturally find this site as they’re meant to at the moment. I like how there’s basically no rif raf or emotionally abusive people on here. Extremely rare, esp compared to some sites like sikh Sangat where some of the people are really rude and awful

@ guest Em Kaur, Try doing normal excericse, running, weights etc coupled with vinyasa yoga and Pilates if You feel that the kundalini yoga Is too extreme for you.

On 9/29/2020 at 7:35 PM, Guest Em Kaur said:

Apologies, I shouldn't have used the word "advice", I am no position to give anyone advice (even myself, it would appear!), especially on a forum such as this ">

Wow - yes you are so so right though.  

Fall in love with Him - that's what I should do you are right.  I'll be honest, I'm not sure how but I am trying. 

 

thank you - I have stopped doing any other form of meditations now, however, I do still struggle with the effects.  I was told that you shouldn't stop half way through an awakening so I carried on for longer than I should have done.  Since only doing naam simran and reading gurbani I've had some amazing experiences though, I feel as though sometimes time has completely stopped and the world has frozen.  I am also hearing sounds, so I am reading the other thread on here too.  At first I thought the Church near me was just doing a lot of bell ringing practice. 

Well, you’re on the right path. Experiences like that propel you forward, giving you encouragement.

Regarding the Love, you’ll experience it for yourself. The more you practice Gurbani in your life, including daily life, the more you’ll recognize the love. It’s always there, we just often don’t see/acknowledge or accept it. 
 

Do naam simran from 12.30am. 2.5 hours is recommended...you’ll go into deep samadhi and knock out while doing it. But do at least half an hour. Relax and hear the ringing sound (Anhad Naad), and let the samadhi/deep meditation take you. Read Guru Granth Sahib, and understand it... it’s there for your taking, it’s all you need, esp mool mantar.
 

Practice Truth/gyan of gurbani during your daily life.. be good to others, kind, compassionate, forgiving without enmity, strong willed, fight until you win when you should, be a Warrior Spirit and a Good Soul. 

Look at many of the babas who try and teach, and then fall. It happens so often. I’ve seen naam used for the ego and more many times. Hence the path is sharper than a sword. Very few stay truth stay on the path, but those who do are a bright light in the universe. 

On 8/26/2020 at 1:41 AM, Guest Guest said:

Even after anyone does Simran they sit in Silence, so I don't know what are you talking about? "Sukhman de Ghar raag sunn, Sunn Mandal live lai"  So many people do breath meditation never heard anyone saying its dangerous. what u mean by swallowed alive? Even Sikh Mahapursh we call them marr-jevrah. 

So they are dead while alive & live beautiful life. Some say when one gets enlightened they cannot handle energy. So if after grace, God gives darshan & we cannot handle it then I don't know how come that's true?? Is grace is there to kill us? "IF God is merciful why would it destroy us" I don't buy that.why He would reveal to us when God knows we cannot handle him. If we cannot handle God then why it is called Sat, Chit, Aanad.  

Some people use naam for selfish negative deeds. Look at Prophet Mohammed and some of the Hindu Gods and Goddesses. Many fall due to lust, lust for power, greed, anger, attachment, etc. Naam, simran can destroy you when you fall down the deep dark well of desire. 
 

However, walking in the straight and narrow path, applying Gurbani to your life, not being Seduced by Maya, you can live a life of contentment and Chardi Kala. 

On 10/6/2020 at 11:54 PM, SunnySingh said:

Well Sikhilove Ji,

there are many things which you say with which I do not agree, but yet are respectful, as not all of us are at the same consciouss level, so no need to further arguments which leads nowhere but to bitterness, inspite of that,  I would just like to bring forward a couple of simple, clarifying and inspiring verses from Guru Jee in reference to what we are talking about: 

ਦੁਨੀਆ ਸਾਗਰੁ ਦੁਤਰੁ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਿਉ ਕਰਿ ਪਾਈਐ ਪਾਰੋ ॥

Dhuneeaa Saagar Dhuthar Keheeai Kio Kar Paaeeai Paaro ||

दुनीआ सागरु दुतरु कहीऐ किउ करि पाईऐ पारो ॥

"The world-ocean is treacherous and impassable; how can one cross over?

*Note: Here Guru Jee is telling us that, inspite of any maya - khel, the fact is we are caught into it.  The several gross and subtle dimensions maybe illusionary and false or perishable in a certain time period, but the jeevas, the atmas, caught into its snares for whatever reasons, are real as He Himself, as they are rays of that imperishable and eternal Truth known as Satnam.

 

ਸੁਰਤਿ ਸਬਦਿ ਭਵ ਸਾਗਰੁ ਤਰੀਐ ਨਾਨਕ ਨਾਮੁ ਵਖਾਣੇ ॥

Surath Sabadh Bhav Saagar Thareeai Naanak Naam Vakhaanae ||

सुरति सबदि भव सागरु तरीऐ नानक नामु वखाणे ॥

With one's consciousness focused on the Word of the Shabad, one crosses over the terrifying world-ocean. O Nanak, chant the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

*Note: In this verse, Guru Sahiban is revealing us, the simplest way to get out of that khel, which otherwise would be as good as impossible, so out of His infinite mercy and love for us jeevas, He is saying that if you want to release yourself from this my created khel, you have to catch on something which is the only changeless and flawless Truth, and that is His Nam.

I agree with what you say. The bhagat needs everything, yet she/he needs Nothing. Heaven is positive, hell is negative, there is Dukh and sukh, angel and demon. Without practicing Truth, it’s duality. In practicing Truth, it’s all Truth, Nothing, Love, Him. 

On 10/4/2020 at 2:15 AM, kidsama said:

@SikhiloveDo you believe in Dharama Raj? Do you believe in hell(s) where souls are tortured? 

I believe gurbani. The khel is beyond logic. Everything is Karam and everything is a khel, derived from Nothing. If one goes to hell, it’s Karam. But in reality hell is an illusion as is the khel. It’s beyond logic. We cannot comprehend it, using worldly logic... it can only be experienced and felt. And the path of Truth discovery never ends.  
 

Try reading and applying the gyan of gurbani to your life (Truthful living) and taking to long simran sessions from 12pm onwards. Go deep into your samadhi and discover it. 

Read all of Gurbani, in its entirety, the gyan is there for the taking. It’s priceless. 

20 hours ago, SunnySingh said:

Sikihilove Ji,

I think you are mixing the Creator (True and eternal) with His creation which is transitory and perishable.

All dukh sukh, janam-maraan, rich poor, health sickness, light and darkness......etc,  are due to some cause for which they exist and do end at some point,  and  this is all a khel of duality or call it pair of opposites which are projected by Him, yet,  while He having created all that, He is above all that paraphernalia, for He alone can and does exist by Himself.

He is Saebhaang, self supporrtive as stated in the mool mantar.

It is ignorance and incorrect to mistake Him with His creation.

For as the bani says:

ਨਾਮ ਬਿਨਾ ਸਭ ਦੁਨੀਆ ਛਾਰੁ ॥੧॥

Naam Binaa Sabh Dhuneeaa Shhaar ||1||

Without the Naam, the Name of the Lord, the whole world is just ashes.

So you see, one thing is the the Truth, Lord Waheguru, other thing is everything else, which is not Him, but just ashes, which are not Him

Please support your statements with direct quotations from Gurbani, otherwise it is just your imagination.

We should give our opinions freely here and wherever needed, but when it is reffered to Him, Gurbani should be our support, otherwise we can lead others to our lower mind which is quite bad.

 

He IS His Creation, and yet he remains detached from it in Truth. Dukh and Sukh are two sides of the same coin, ie Him. That’s why it’s duality. When you recognize the pain and pleasure, slander and praise to all be Him, them you’re free as you recognize the Truth. That’s detachment. It’s all khel, all is Karam. 
 

Naam is Truth, it’s God. Without Truth, all is an illusion, it’s temporal, subject to death and destruction, whereas Truth is Eternal. It has no image, no form, no color, only pure unconditional love.. a frequency beyond which mortals can comprehend. 
 

He Knows who He is... He knows He’s Truth, ie Sat. It’s us who wonder for ages in the illusion that we are seperate. When the drop is in the ocean and the ocean in the drop. 
 

19 hours ago, SunnySingh said:

Sikihilove Ji,

I think you are mixing the Creator (True and eternal) with His creation which is transitory and perishable.

All dukh sukh, janam-maraan, rich poor, health sickness, light and darkness......etc,  are due to some cause for which they exist and do end at some point,  and  this is all a khel of duality or call it pair of opposites which are projected by Him, yet,  while He having created all that, He is above all that paraphernalia, for He alone can and does exist by Himself.

He is Saebhaang, self supporrtive as stated in the mool mantar.

It is ignorance and incorrect to mistake Him with His creation.

For as the bani says:

ਨਾਮ ਬਿਨਾ ਸਭ ਦੁਨੀਆ ਛਾਰੁ ॥੧॥

Naam Binaa Sabh Dhuneeaa Shhaar ||1||

Without the Naam, the Name of the Lord, the whole world is just ashes.

So you see, one thing is the the Truth, Lord Waheguru, other thing is everything else, which is not Him, but just ashes, which are not Him

Please support your statements with direct quotations from Gurbani, otherwise it is just your imagination.

We should give our opinions freely here and wherever needed, but when it is reffered to Him, Gurbani should be our support, otherwise we can lead others to our lower mind which is quite bad.

 

He IS His Creation, and yet he remains detached from it in Truth. Dukh and Sukh are two sides of the same coin, ie Him. That’s why it’s duality. When you recognize the pain and pleasure, slander and praise to all be Him, them you’re free as you recognize the Truth. That’s detachment. It’s all khel, all is Karam. 
 

Naam is Truth, it’s God. Without Truth, all is an illusion, it’s temporal, subject to death and destruction, whereas Truth is Eternal. It has no image, no form, no color, only pure unconditional love.. a frequency beyond which mortals can comprehend. 

17 hours ago, kidsama said:

Maybe I am not at that level, but I have a hard time accepting/understanding what Sikhi Love is saying. Usually it's this type of thought that leads to distorted views of reality and people start believing that, "I am god", or "I create my own reality". And, as a result of that, they just get an excuse to live life and ignore what happening here or after death. In the end, they end up living their entire life lying to themselves, and fail to do anything worthwhile, and who knows that fate of these people after death. Reality is one. It does not change to your perception. 

I am talking about this because I also suffered from that type of thinking for a bit. It's best for me to see Akal Purkh as the most high, the one True King. And that's how it is. Rest I don't know. 

 

If what Sikhi love is saying is to accept his hukam and just be, what about Dharam Yudh? What about all this evil behind the scenes. We have been given this body to practice Dharma and grow spiritually, that's it. Earth is a karam bhoomi, not a heaven. To accept the world the way it is and just live is weakness. And weakness is against Sikhi.  

Just now, Sikhilove said:

He feeds us Dukh and sukh. Gurbani tells us that pleasure is the disease and pain is the remedy. The angel is him, the demon is him. Once we recognize this, we can live behind Fear and experience Only Love. 
 

We don’t accept negative forms. We accept that they are Him. Hence what can we fear, for we see him in different roops, different costumes. Then we are able to Live and Let Live, because it’s all Karam, it’s all His Hukam. The universe is as it’s supposed to be, perfect in each moment. 

Every single being in the Universe is in search of Truth/Him. Many in ego refuse to recognize Him, without realizing that they wake up to the Sun that is Him, sleep in His moonlight, eat the food that is Him, sleep in the bed that is Him, speak to friends who are Him, and dress themselves in clothes and deem themselves to be beautiful, when All is Him. We are One, whether we are in the darkness of ignorance or not. 

On 9/30/2020 at 12:56 AM, SunnySingh said:

Sikhilove jee, 

your above description of  Him, sorry to say, but it is far from reality, for to say that light and dark, or, dukh and sukh, are all Him, is incorrect, for these are pair of opposites, which is known as duality.

Sun can only give light not darkness. He also can only give light and sukh among other virtues, as He is the embodiment of infinite virtues.

It is we who may turn our back towards Him, thus have darkness and pain as our invitees due to our own manmukhta and agyanta, but absolutely not because of Him, for He is Har, the daatar of sarab sukh, countless millions of suns and moons put all together, would be but a pale and dim light in His comparison.

Maybe if you say, that in darkness and in pain, He can be with us, if we choose so, then it can be acceptable.

So let us stop making Him look as per our fancy distorted limited view.

 

He feeds us Dukh and sukh. Gurbani tells us that pleasure is the disease and pain is the remedy. The angel is him, the demon is him. Once we recognize this, we can live behind Fear and experience Only Love. 
 

We don’t accept negative forms. We accept that they are Him. Hence what can we fear, for we see him in different roops, different costumes. Then we are able to Live and Let Live, because it’s all Karam, it’s all His Hukam. The universe is as it’s supposed to be, perfect in each moment. 

On 9/27/2020 at 1:19 AM, Soulfinder said:

Sorry bhen ji i was mistaken lol. You are 100% correct as it does need to be shown the path of darkeness before we can value the light. Also guru sahib jis kirpa is need to get out of the dark circle which you mentioned.

To be a bhagat, you need to recognize the dark and light as God. Love is the reality, and it’s the good and the bad, the Dukh and the Sukh. The reality isn’t all just beauty and sunshine. It’s both the dark and the light for All is Him. 

You’ll know when you’re ready for it. You need to leave duality behind and realise that the world is an illusion, it’s all just God, ie Nirboah and Nirvair. Fall in Love with Him. Then it’s not just a kundalini awakening, it’s Love. 

11 hours ago, Guest Em Kaur said:

About a couple of years ago I started practicing chakra meditations and meditation that forcefully activates your pineal gland.  I wanted to enhance my simran jaap in some way and was hoping that this would help.  Unfortunately, this has some really aggressive side effects.  I have come to understand that this maybe a kundalini awakening and there is sometimes a purging stage - I don't know if this is true or not.  

However, the right hand side of my body still vibrates and I can feel the energy coiling up my back.  At first the vibrations were so strong that my whole body used to shake, which brought about anxiety and panic attacks.   I still have lots of other side effects but I won't go in to that now. 

I have since stopped and only do naam simran and paath and this has helped to settle my energy.  

My question to anyone who can answer is, why is the energy in my right hand side still vibrating? 

Also, my advice to everyone is to stick to the teachings in Sikhi - there's no short cut and no better method of safely opening up your dasam duar.

 

You weren’t ready for it. Practice naam and applying gurbani more. I found that after my kundalini rose naturally and I was applying the gyan of gurbani to my life properly, doing naam simran properly etc, ie when my faith became unshakable, I did it again and it’s amazing. 
 

When I practiced kundalini yoga many years ago and had the rising, I wasn’t ready and hadn’t pushed through and become stronger in my faith and life yet. 

With Gods grace of course, because there’s Nothing without Him. 

58 minutes ago, Soulfinder said:

 Veer ji that does sound like a horrible ordeal which you must have been through. Luckly dass has never touched any drugs,alcohol or smoking material which is guru sahib jis kirpa in my life.

Lol I’m a bhenji. You’re truly not missing out on anything. Sometimes, it can take falling down that well of negativity and pain, to fully appreciate the light. And so we lift ourselves out of the darkness and into the light with a greater force. 
 

Hence Dukhi, pain can be a blessing, as I have learned. 

19 hours ago, Jageera said:

Great. You didn't miss out on anything. Now you have a healthier body and mind from everyone else in your family.

True. For me, drinking alcohol felt like drowning in a deep dark well of negativity. I wouldn’t go back there. Good for you on being sober too. 

Just now, Sikhilove said:

 

True. Look at Guru Nanaks family. 
 

True about friends and family. I’ve been literally shamed, ridiculed, humiliated, bullied etc because I don’t drink. Our extended families are known to be drinkers, the men and women. For them it’s a shame not to drink, as it’s said to be part of the family name. I’m a female and I’ve felt it a lot. 

You just have to rise above it, and stay true to yourself. 

6 hours ago, Jageera said:

I haven't drank or smoked in almost 2 years.A huge factor in quitting alcohol is the ability to distance yourself from other drinker friends as alcohol is a social drug and the further you are from drinkers the lower chance you have of being tempted to drink.This is the toughest part.Your so called friends will mock,belittle and straightforward get hostile with you as you move further away from them because they feel insecure and inferior that you are able to quit and they are still dependent on drinks.They will do their best to drag you in with all sorts of tricks and if that doesn't work they start calling you a bad friend,ungrateful,unmanly,holier than thou etc.Just ignore and realize they are not your true friends.

Next is to establish friendship with non drinkers and get involved in activities where drinking is not present or taboo.

3 hours ago, kidsama said:

Just cut them out. Don't matter who they are. Anyone bringing your down one way or the other, see them as your enemy. Be free from these bounds, doesn't matter if blood relations or whtv nonsense. When you are rising, people even your parents will unconsciously or consciously try to pull your down to their level. 

True. Look at Guru Nanaks family. 
 

True about friends and family. I’ve been literally shamed, ridiculed, humiliated, bullied etc because I don’t drink. Our extended families are known to be drinkers, the men and women. For them it’s a shame not to drink, as it’s said to be part of the family name. I’m a female and I’ve felt it a lot. 

On 11/20/2018 at 9:41 AM, DeNiro said:

Wahguru ji ki fateh

I couldn't help but feel your situation because I know what it's like. I can only tell you what I know from the way I've handled things. Although its a stage of my life that I'm extremely ashamed of, I'm aware of the darkness and difficulties. 

I remember how I'd regret most mornings and promise to not do it again. Sadly, just past afternoon, when i'd be more or less fully sober, I'd fall into a sudden slump of depression. Worried about how I would make it through to the night, I'd be craving and planning my evening liquor session. The anxiety, frustration, and just the plain fear of being sober. Sometimes, it was as if I felt naked without any drink and needed it to cover myself up and be presentable.  My mind would be working full speed to convince me that tonight it would be okay just this once to get rat-assed again.  I went up and down like a yo-yo many times.  Problem was that I was looking to fill this hole that everyone looks for. As manukhs, we tend to fill the hole with 5 vices. When I went to AA meetings and was working on step plans, I found myself spending more time at casinos. Although I wasn't drinking, I was frequenting other naughty places as well as squandering thousands in casinos.  Now, after 20 years, I realize that the "hole" I was looking for was "naam" and because I never found any naam, I just went from drinking on to other vices.  There's people out there addicted to gossip, addicted to tv, addicted to kaam, addicted to violence, addicted to moh of possessions, addicted to moh of relations, lobh of money, lobh of more square feet to own..and so on.  Either way, theire lives get consumed by panj doots unless they become Guru ka sikh and start practicing as guru ka sikh.

What did I do?

- Eventually, I plucked up the courage to start  10,000 mool mantar over 10 days. 1000 /day. This was advised by local gyani and I just took his word for it. He said do it 10 days, no khaana peena, just simple daal roti. Wake at 4am, bathe shower whilst doing Waheguru jap, then sit down cross-legged and do 1000 malas preferably with an extra mala of 108 at the end.  Then wait a few days and start again on Sunday. So it went from Sunday to  Sunday (8 days inclusive) plus Monday and Tuesday week after (10 days), then a break on wed, thu, fri and Saturday to start again on Sunday.  Gyanee told me to go back after a month and see him. When I went back the first time,  the first thing he enquired was whether I had fallen off the wagon and hit the bottle after first 10 days.   But I hadn't, the vegetarian rehat and maintaining of purity on the outside did somehow cleanse my dirty mann from the inside. After 2 months, I changed my life around and started to focus on nitnem and doing simran with techniques my dad had taught me. I've never consumed any liquor since or even had any urges. After all, it was the urges that were eating me in those days.

I strongly suggest you follow official advice as mentioned by soulfinder veer. I honestly believe the 5 vice salok will be beneficial. I explained before how I found myself switching from one vice to another after I started AA. I truly believe that it's our human nature and the 5 dhoots power to fool us this way.Doing the salok in addition is a vey good idea.   In the end, it's not just about getting off the liquor, it's about a whole new transformation into a newer you.  I remember that during  the second mool mantar japs I found myself with lots of physical energy and started powerlifting and pumping weights that I didn't think were possible for me. Doing this will also be beneficial for you if you start with small weights and combo reps.

 

 

Sad you went through that.. amazing that you are okay now. My relative sadly passed away of alcoholism and my other relative was an alcoholic and now sober. They went to aa, therapy, do paath and mindfullness meditation early in the mornings, excercise A lot daily. Yoga is a miracle too, try it. You know more than I do what to do because you’ve been through it. 

On 11/14/2018 at 5:31 PM, Jageera said:

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh.

Any members here have battled addiction before?Other than abstaining,finding a new crowd to mix with,exercising etc, did you use any spiritual method to help you abstain and quit intoxicants?Any specific Shabads,Paaths used?Appreciate any feedback.Thanks.

 

 

That’s a tricky one. You need a therapist for sure I would suggest. Yoga is known to help addictions.