vijaydeep Singh

Gurfateh Baba Ji das is aware that your views are as per gnostic mystism.(Which also agrees to Pagan's sprituality. For this das salutes you). views of Das rather are more like Jehova Witness cult,Baptists,Hebronals,Penticostal,Jesuits and Geerk Orthodox. Das deem Chrsitianity as way to be son of God like Jesus.And Das thinks Gurmat is way to make us Brahm Gyani as Jesus.So Ds feels himself as Treu Christian while being as Sikh.

Gurfateh Dear Baba Ji, If you have not read Dasham Granth and all of Guru Granth Sahib Ji then it is your fault.(As you talk of history of creation)SeeVachitar Natak at least. Even Genesis in Holy Bible has more to do with scince then history.It is more in mystic form. Well see the Sabad Below Gurfateh Das got it and it is as follows. Star from Ang 838 and to the next ang 839 and 840 iblwvlu mhlw 1 iQqI Gru 10 jiq (838-18) bilaaval mehlaa 1 thitee ghar 10 jat Bilaaval, First Mehl, T'hitee The Lunar Days, Tenth House, To The Drum-Beat Jat: <> siqgur pRswid (838-18) ik-oNkaar satgur parsaad. One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru: eykm eykMkwru inrwlw ] (838-19, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) aykam aykankaar niraalaa. The First Day: The One Universal Creator is unique, Amru AjonI jwiq n jwlw ] (838-19, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) amar ajonee jaat na jaalaa. immortal, unborn, beyond social class or involvement. Agm Agocru rUpu n ryiKAw ] (838-19, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) agam agochar roop na raykh-i-aa. He is inaccessible and unfathomable, with no form or feature. Kojq Kojq Git Git dyiKAw ] (838-19, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) khojat khojat ghat ghat daykhi-aa. Searching, searching, I have seen Him in each and every heart. jo dyiK idKwvY iqs kau bil jweI ] (839-1, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) jo daykh dikhaavai tis ka-o bal jaa-ee. I am a sacrifice to one who sees, and inspires others to see Him. gur prswid prm pdu pweI ]1] (839-1, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) gur parsaad param pad paa-ee. ||1|| By Guru's Grace, I have obtained the supreme status. ||1|| ikAw jpu jwpau ibnu jgdIsY ] (839-2, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) ki-aa jap jaapa-o bin jagdeesai. Whose Name should I chant, and meditate on, except the Lord of the Universe? gur kY sbid mhlu Gru dIsY ]1] rhwau ] (839-2, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) gur kai sabad mahal ghar deesai. ||1|| rahaa-o. Through the Word of the Guru's Shabad, the Mansion of the Lord's Presence is revealed within the home of one's own heart. ||1||Pause|| dUjY Bwie lgy pCuqwxy ] (839-2, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) doojai bhaa-ay lagay pachhutaanay. The Second Day: Those who are in love with another, come to regret and repent. jm dir bwDy Awvx jwxy ] (839-3, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) jam dar baaDhay aavan jaanay. The are tied up at Death's door, and continue coming and going. ikAw lY Awvih ikAw ly jwih ] (839-3, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) ki-aa lai aavahi ki-aa lay jaahi. What have they brought, and what will they take with them when they go? isir jmkwlu is cotw Kwih ] (839-3, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) sir jamkaal se chotaa khaahi. The Messenger of Death looms over their heads, and they endure his beating. ibnu gur sbd n CUtis koie ] (839-4, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) bin gur sabad na chhootas ko-ay. Without the Word of the Guru's Shabad, no one finds release. pwKMif kIn@Y mukiq n hoie ]2] (839-4, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) pakhand keenHai mukat na ho-ay. ||2|| Practicing hypocrisy, no one finds liberation. ||2|| Awpy scu kIAw kr joiV ] (839-4, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) aapay sach kee-aa kar jorh. The True Lord Himself created the universe, joining the elements together. AMfj PoiV joiV ivCoiV ] (839-5, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) andaj forh jorh vichhorh. Breaking the cosmic egg, He united, and separated. Driq Akwsu kIey bYsx kau Qwau ] (839-5, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) Dharat akaas kee-ay baisan ka-o thaa-o. He made the earth and the sky into places to live. rwiq idnµqu kIey Bau Bwau ] (839-5, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) raat dinant kee-ay bha-o bhaa-o. He created day and night, fear and love. ijin kIey kir vyKxhwrw ] (839-5, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) jin kee-ay kar vaykhanhaaraa. The One who created the Creation, also watches over it. Avru n dUjw isrjxhwrw ]3] (839-6, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) avar na doojaa sirjanhaaraa. ||3|| There is no other Creator Lord. ||3|| iqRqIAw bRhmw ibsnu mhysw ] (839-6, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) taritee-aa barahmaa bisan mahaysaa. The Third Day: He created Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva, dyvI dyv aupwey vysw ] (839-6, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) dayvee dayv upaa-ay vaysaa. the gods, goddesses and various manifestations. joqI jwqI gxq n AwvY ] (839-7, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) jotee jaatee ganat na aavai. The lights and forms cannot be counted. ijin swjI so kImiq pwvY ] (839-7, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) jin saajee so keemat paavai. The One who fashioned them, knows their value. kImiq pwie rihAw BrpUir ] (839-7, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) keemat paa-ay rahi-aa bharpoor. He evaluates them, and totally pervades them. iksu nyVY iksu AwKw dUir ]4] (839-8, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) kis nayrhai kis aakhaa door. ||4|| Who is close, and who is far away? ||4|| cauiQ aupwey cwry bydw ] (839-8, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) cha-uth upaa-ay chaaray baydaa. The Fourth Day: He created the four Vedas, KwxI cwry bwxI Bydw ] (839-8, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) khaanee chaaray banee bhaydaa. the four sources of creation, and distinct forms of speech. Ast dsw Ktu qIin aupwey ] (839-8, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) asat dasaa khat teen upaa-ay. He created the eighteen Puraanas, the six Shaastras and the three qualities. so bUJY ijsu Awip buJwey ] (839-9, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) so boojhai jis aap bujhaa-ay. He alone understands, whom the Lord causes to understand. qIin smwvY cauQY vwsw ] (839-9, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) teen samaavai cha-uthai vaasaa. One who overcomes the three qualities, dwells in the fourth state. pRxviq nwnk hm qw ky dwsw ]5] (839-9, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) paranvat naanak ham taa kay daasaa. ||5|| Prays Nanak, I am his slave. ||5|| pMcmI pMc BUq byqwlw ] (839-10, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) panchmee panch bhoot baytaalaa. The Fifth Day: The five elements are demons. Awip Agocru purKu inrwlw ] (839-10, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) aap agochar purakh niraalaa. The Lord Himself is unfathomable and detached. ieik BRim BUKy moh ipAwsy ] (839-10, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) ik bharam bhookhay moh pi-aasay. Some are gripped by doubt, hunger, emotional attachment and desire. ieik rsu cwiK sbid iqRpqwsy ] (839-10, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) ik ras chaakh sabad tariptaasay. Some taste the sublime essence of the Shabad, and are satisfied. ieik rMig rwqy ieik mir DUir ] (839-11, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) ik rang raatay ik mar Dhoor. Some are imbued with the Lord's Love, while some die, and are reduced to dust. ieik dir Gir swcY dyiK hdUir ]6] (839-11, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) ik dar ghar saachai daykh hadoor. ||6|| Some attain the Court and the Mansion of the True Lord, and behold Him, ever-present. ||6|| JUTy kau nwhI piq nwau ] (839-11, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) jhoothay ka-o naahee pat naa-o. The false one has no honor or fame; kbhu n sUcw kwlw kwau ] (839-12, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) kabahu na soochaa kaalaa kaa-o. like the black crow, he never becomes pure. ipMjir pMKI bMiDAw koie ] (839-12, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) pinjar pankhee banDhi-aa ko-ay. He is like the bird, imprisoned in a cage; CyrIN BrmY mukiq n hoie ] (839-12, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) chhayreeN bharmai mukat na ho-ay. he paces back and forth behind the bars, but he is not released. qau CUtY jw Ksmu Cfwey ] (839-13, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) ta-o chhootai jaa khasam chhadaa-ay. He alone is emancipated, whom the Lord and Master emancipates. gurmiq myly Bgiq idRVwey ]7] (839-13, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) gurmat maylay bhagat drirh-aa-ay. ||7|| He follows the Guru's Teachings, and enshrines devotional worship. ||7|| KstI Ktu drsn pRB swjy ] (839-13, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) khastee khat darsan parabh saajay. The Sixth Day: God organized the six systems of Yoga. Anhd sbdu inrwlw vwjy ] (839-14, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) anhad sabad niraalaa vaajay. The unstruck sound current of the Shabad vibrates of itself. jy pRB BwvY qw mhil bulwvY ] (839-14, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) jay parabh bhaavai taa mahal bulaavai. If God wills it so, then one is summoned to the Mansion of His Presence. sbdy Bydy qau piq pwvY ] (839-14, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) sabday bhayday ta-o pat paavai. One who is pierced through by the Shabad, obtains honor. kir kir vys Kpih jil jwvih ] (839-14, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) kar kar vays khapeh jal jaaveh. Those who wear religious robes burn, and are ruined. swcY swcy swic smwvih ]8] (839-15, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) saachai saachay saach samaaveh. ||8|| Through Truth, the truthful ones merge into the True Lord. ||8|| spqmI squ sMqoKu srIir ] (839-15, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) saptamee sat santokh sareer. The Seventh Day: When the body is imbued with Truth and contentment, swq smuMd Bry inrml nIir ] (839-15, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) saat samund bharay nirmal neer. the seven seas within are filled with the Immaculate Water. mjnu sIlu scu irdY vIcwir ] (839-16, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) majan seel sach ridai veechaar. Bathing in good conduct, and contemplating the True Lord within the heart, gur kY sbid pwvY siB pwir ] (839-16, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) gur kai sabad paavai sabh paar. one obtains the Word of the Guru's Shabad, and carries everyone across. min swcw muiK swcau Bwie ] (839-16, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) man saachaa mukh saacha-o bhaa-ay. With the True Lord in the mind, and the True Lord lovingly on one's lips, scu nIswxY Twk n pwie ]9] (839-17, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) sach neesaanai thaak na paa-ay. ||9|| one is blessed with the banner of Truth, and meets with no obstructions. ||9|| AstmI Ast isiD buiD swDY ] (839-17, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) astamee asat siDh buDh saaDhai. The Eighth Day: The eight miraculous powers come when one subdues his own mind, scu inhkyvlu krim ArwDY ] (839-17, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) sach nihkayval karam araaDhai. and contemplates the True Lord through pure actions. paux pwxI AgnI ibsrwau ] (839-18, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) pa-un paanee agnee bisraa-o. Forget the three qualities of wind, water and fire, qhI inrMjnu swco nwau ] (839-18, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) tahee niranjan saacho naa-o. and concentrate on the pure True Name. iqsu mih mnUAw rihAw ilv lwie ] (839-18, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) tis meh manoo-aa rahi-aa liv laa-ay. That human who remains lovingly focused on the Lord, pRxviq nwnku kwlu n Kwie ]10] (839-19, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) paranvat naanak kaal na khaa-ay. ||10|| prays Nanak, shall not be consumed by death. ||10|| nwau naumI nvy nwQ nv KMfw ] Git Git nwQu mhw blvMfw ] (839-19, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) naa-o na-umee navay naath nav khanda. ghat ghat naath mahaa balvandaa. The Ninth Day: The Name is the supreme almighty Master of the nine masters of Yoga, the nine realms of the earth, and each and every heart. AweI pUqw iehu jgu swrw ] (840-1, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) aa-ee pootaa ih jag saaraa. This whole world is the child of Maya. pRB Awdysu Awid rKvwrw ] (840-1, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) parabh aadays aad rakhvaaraa. I bow in submission to God, my Protector from the very beginning of time. Awid jugwdI hY BI hogu ] (840-1, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) aad jugaadee hai bhee hog. He was in the beginning, He has been throughout the ages, He is now, and He shall always be. Ehu AprMpru krxY jogu ]11] (840-2, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) oh aprampar karnai jog. ||11|| He is unlimited, and capable of doing everything. ||11|| dsmI nwmu dwnu iesnwnu ] (840-2, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) dasmee naam daan isnaan. The Tenth Day: Meditate on the Naam, give to charity, and purify yourself. Anidnu mjnu scw gux igAwnu ] (840-2, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) an-din majan sachaa gun gi-aan. Night and day, bathe in spiritual wisdom and the Glorious Virtues of the True Lord. sic mYlu n lwgY BRmu Bau BwgY ] (840-3, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) sach mail na laagai bharam bha-o bhaagai. Truth cannot be polluted; doubt and fear run away from it. iblmu n qUtis kwcY qwgY ] (840-3, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) bilam na tootas kaachai taagai. The flimsy thread breaks in an instant. ijau qwgw jgu eyvY jwxhu ] (840-3, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) ji-o taagaa jag ayvai jaanhu. Know that the world is just like this thread. AsiQru cIqu swic rMgu mwxhu ]12] (840-3, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) asthir cheet saach rang maanhu. ||12|| Your consciousness shall become steady and stable, enjoying the Love of the True Lord. ||12|| eykwdsI ieku irdY vswvY ] (840-4, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) aykaadasee ik ridai vasaavai. The Eleventh Day: Enshrine the One Lord within your heart. ihMsw mmqw mohu cukwvY ] (840-4, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) hinsaa mamtaa moh chukhaavai. Eradicate cruelty, egotism and emotional attachment. Plu pwvY bRqu Awqm cInY ] (840-4, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) fal paavai barat aatam cheenai. Earn the fruitful rewards, by observing the fast of knowing your own self. pwKMif rwic qqu nhI bInY ] (840-5, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) pakhand raach tat nahee beenai. One who is engrossed in hypocrisy, does not see the true essence. inrmlu inrwhwru inhkyvlu ] (840-5, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) nirmal niraahaar nihkayval. The Lord is immaculate, self-sustaining and unattached. sUcY swcy nw lwgY mlu ]13] (840-5, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) soochai saachay naa laagai mal. ||13|| The Pure, True Lord cannot be polluted. ||13|| jh dyKau qh eyko eykw ] (840-6, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) jah daykh-a-u tah ayko aykaa. Wherever I look, I see the One Lord there. hoir jIA aupwey vyko vykw ] (840-6, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) hor jee-a upaa-ay vayko vaykaa. He created the other beings, of many and various kinds. Plohwr kIey Plu jwie ] (840-6, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) falohaar kee-ay fal jaa-ay. Eating only fruits, one loses the fruits of life. rs ks Kwey swdu gvwie ] (840-6, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) ras kas khaa-ay saad gavaa-ay. Eating only delicacies of various sorts, one loses the true taste. kUVY lwlic lptY lptwie ] (840-7, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) koorhai laalach laptai laptaa-ay. In fraud and greed, people are engrossed and entangled. CUtY gurmuiK swcu kmwie ]14] (840-7, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) chhootai gurmukh saach kamaa-ay. ||14|| The Gurmukh is emancipated, practicing Truth. ||14|| duAwdis mudRw mnu AauDUqw ] (840-7, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) du-aadas mudraa man a-uDhootaa. The Twelfth Day: One whose mind is not attached to the twelve signs, Aihinis jwgih kbih n sUqw ] (840-8, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) ahinis jaageh kabeh na sootaa. remains awake day and night, and never sleeps. jwgqu jwig rhY ilv lwie ] (840-8, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) jaagat jaag rahai liv laa-ay. He remains awake and aware, lovingly centered on the Lord. gur prcY iqsu kwlu n Kwie ] (840-8, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) gur parchai tis kaal na khaa-ay. With faith in the Guru, he is not consumed by death. AqIq Bey mwry bYrweI ] (840-9, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) ateet bha-ay maaray bairaa-ee. Those who become detached, and conquer the five enemies pRxviq nwnk qh ilv lweI ]15] (840-9, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) paranvat naanak tah liv laa-ee. ||15|| - prays Nanak, they are lovingly absorbed in the Lord. ||15|| duAwdsI dieAw dwnu kir jwxY ] (840-9, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) du-aadasee da-i-aa daan kar jaanai. The Twelfth Day: Know, and practice, compassion and charity. bwhir jwqo BIqir AwxY ] (840-10, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) baahar jaato bheetar aanai. Bring your out-going mind back home. brqI brq rhY inhkwm ] (840-10, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) bartee barat rahai nihkaam. Observe the fast of remaining free of desire. Ajpw jwpu jpY muiK nwm ] (840-10, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) ajpaa jaap japai mukh naam. Chant the unchanted Chant of the Naam with your mouth. qIin Bvx mih eyko jwxY ] (840-10, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) teen bhavan meh ayko jaanai. Know that the One Lord is contained in the three worlds. siB suic sMjm swcu pCwxY ]16] (840-11, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) sabh such sanjam saach pachhaanai. ||16|| Purity and self-discipline are all contained in knowing the Truth. ||16|| qyris qrvr smud knwrY ] (840-11, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) tayras tarvar samud kanaarai. The Thirteenth Day: He is like a tree on the sea-shore. AMimRqu mUlu isKir ilv qwrY ] (840-11, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) amrit mool sikhar liv taarai. But his roots can become immortal, if his mind is attuned to the Lord's Love. fr fir mrY n bUfY koie ] (840-12, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) dar dar marai na boodai ko-ay. Then, he will not die of fear or anxiety, and he will never drown. infru bUif mrY piq Koie ] (840-12, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) nidar bood marai pat kho-ay. Without the Fear of God, he drowns and dies, and loses his honor. fr mih Gru Gr mih fru jwxY ] (840-12, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) dar meh ghar ghar meh dar jaanai. With the Fear of God in his heart, and his heart in the Fear of God, he knows God. qKiq invwsu scu min BwxY ]17] (840-13, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) takhat nivaas sach man bhaanai. ||17|| He sits on the throne, and becomes pleasing to the Mind of the True Lord. ||17|| caudis cauQy Qwvih lih pwvY ] (840-13, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) cha-udas cha-uthay thaaveh leh paavai. The Fourteenth Day: One who enters into the fourth state, rwjs qwms sq kwl smwvY ] (840-13, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) raajas taamas sat kaal samaavai. overcomes time, and the three qualities of raajas, taamas and satva. ssIAr kY Gir sUru smwvY ] (840-14, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) sasee-ar kai ghar soor samaavai. Then the sun enters into the house of the moon, jog jugiq kI kImiq pwvY ] (840-14, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) jog jugat kee keemat paavai. and one knows the value of the technology of Yoga. caudis Bvn pwqwl smwey ] KMf bRhmMf rihAw ilv lwey ]18] (840-14, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) cha-udas bhavan paataal samaa-ay. khand barahmand rahi-aa liv laa-ay. ||18|| He remains lovingly focused on God, who is permeating the fourteen worlds, the nether regions of the underworld, the galaxies and solar systems. ||18|| AmwvisAw cMdu gupqu gYxwir ] (840-15, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) amaavasi-aa chand gupat gainaar. Amaavas - The Night of the New Moon: The moon is hidden in the sky. bUJhu igAwnI sbdu bIcwir ] (840-15, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) boojhhu gi-aanee sabad beechaar. O wise one, understand and contemplate the Word of the Shabad. ssIAru ggin joiq iqhu loeI ] (840-16, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) sasee-ar gagan jot tihu lo-ee. The moon in the sky illuminates the three worlds. kir kir vyKY krqw soeI ] (840-16, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) kar kar vaykhai kartaa so-ee. Creating the creation, the Creator beholds it. gur qy dIsY so iqs hI mwih ] (840-16, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) gur tay deesai so tis hee maahi. One who sees, through the Guru, merges into Him. mnmuiK BUly Awvih jwih ]19] (840-17, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) manmukh bhoolay aavahi jaahi. ||19|| The self-willed manmukhs are deluded, coming and going in reincarnation. ||19|| Gru dru Qwip iQru Qwin suhwvY ] (840-17, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) ghar dar thaap thir thaan suhaavai. One who establishes his home within his own heart, obtains the most beautiful, permanent place. Awpu pCwxY jw siqguru pwvY ] (840-17, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) aap pachhaanai jaa satgur paavai. One comes to understand his own self, when he finds the True Guru. jh Awsw qh ibnis ibnwsw ] (840-18, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) jah aasaa tah binas binaasaa. Wherever there is hope, there is destruction and desolation. PUtY Kpru duibDw mnsw ] (840-18, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) footai khapar dubiDhaa mansaa. The bowl of duality and selfishness breaks. mmqw jwl qy rhY audwsw ] pRxviq nwnk hm qw ky dwsw ]20]1] (840-18, iblwvlu, mÚ 1) mamtaa jaal tay rahai udaasaa. paranvat naanak ham taa kay daasaa. ||20||1|| Prays Nanak, I am the slave of that one, who remains detached amidst the traps of attachment. ||20||1|| If we go by littral meanings it talks about creatin of speaking and listening also. and May ILohi bless you you seem to have forgot that Sikh Panth is more a semtic Faith and nothing Indian about it. In Akalustat Guru tells that all worship God of Sikhs ie Akal. As per Sau Sakhi Guru Tells that forefathers of Moses and Jesus were Brahmins(Akal worshipers) who left India as refualsa to foresake thier God and restore to idolatory as Budhsit King Nanda wanted them to. Can you give and example that why rabbis keep uncut hairs.Yuo are gnostics and may not now Jews either. Below thier Cap there are hairs like that of Brahmins Shikha.

Gurfateh Evenglists lure by women,house,job and mony. Anyway we can think of providing a budhi(old lady) as wife to Baba Nijher if we had the same mentiality :wink: anyway we can get him fund of name,job of singing glory and house in the body of Akal ie univese.

Gurfateh Jattan Vichin Jatt suneeda Jatt suneeda Nijjar Loki tallde Chiri Batere Nijjer Talada Titter Jesu nu rab mann lau Nahi ant Painge Chhitar Baba Ji das is learning Punjabi to underastand Bhag Singh ji Ambalas wrong interpetation of Mitar Piyare Nu Sabad so just tried to write some thing for you. Das wants to know that did not it happened that Jesus wanted that cup of wine(marterdom) to be removed from him.Then via Angel God gave him reassuance. so who is Big.The God veryly. you say all is real. then why all is amde and why all is destroyed. all apperance is not eternal but decayable. Change and Decay is what All i say.One thou who chagest not abide with me. Did not child Jesus changed a body of youth.did not Ghost was given out.Real thing does not change. Revelations at end of Bible say. I am the one who was,who is who is to come.The Omega(Start only one) and Alpha(end only one). Judge not or you will be judge. no one can say true till in holy ghost(Brayh Gyan). Baba Ji why not sing Glory of Lord God for few days and attain the baptism of Holy Ghost and then let us talk. Anyway if you are not in reading(UK) and in India das will like to meet you and take you to Some Nirmala monestory.

Gurfateh It is onn(War3). Narsingha our member will also reimerge breaking the pillers and walls. Just wait for the update of shastervidiya.org.It is being updated. Best off luck to the both of the groups and thier interactoin is sorce of knowlede to many people like das who want to gain more and more knowldge.

Gurfateh Some of our Kala Afghana tye also do slander on other faiths and this is a result to it. Like helhia Charges to Rasool Sahib etc.All such things are not by traditional Sikhs but radicals in us.

Gurfateh dear Baba Ji, worm like das is happy to know that at last you are not interested with jatts and Khatris but with human kind. Yehowa Bless you. How can you gurantee that omnipotant God of holy Bible is bounded by any law of Natrrue created by the Same that God can not let soul be reincarnated. If God is bounded by something then that can not be omnipotant God rather thaqt can not be God at all. Sikhism is a semtic faith.So Hazrat Adam hale Sallah are termed as Baba or Father. but by will of our God Adam,Jesus or anyone else can be reborn or reincarnated. If by chiristian faith itself we creamted or bury with notin from soil back to soil then this means that again during doomsday same body may not be there but reincarnation. In Gospels Jesus tells of someone laready going to heavan. That does means that htere is some heavan already before dooms day but body remains here on earth.In heavan there could be some opther body. then just see the line before the line you qoute and why did you miss it. So our Baba Adam can be reincarnated.

Gurfateh Thanks Sher Ji. Kindly give the Ang Number also so that Das could read it.

Gurfateh das did read such verse(may not be the same) in Ram Avtar when Hanuman faought. Yes there are many verse in both the Books by Tenth Master which only have tunes to rise our mind's motivation. Such things are still used in military Bands. Jagardan man means from world or amy means awaken ie Jagarit ang whith Sandhi or Combiantion can be pronuice as Jagardang.If it is Naag ie big AAA then it is Limbs like Cobra or like elephant.If it is nag ie like nug or small a then it may means limbs like gems or perhaps hill.ie piter of pedro(means same in Christians).

Gurfateh rituals are somthing which are must as a Dogma to be done in religeon. As Sag Roti Ji mention it is not must for us to do chaur(fanning) Sahib or Mattha Takena(bowing) but optional.Say sick man in Gurudwara is not forced to bow and seldom all do chaur Sahib. We can use a term better as symbolism.Same can be said for various practises in other faiths like Islam or say so called Hinduism that it is more a symbolic but people deem it as ritual. Das is thankfll to sag roti ji for though provoking post.Das had similar interaction with Sikhs at gursikhijeevan.com and same were views there for parakarma.

Gurfateh In Sanskrit it is Grass and same is called Kour in hindi.Das does not know much about saying it for bovines but this does means the same.

Gurfateh Gurmat is Sanatan Panth ie First(and eternal) there was only Gurmat and other faiths came out of it. Aad Sach Jugad Sach Hai Bhi Sach Nanak Hosi Bhi Sach. And it will be the Last also.It is here to comliment the other religeons. All people lead to us if they are faithfull to thier God be it Hindu,Muslim of Christian.

Gurfateh swas(Breth) Swas(Breath) Swas(breth) Giras(chunk of meal put in mouth at one time).

Gurfateh Well Rajs Ji are our old friend nijjer Baba Ji and as expected gnostic missionaries are mystics and instead of going by archelogical and scriptural knowledge he is going by what he thinks. Dasham Granth(last Part) and Sarbloh Granth states that 5ks or 3Muidras are as per old traditon. Kes,Kacchera and Kirpan was there isnce the time of first master.Swrod of Guru Nanakdev ji can be seen in Patna Sahib and old Shaster Vidya people start thier linage from Akal and then to First Guru.bhai mardana was told to keep uncut hairs.Old Kachceras are also still perhpas present.but who can convince Nijjer Baba Ji? Then Charan Pahul was there before Pahul of Sabre. (Ref Sau Sakhi).It was water with dipping of Rumala(covering claoth) of Guru Granth Sahib Ji(perhaps other pothis before as to deem Gurbani as Guru).God bless Nijeer Baba Ji he must know that before Lord jesus came John the Baptist starteed baptism and told that one who is to come will do the baptism of holy ghost(Brahm Gyan). Guru gave us Gurugaddi and his form as Khalsa and talk to us instead of talking misguiding thing about our Gurus.Akal Bless.

Gurfateh Jattan Di ho Gayee Balle Balle and Kharian Di Katr hai Hai.Dekho Dekho Nijjar Baba Part Ke Aye. So Bapu Ji you are Back and with old style of tagging hinduism with Gurmat and trying to bring bad feelings among Sikhs and Hindus. both by language of other middle east and old Santan Dharmi scriptures hindu was aderogaotry remark. Yet like neggro sometimes says by proud that I am nigger just to put a slap on the face of racial pople due to Hindu race sometime if someone makes racial comments das can say so what I am hindu but I am chinees,Birtish,Papua New Geaniiean,Ghanian also As A Sikh I am from World. As you are from gnostic church you always see body of Jesus or say our Gurus.You do not understand that our Guru is Yehova/Allah/Akal/Prahbrahma. Like Christian missioanries Aray Samajis also have been trying to spread rumours from misinterperting scriptures and legends since ages but Panth still exist. Rest of the members are informed that Rajs ji are our Baba Rajinder Singh Nijjar Jatt chaudhari of reading UK(das had some comrades from the same towen while bbeing with British Army in Surrey). So this is just cut and paste from website of Nijjar Baba Ji. If if it is true that what Das write by imagination then das could have said that das has converted Lord Jesus into Panth Khalsa and Baba Issa Singh Ji Nazrathwale.But imagination is false.body and actions of holy man are false but truth is eternal.Sat Sri Akal. There is no need to feel bad of Hindus as poster is not hindu and Das requests Balbeer Singh Ji to have a gosti(exchange of views about sprituality and mysticim by Gnositc churches Baba Nijjer). We can not affrod to miss the valuable views of Baba Ji with regard to his gnostic church views. Amen.Hallelujah.

Gurfateh Das is givng some links below. Das knows that a few AKJ people now what all is three. Das only wants to requests Missioanieris brother to read sectionon Brahm Vidya and without doubt or sense of test(faith is prerquesite for it). Try to bring the same in thier life at least for a trial(not test). And if some one can translate for those who do not know Gurmukhi and Punjabi. this is key to slavation as per way of Taksal.But this maym not be the only way.But as it is online we cam make use of it. http://gurparsad.gursikhijeevan.com/bhram.php

Gurfateh various orders or Samprdayas of Gurmat(including AKJ also) are made by Akal. Till we have one God Akal even if we may have differant types of Codes yet we are breathren. Forgive das for writng anything wrong.

Gurfateh Dear Troubled ji, Prove your point by any of our three Holy books. Ie Sikhi is bounded by baptism ie Akal is incapable to make us Sikh without Baptism. Das is not anti Baptism but anti to antagonism for non baptised Sikhs.Such person may not be good in some aspects but still can be better in other aspects of Sikhi.

Gurfateh Well Japu Ji sahib is word of God which was delvered via First Master,It has word Sikh as Mat vich Ratan Jawahar Manik jo ik Gur Ki Sikh Suni (mind is full of jewels(enlightenment) if Sikh goes by Guru's command) Mane Tare Taare Gur Sikh.. (by faith Sikh is salvaged by Guru) forgive das for mistakes in transforming the verse from Gurmukhi to Roman,and pronuciations and ommisisons and commisions not as per clear way to speak Gurbani and mistakes in tranlations.

Gurfateh Being Sikh is not everyones cake so let him cut his hair if Akal does not wants it. Main problem her is being purit of Guru Granth Sahib and not abiding with Dasham Granth and Sarbloh Granth(both tells us to keep Hairs). Rom is hair of Body and holes are called romchidras. Tell him that God us Sikhs is not in control of any one.But controls us. That God can not be emresed by our deeds. When that God wants us to salvage while we are alive,We are made to elminate our Ego and surrender to That God. Not interefereing with apearance given to us by Akal makes us not to shave.When Akal brings us to Sickness and we are unable to sing glory of Akal and to retain our origeonal shape we may let there be some hair be discarded but be replaced by new once we are OK. Those who want to imress by deeds and shaving hairs see Arihantdev Avtar in sridasam.org. And see some more below from Part 149 of Guru Granth Sahib Ji. ਸਲੋਕੁ ਮਃ ੧ ॥ सलोकु मः १ ॥ salok mehlaa 1. Shalok, First Mehl: ਸਿਰੁ ਖੋਹਾਇ ਪੀਅਹਿ ਮਲਵਾਣੀ ਜੂਠਾ ਮੰਗਿ ਮੰਗਿ ਖਾਹੀ ॥ सिरु खोहाइ पीअहि मलवाणी जूठा मंगि मंगि खाही ॥ sir khohaa-ay pee-ah malvaanee joothaa mang mang khaahee. They pluck the hair out of their heads, and drink in filthy water; they beg endlessly and eat the garbage which others have thrown away. (this may means that shaving head is like that as all jain monks do such act of shaving head to reduce sins). ਫੋਲਿ ਫਦੀਹਤਿ ਮੁਹਿ ਲੈਨਿ ਭੜਾਸਾ ਪਾਣੀ ਦੇਖਿ ਸਗਾਹੀ ॥ फोलि फदीहति मुहि लैनि भड़ासा पाणी देखि सगाही ॥ fol fadeehat muhi lain bharhaasaa paanee daykh sagaahee. They spread manure, they suck in rotting smells, and they are afraid of clean water. ਭੇਡਾ ਵਾਗੀ ਸਿਰੁ ਖੋਹਾਇਨਿ ਭਰੀਅਨਿ ਹਥ ਸੁਆਹੀ ॥ भेडा वागी सिरु खोहाइनि भरीअनि हथ सुआही ॥ bhaydaa vaagee sir khohaa-in bharee-an hath su-aahee. Their hands are smeared with ashes, and the hair on their heads is plucked out-they are like sheep! ਮਾਊ ਪੀਊ ਕਿਰਤੁ ਗਵਾਇਨਿ ਟਬਰ ਰੋਵਨਿ ਧਾਹੀ ॥ माऊ पीऊ किरतु गवाइनि टबर रोवनि धाही ॥ maa-oo pee-oo kirat gavaa-in tabar rovan Dhaahee. They have renounced the lifestyle of their mothers and fathers, and their families and relatives cry out in distress. ਓਨਾ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਨ ਪਤਲਿ ਕਿਰਿਆ ਨ ਦੀਵਾ ਮੁਏ ਕਿਥਾਊ ਪਾਹੀ ॥ ओना पिंडु न पतलि किरिआ न दीवा मुए किथाऊ पाही ॥ onaa pind na patal kiri-aa na deevaa mu-ay kithaa-oo paahee. No one offers the rice dishes at their last rites, and no one lights the lamps for them. After their death, where will they be sent? ਅਠਸਠਿ ਤੀਰਥ ਦੇਨਿ ਨ ਢੋਈ ਬ੍ਰਹਮਣ ਅੰਨੁ ਨ ਖਾਹੀ ॥ अठसठि तीरथ देनि न ढोई ब्रहमण अंनु न खाही ॥ athsath tirath dayn na dho-ee barahman ann na khaahee. The sixty-eight sacred shrines of pilgrimage give them no place of protection, and no Brahmin will eat their food. ਸਦਾ ਕੁਚੀਲ ਰਹਹਿ ਦਿਨੁ ਰਾਤੀ ਮਥੈ ਟਿਕੇ ਨਾਹੀ ॥ सदा कुचील रहहि दिनु राती मथै टिके नाही ॥ sadaa kucheel raheh din raatee mathai tikay naahee. They remain polluted forever, day and night; they do not apply the ceremonial tilak mark to their foreheads. ਝੁੰਡੀ ਪਾਇ ਬਹਨਿ ਨਿਤਿ ਮਰਣੈ ਦੜਿ ਦੀਬਾਣਿ ਨ ਜਾਹੀ ॥ झुंडी पाइ बहनि निति मरणै दड़ि दीबाणि न जाही ॥ jhundee paa-ay bahan nit marnai darh deebaan na jaahee. They sit together in silence, as if in mourning; they do not go to the Lord's Court. ਲਕੀ ਕਾਸੇ ਹਥੀ ਫੁੰਮਣ ਅਗੋ ਪਿਛੀ ਜਾਹੀ ॥ लकी कासे हथी फुमण अगो पिछी जाही ॥ lakee kaasay hathee fumman ago pichhee jaahee. With their begging bowls hanging from their waists, and their fly-brushes in their hands, they walk along in single file. ਨਾ ਓਇ ਜੋਗੀ ਨਾ ਓਇ ਜੰਗਮ ਨਾ ਓਇ ਕਾਜੀ ਮੁੰਲਾ ॥ ना ओइ जोगी ना ओइ जंगम ना ओइ काजी मुंला ॥ naa o-ay jogee naa o-ay jangam naa o-ay kaajee muNlaa. They are not Yogis, and they are not Jangams, followers of Shiva. They are not Qazis or Mullahs. ਦਯਿ ਵਿਗੋਏ ਫਿਰਹਿ ਵਿਗੁਤੇ ਫਿਟਾ ਵਤੈ ਗਲਾ ॥ दयि विगोए फिरहि विगुते फिटा वतै गला ॥ da-yi vigo-ay fireh vigutay fitaa vatai galaa. Ruined by the Merciful Lord, they wander around in disgrace, and their entire troop is contaminated. ਜੀਆ ਮਾਰਿ ਜੀਵਾਲੇ ਸੋਈ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਕੋਈ ਰਖੈ ॥ जीआ मारि जीवाले सोई अवरु न कोई रखै ॥ jee-aa maar jeevaalay so-ee avar na ko-ee rakhai. The Lord alone kills and restores to life; no one else can protect anyone from Him. ਦਾਨਹੁ ਤੈ ਇਸਨਾਨਹੁ ਵੰਜੇ ਭਸੁ ਪਈ ਸਿਰਿ ਖੁਥੈ ॥ दानहु तै इसनानहु वंजे भसु पई सिरि खुथै ॥ daanhu tai isnaanhu vanjay bhas pa-ee sir khuthai. They go without giving alms or any cleansing baths; their shaven heads become covered with dust. ਪਾਣੀ ਵਿਚਹੁ ਰਤਨ ਉਪੰਨੇ ਮੇਰੁ ਕੀਆ ਮਾਧਾਣੀ ॥ पाणी विचहु रतन उपंने मेरु कीआ माधाणी ॥ paanee vichahu ratan upannay mayr kee-aa maaDhaanee. The jewel emerged from the water, when the mountain of gold was used to churn it. ਅਠਸਠਿ ਤੀਰਥ ਦੇਵੀ ਥਾਪੇ ਪੁਰਬੀ ਲਗੈ ਬਾਣੀ ॥ अठसठि तीरथ देवी थापे पुरबी लगै बाणी ॥ athsath tirath dayvee thaapay purbee lagai banee. The gods established the sixty-eight sacred shrines of pilgrimage, where the festivals are celebrated and hymns are chanted. ਨਾਇ ਨਿਵਾਜਾ ਨਾਤੈ ਪੂਜਾ ਨਾਵਨਿ ਸਦਾ ਸੁਜਾਣੀ ॥ नाइ निवाजा नातै पूजा नावनि सदा सुजाणी ॥ naa-ay nivaajaa naatai poojaa naavan sadaa sujaanee. After bathing, the Muslims recite their prayers, and after bathing, the Hindus perform their worship services. The wise always take cleansing baths. ਮੁਇਆ ਜੀਵਦਿਆ ਗਤਿ ਹੋਵੈ ਜਾਂ ਸਿਰਿ ਪਾਈਐ ਪਾਣੀ ॥ मुइआ जीवदिआ गति होवै जां सिरि पाईऐ पाणी ॥ mu-i-aa jeevdi-aa gat hovai jaaN sir paa-ee-ai paanee. At the time of death, and at the time of birth, they are purified, when water is poured on their heads. ਨਾਨਕ ਸਿਰਖੁਥੇ ਸੈਤਾਨੀ ਏਨਾ ਗਲ ਨ ਭਾਣੀ ॥ नानक सिरखुथे सैतानी एना गल न भाणी ॥ naanak sirkhutay saitaanee aynaa gal na bhaanee. O Nanak, the shaven-headed ones are devils. They are not pleased to hear these words. ਵੁਠੈ ਹੋਇਐ ਹੋਇ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ ਜੀਆ ਜੁਗਤਿ ਸਮਾਣੀ ॥ वुठै होइऐ होइ बिलावलु जीआ जुगति समाणी ॥ vuthai ho-i-ai ho-ay bilaaval jee-aa jugat samaanee. When it rains, there is happiness. Water is the key to all life. ਵੁਠੈ ਅੰਨੁ ਕਮਾਦੁ ਕਪਾਹਾ ਸਭਸੈ ਪੜਦਾ ਹੋਵੈ ॥ वुठै अंनु कमादु कपाहा सभसै पड़दा होवै ॥ vuthai ann kamaad kapaahaa sabhsai parh-daa hovai. When it rains, the corn grows, and the sugar cane, and the cotton, which provides clothing for all. ਵੁਠੈ ਘਾਹੁ ਚਰਹਿ ਨਿਤਿ ਸੁਰਹੀ ਸਾ ਧਨ ਦਹੀ ਵਿਲੋਵੈ ॥ वुठै घाहु चरहि निति सुरही सा धन दही विलोवै ॥ vuthai ghaahu chareh nit surhee saa Dhan dahee vilovai. When it rains, the cows always have grass to graze upon, and housewives can churn the milk into butter. ਤਿਤੁ ਘਿਇ ਹੋਮ ਜਗ ਸਦ ਪੂਜਾ ਪਇਐ ਕਾਰਜੁ ਸੋਹੈ ॥ तितु घिइ होम जग सद पूजा पइऐ कारजु सोहै ॥ tit ghi-ay hom jag sad poojaa pa-i-ai kaaraj sohai. With that ghee, sacred feasts and worship services are performed; all these efforts are blessed. ਗੁਰੂ ਸਮੁੰਦੁ ਨਦੀ ਸਭਿ ਸਿਖੀ ਨਾਤੈ ਜਿਤੁ ਵਡਿਆਈ ॥ गुरू समुंदु नदी सभि सिखी नातै जितु वडिआई ॥ guroo samund nadee sabh sikhee naatai jit vadi-aa-ee. The Guru is the ocean, and all His Teachings are the river. Bathing within it, glorious greatness is obtained. ਨਾਨਕ ਜੇ ਸਿਰਖੁਥੇ ਨਾਵਨਿ ਨਾਹੀ ਤਾ ਸਤ ਚਟੇ ਸਿਰਿ ਛਾਈ ॥੧॥ नानक जे सिरखुथे नावनि नाही ता सत चटे सिरि छाई ॥१॥ naanak jay sirkhutay naavan naahee taa sat chatay sir chhaa-ee. ||1|| O Nanak, if the shaven-headed ones do not bathe, then seven handfuls of ashes are upon their heads. ||1||

Gurfateh Present our creed needs many a dedicated missionaries. But often many of them are tied with logic and oftenm doubt Gurbani like Raagmala or Dasham Granth. Thier writings often break the faith of Sikh then making him/her a more devotee. Do we have any such missioanries who preach whole Gurbani incluidng mentiuoned above and increse our faith also. If yes then where ? And if no then when are we going to have them? Das can request Sant Samajis,Inteelllectuals like Brother Amritpal singh Ji or Nihungs etc. or Taksal to join hand and do something. Das know that al are doing but do we have way to combine the effort.

Gurfateh Das visited the Kirtan which was to be held at Kalka Ji Temple of Delhi on 3.1.06. Das will try to be as objectuve as he could to write the report and it is u to Sangat that what should be they think. Das while visiting Bangla Sahib got a pamhelts in which name of Seva Panthi mahapurush of Tikana Sahib and Granthi of Bangla Sahib was also mentioned to be taking Part. That thng had heading about Kirtan to save hindu Dharma. Das thinks that better termed would have been Sanatan Dharma. Anyway when das reached at venue it was writtan that for the Avtar of defender of Hinduism. In venues of Tent.Das did not find Prakash of Guru Granth Sahib JI. Mahant of Temple who organised itwith his men was trying to socilised with all and imress others by his servece. There two Biharis who entered the Tent without covering the head and Hindu there objeted this to them and they left the place. Men or volunteers of Temple were very deciplined.And were realy imressed by Gurbani. Das knows that in Prbha Fersi with out Prakash of Guru Darbar we can have Kirtan. But here there was problem large potrait of Tenth Master was kept and people Hindus and Turbanned Hindus even soe Ragis were putiing mony to picutre and doin Mattha Tekna or toucing head to table on which Pothoo was kept. While Kirtanis were singing from Vachitar Natak that those who cal me(Guru) God will go to hell. Some Pahilwans(wrster) also came in were easy and informalmanner and sat just like that. Das saw a Hindu lady of the age of his mother objecting the absense of Guru Granth Sahib.Das wanted to salute her. Anyway verse of Tilalk Janj protectoin were wriitan at large and host annuicer many times qooted Deh Shiva Var vMohe... That Hindu person did repeated glory of Devi Mata and Mahant also said Ya Devi Sarv Bhooteshu,Shive Sarvart Sadhike,Namstat Se Namastate NomoNammah. thne many hindu Sadhus came in.Mahant Ji got let pople touch his feet and of Sadhus also. Then BJP MP Mr Vijay Kumar Malhotra with other political people came some could be Akalis also. Das saw Bani of Uggradanti writtan on entrance with one vers ending with Jage Dharam hindon Sagal Dund Bhaje and next line from far offf lace about Gau Ghat Ka Dhok Jagat Te Mitaon. It was presented as combined verse. Sadhan TV which is more Hindu TV was relying it. then tehre werre Pro Congree Akalis who were noting dowen the acts of ro BJP ones. Das by that times ge the chance to ask one of the organiser that why did not Prakash of Guru is done. He aid that local DSGPC has not allowed the Prakash and Seva Panthis will also not be coming. He said that Gurudwara Banada Singh Bahdur People wanted bring Darbar Sahib defying dsgpc but Mahant did not want to bring in fight with dsgpc. Das told them that Budhadal unit of Delhi could have helped them(thier Gurudwara is at Azadpur with name Rab Da Kutta). that Sikh was raising Mahants attemt to unit Sikh and Hindu by this function. Some people wanted to clap there it was revented as er Sikh decorum. Das did noted that Sants from Kurukshetra came,Baba Gurcharan Singh Ji Karseva Wale and Sant from Jawandi Kala Taksal. Well das thaught that had BJP poeople not coming and congres pople would have come then dsgpc would have allowed the Prakash of Guru Ji. Misioaries say that budhism was removed by brahims making idols of Budha in hindu temlples and slowly it was absorbed. They opposeed Resected KC Sudershan Ji oh sooory what RSS says Sudershan Singh Chauahns cooment to install Guru Granth Sahib Ji in Temple as similar ploy. But how could they prevent hindus from keeping pictures of Guru or say idol of Gurus in thier temples. Das gives a view that instead of let Hindu Mahant do everything himslef some learned Sikh could have guided him and instead of picture Guru Granth Sahib Ji could have been installed. What das wants to make is that instead of let Mahant carries out his hindu like preaching Sikhs should have totaly overtaken the event. But they did not.Say Mahant was to make his own agenda then no Sikh should have coporated. as per SGPC Maryada on other's faith related ocaision it is OK to use it for preaching.Das did gave some inforamtion of Panth in hindu Temple to hindus. But here it seems to be opposite thing. We missed the chance to preach Panth to Hindus inspite of getting chance to reach in thier own temple the Gurmat. The Sants from Punajab or Haryana might have come as sgpc is pro BJP. Had Badal faction of Delhi ruled dsgc then Darbar Sahib could have come. lastly das find more fault with Sikhs who participated or banned the Prakash of Guru Granth Sahib Ji then local Mahant of Hindus. Tell local Sikhs themselves were doing idol worship of Guru then there is hardly any fault of Hindus. Das just wants to know what Sangat says? Who was wrong?or at all was there anything wrong?

Gurfateh Dhup,insense,Harmal,google,Aarbati etc. are not endemic to Hindus but in Semtic faiths also. So if Sikhs use it does not means that we are copying Hindus. Lastly there are better and more eco friendly then say chemcal fumigants of today.

Gurfateh Some like Gareb Dasis from sect of Kabeer Panthis claim that Kabeer was god's incarnation but this does not stop here. They say that Sikh Gurus worshied Kabeer and Gurbani is edisted and twisted to worship Wahiguru and worshiper of wahiguru will go to hell. (Baba Rampal of Sampla,said this on TV channnel and das heard it himslef.) They make similar absurd commments on Islam also. Like term Jihadan Kabeeran means big Jehaad while they say here Kabeer is Saint Kabeer living somewhere in heavan. in one Farsi verse of Guru Granth Sahib we have Haqqa Kabeer Kareem Tu ie True Big mercyfull are you. but they will say that God of Gurus was St. Kabeer.

Gurfateh Das was able to get the copy of Dasham Granth Darpan by Bhai Harbans Singh Ji.Yesterday. das is happy that on some things Das is able to find faults with Ambala Sahib which could be a new. Das any will meet Bhai Sahib as soon as possible and will try to write antidote to book oppsoing Dasham Granth by S. Gurbax Singh Ji Kala Afghana Ji also. Das would lie to put a an interesting thing here. The new edition of Ambala Sahib book has title Dasham Granth Darpan only while below in in brackets we have writtan (Dasham Granth Nirnai). As old book created good lot of turmoil so it is more an attempt to cheat the public. Like Lasher -E- Tayyaba may use other names to cheat aouthrits like Marqaz -e- Tayyaba or Jamatuddava. In both case methodlogy is same.