Trimandeep Singh

22 hours ago, sevak said:

Is Baba Daya Singh- Father of Baba Avtar Singh Tarna Dal? They have var from 6th Nanak. All their kul will be brahmgyanis.

I have already been in this confusion. Sursingh waale Mahapurakh is the descendant of Baba Bidhi Chand Ji or Sri Guru Hargobind Sahib Ji? Also, any source that backs this point that all their kul will be Brahmgyanis?

Don't want to trigger another topic or debate but I have seen Bhai Charanjeet Singh Ji (son of Baba Avtaar Singh Ji I guess) get matha-tekked by Farladhari Buzurg Nihang Singhs. Don't know the reason behind this but I just found this wrong (according to my mat).

Bhul chuk maaf

Trimandeep Singh 

I don't remember exactly, but I guess it was Damdami Beer in which 'Mahalla 10' was written as a Mangal for the last saloks of Salok Mahalla 9 we read today. Most scholars and gursikhs don't consider it the writing of Dasvein Patshaah though. I believe same is the case with this.

Trimandeep Singh

Veerji aren't we supposed to take only cold showers? Gurbani knows much better than Science about what is good for us.

I don't know about the first point, but cold water is better than hot water for all other 9 benefits mentioned.

Trimandeep Singh 

On 3/29/2020 at 7:14 PM, Ragmaala said:

Thats the reason I started sehaj path of Dasam bani so I can cover all banis atleast once every 4-6 months.   

Bhai sahib, you have Sri Dasam Granth sahib prakash at your place?

Vaheguru Ji ka Khalsa 

Vaheguru Ji ki Fateh!

On 8/6/2021 at 11:39 AM, AnxiousMind said:

Everyone get sorrows, tough patches and sadness in their life and they are responsible for it.. praying to God can give someone a temporary motivation but it can not help you otherwise. I have been praying and then trying practically to sort some things but every time i come out as a failure. 

Hey brother, we don't know how much bani you have read and how many times you have visited a Gurudwara and the sacrifices you have made to please Guru sahib. I am just assuming that you came into Sikhi recently and hence have these trust issues, which is absolutely normal. 

I am not being rude but most probably, you are being ungrateful, what we call Akirtkanh. 

On 8/6/2021 at 11:39 AM, AnxiousMind said:

Everyone get sorrows, tough patches and sadness in their life and they are responsible for it.. praying to God can give someone a temporary motivation but it can not help you otherwise. I have been praying and then trying practically to sort some things but every time i come out as a failure. 

Maybe you have such bad previous karams that you are facing a dukh since long. Even a gursikh faces tough times, but because they firmly believe in Guru sahib, they read more bani and tend to remain in chardikala.

Did you just do an ardaas or read some bani too? The reasons why praying may not have given you expected results can be-

1. You didn't have the required faith when doing ardaas.

2. You expected huge results with less efforts.

3. Not reading bani/doing ardaas with concentration 

On 8/6/2021 at 11:39 AM, AnxiousMind said:

If God is responsible for everything then how humans are responsible for bad karma ? It's a hypocrisy- if something good happens.. everyone say God gave his kirpa and for sadness and failures, they say it's bad karma that the human has. 

Yes, God is responsible for everything but he's not responsible for your own karams. The reason why we commit bad karams is Maya and the punishments that we receive are decided according to the Karma System. Vaheguru is responsible for activating Maaya on earth and for creating the Karma system, and not your karams. Try to understand this.

On 8/6/2021 at 11:39 AM, AnxiousMind said:

It's a hypocrisy- if something good happens.. everyone say God gave his kirpa and for sadness and failures, they say it's bad karma that the human has. 

Well it's not hypocrisy but just the truth. To explain this, you would have to understand the working of Karma System (as in Gurmat). I would write a famous short story to just give you some understanding.

Story starts*

Once there was a shardhaalu (devotee) of Guru Nanak Dev Ji. He had firm belief in him while his friend, who was a thief was pretty much a stranger to this kind of stuff. The thief friend always used to mock him that even though he was a thief, he was still living a happier and comfortable life than the devotee's. One day, the devotee asked his thief friend to come along him and pay a visit to Guru Nanak Dev Ji. On the way, the thief found a gold coin while the devotee got his foot hurt by a sharp object. The thief again laughed at him but the devotee remained quiet and confidently told him that Guru Nanak Dev Ji will give the answer why this happened. When they reached, they asked Guru sahib to solve their shanka (doubt). Dhan Guru Nanak Dev Ji told them that because of the thief's good previous life karams, he would have found a pot full of gold coins but he got just one coin because he's a sinner. On the other hand, the devotee had his death (hanging) written today but because of his shardha in Vaheguru, the pain he had to go through was cut by a large extent, from phaansi to just a foot injury.

Story ends*

You can't blame guru sahib for your sufferings but if you read bani and apply principles of Sikhi, then he can interfere and reduce the pain/punishment.

Here's a lecture on Gurmat Karam Philosophy. If you want to learn more about how karams work and how your punishments get reduced or minimised by reading bani, watch this. And it's really a must watch! One of my favs (Bhai Kulbir Singh Toronto)

Trimandeep Singh 

1 hour ago, paapiman said:

@dalsingh101 - Other thing bro, aren't many Sikhs (especially Amritdharis) having problems in finding a suitable partner nowadays? I know of at least three people (2 females and one male), who are struggling to find a partner for marriage. How is the situation in the UK?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

Maybe this problem is increasing because sikhs and their families try to look for a suitable partner themselves rather than taking the help of senior gursikhs they know.

Amritdhari Sikhs who don't have spiritually inclined families should especially take the help of a senior gursikh only, preferably such a gursikh who is rehitvaan and goes into sangat regularly.

Trimandeep Singh 

4 hours ago, paapiman said:

Please do try to find out, where they are getting this rule from.

I probably read this in a blog. Bhai Sahib Jagtar Singh Ji (Late Jathedar of Gurmat Bibek Jatha) used to say that whenever one visits a gurudwara, a Sikh should make sure that his/her shastars are visible so that Guru sahib can see them.

And here's my opinion. I think a Sikh shouldn't hide his kirpan deliberately behind his/her chola or shirt to make sure that he stands out in the crowd.

1 hour ago, dalsingh101 said:

I think also, there are times to hide your weapons until the right time, like when Sukha and Mehtab Singh went to see Massa Ranghar

I think it would be acceptable in these situations.

6 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:

Do you have any idea of what these senior gursikhs make of the panj hathiar hukams? 

Never read or heard their comments on these. A little what I know is that puratan gursikhs of AKJ keep the dori shastars in their base keski with the kangha like Nihang Singhs.

4 hours ago, paapiman said:

Please do try to find out, where they are getting this rule from.

I am not saying it's some kind of Rehat or a rule...i just wrote the views of puratan gursikhs (particularly AKJ and most probably Taksaal too has the same view)

1 hour ago, GurjantGnostic said:

One it's too hard to draw quickly and two it does not represent the Khalsa publically. 

Second one is valid and perhaps maybe the first point makes a Sikh kinda less tyar bar tyar.

Rest guru sahib knows well 

Trimandeep Singh 

16 hours ago, paapiman said:

Mata jee was a Christian Brahamgyani.

Did she worship Vaheguru Ji or Jesus or any other prophet? Don't have much time today to see the whole video...will see tomorrow.

Trimandeep Singh 

12 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Lol. Whelp. That's for me. 

Great post in entirety. Going to bookmark it. 

Watch this whole video! Bhai sahib had kept it simple and humorous.

This Kirtan is a must listen. This is a short clip from the Har Har Naam Samagam at Malaysia.

Whenever I feel sleepy, I just listen to it and all sleep goes away in a minute.

My favorite part is when the gursikh wearing baana (Bhai Gurpreet Singh) recites the Karninaama.

Dhan Dasam Patshah Di Baani.

Trimandeep Singh 

14 minutes ago, paapiman said:

They should also remove any references to Sampat Paath. It should be left to the discretion of the Gurudwara or a Jathebandi to do them or not.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

Does it say anything against Sampat Paths?

2 minutes ago, paapiman said:

It is still not that hard to come up with a Basic Panthic Rehat Maryada. The document can be worded in such a way, so as to accommodate almost all Jathebandis.

For examples,

• Bhog of Sri Akhand Paath can be done at Salok M5 or Sri Raagmala Saab.
• Kesh or Keski is a Kakkar.
• 4 H's (the ones mentioned above) apply to all Baptized Sikhs.
• Don't mention anything about Dhoop, Jot, Coconut, etc. Just say that the place and the atmosphere, where Sri Akhand Paath is being done, should be extremely clean.
• Bhog or Parvaan word can be used.
• Bhog may be done for food.
• Respect of Shastars (Weapons) is important.
• So on....

 

Bhul chuk maaf

Almost everything you pointed out is mentioned in the Panthic Rehat Maryada except second and fourth point. And there's no mention in it whether bhog can be done to other eatables except Karah Prashad. (This should be cleared)

Trimandeep Singh 

10 hours ago, paapiman said:

Are you 100% sure that these are false allegations? These are very serious allegations.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

Bhai Saab 100% sure! And just for your information, he's also a Sarbloh Bibeki. I am sure he can never do this since his parents are also amritdhari and those people who commit such sins can't hide their real side for long, especially from their parents.

The actions for which he has been accused may be true but he may have committed them long back when he didn't have any sangat. I don't know if it is actually the truth. But even if it was, at least now, he's a pure sarblohi rehitvaan gursikh and same is the case with Bhai Navreet Singh Ji.

The Farladhari Nihangs of Tarna Dal Khayala often stay at his (Bhai Navreet Singh) home when they come to Canada to do parchaar.

Trimandeep Singh 

9 hours ago, paapiman said:

The idea behind having a Panthic Rehat Maryada is great. It makes sense to have one basic Rehat Maryada, which will apply to all Baptized Sikhs.

But unfortunately there are disputes between jathebandis and it is liable to happen because Gurbani is beyond human intellect and we may interpret things differently...eg: whether to take any hukam or revelation as metaphorical or literal.

I think the current Rehat Maryada is still better. If we come up with a uniform Rehat for all khalsa Panth, then most likely people will reject it with reasons like it (The Rehat Maryada) is biased towards this particular jathebandi.

After all, it's Kalyug. Everything under Guru Sahib's hukam.

Trimandeep Singh 

22 hours ago, paapiman said:

Manvir Singh's name is also on the list in the link above

It's most probably false or a misunderstanding. Bhai Manvir Singh Ji started doing Sewa of Panth long back. He works in a prison where he tries to reform the prisoners, particularly Sikh or Punjabi prisoners. He has told many stories about the transformation of prisoners in his lectures, that how they changed after they started doing Sri Rehraas Sahib everyday. He usually gives English translations of books of Bhai Raghbir Singh Ji Bir and Bhai sahib Randhir Singh Ji to the prisoners.

Also, Bhai Manvir Singh Ji has close contact with Singhs of Gurmat Bibek. If he had been accused of doing this Paap, then they would have taken strict action against him as you already know how serious they are related to these kind of matters. And he is still invited to speak at Khalsa Camps where renowned parcharaks of even Damdami Taksaal voluntarily come. 

I had a good laugh though. The author is quite creative with his story making skills.

It's all fake propaganda against him. Just ignore these articles. 

Trimandeep Singh 

The Panthic Maryada is incomplete and has been designed in such a way that it doesn't disturb the peace and cooperation between the panthic jathebandis. So it's not much detailed and is silent on rehats mentioned in puratan Rehatnamey.

And I already told you that Bhai Manvir Singh Ji is a very knowledgeable and khoji gursikh so we can trust him. Anyways, I don't have a problem if you consider it a Paap and not a bajjar Paap.

Trimandeep Singh 

1 hour ago, paapiman said:

Dyeing and coloring hair is not a Bajjar Kurehat. It is a Kurehat.

I have probably heard this in Bhai Manvir Singh Ji's lectures. He said that cutting hairs is not the only bajjar qurehit related to Kesh but it is included in the Bajjar qurehit- 'Kesaan Di Beadbi Nahi Karni' (Don't disrespect your hairs)

This includes cutting hairs, dyeing/colouring them, waxing, applying chemical products deliberately like fixers and beard sprays, throwing kes in the dustbin etc.

He has done research on Khalsa Rehat Maryada for nearly a decade now. He has taken help and advice from gianis and Mahapurakhs of various jathebandis too so he's pretty much reliable in my opinion.

Trimandeep Singh 

1 hour ago, GurjantGnostic said:

I've seen that. It's kinda cool and I get why people do it, buuuuuut...every time you braid you rip out hairs. 

If the hairs get damaged/removed while tying beard then surely it's a bajjar qurehit just like dyeing/colouring hairs.

Guru sahib bibek budhi bakshan 

Trimandeep Singh 

On 7/27/2021 at 5:59 PM, paapiman said:

According to Bhai Daya Singh Rehatnama:

• Singhs are suppose to keep a dagger on their heads.
• Singhs are suppose to take a bath with milk, yoghurt and butter milk

I have never heard or read about these rehats though. Anyways, thank you for posting...i will start my research on puratan Rehat Maryada again.

I wanted to get a book of Bhai Manvir Singh UK on Authentic Rehat Maryada which can be purchased from Khalsa Foundation Store but they don't export it. But they can deliver in Canada.

Bhaisaab, if you want to research more about Rehat Maryada...then do get that book and don't forget to share some valuable information from it : )

Trimandeep Singh