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On 7/26/2022 at 3:43 PM, GurjantGnostic said:
The exact words of the threat to kill 5000
No bro it was just an impounded minibus (no copies of Maharaj in the minibus and that would have been further Beadbi by Chowk Mehta Dera).
The bottom line is nobody on the planet has the right to threaten to kill 5,000 African Americans (for example) on account of an impounded vehicle.
JSB: I want to ask those of you who say: "He says wrong things. He is hot-tempered."
It was after all this that I said: "If our bus is not returned by five o’clock, I shall kill five thousand Hindus in one hour."
Why did I use the word "Hindu"? Many (people) say the word "Hindu" coming from the lips of a Sant does not sound nice.
When did I give a certificate that I am a Sant? To whom did I give in writing that I am a Sant? I am Jarnail Singh
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11 hours ago, mahanpaapi said:
or what He said?
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Whilst it is great that if anyone from whatever background becomes Sikh and we welcome them into Panth.
The fact remains that the likely primary overwhelming source of new Sikhs outside Punjab are the so-called Dalits and poor Indians. British Sikh Council (formerly known as the Scottish Sikh Council) are doing a good job supporting Sikligar Sikhs too it must be said but collectively we definitely cannot ignore non-Punjabi's given that 90% of Punjabi's could care less about Sikhi after 500 plus years.
Whilst there are some economically distressed Jaats from Haryana that were demanding reservation who are against the BJP there are also a greater number of wealthy Jaats who have been intimately connected to anti-Sikh power in Delhi for a long time like Sajjan Kumar and the billionaire types that owns DLF Land that built Gurgaon/Gurugram etc and Indian Army chiefs like General Malik and General Dalbir Singh Suhag so there is very low likelihood of these wealthier Jaats suddenly becoming Sikh when they are so closely connected with the epicentre of power in the country (ie the status quo and Hindutva suits them just fine).
However, the communities we need to absolutely focus are the historical communities that held Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj dear before Nehru became Prime Minister (but who have been systematically estranged from the Panth over the last 75years via financial pressure).
These erstwhile sehajdhari Nanakpanthi Sikhs number 100million! (These lost "Rangrete" are "Guru ke Bete")
This includes all those tens of millions in India of ancestry associated with leatherworking professions like Dhan Dhan Baba Ravidas Ji Maharaj, all those tens of millions of non-Punjabi Bhangi's who have been estranged from the Panth from similar backgrounds to Shaheed Bhai Jiwan Singh Ji and all those tens of millions of erstwhile Sikhs of Kabirpanthi background that revere Dhan Dhan Baba Kabir Ji Maharaj, Sanatani's, Vanjara's, Assam Sikhs to name a few and many indigenous tribes where Dhan Dhan Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj had done parchaar.
Beyond that there are 250million so-called Dalits in India and 1,000million poor people in India who could tomorrow become sehajdhari Sikhs if we merely explain the basics of why Sikhi is the only truth that can uplift humanity.
However, instead of us doing the obvious outside in Punjab the enemies of the Panth are determined to detach all Sikhs of Ravidasi and Mazhabi ancestries in Punjab away from the Sikh Panth and re-brand our people (present day Sikhs) into tomorrow's Hindu Dera Ballan and Hindu Balmiki Dera apartheid worshippers as that would leave the Sikh Panth as a minority in Majha and Malwa by the time of the next census in 2031. There should be no bigger priority for Panth than supporting our brothers and sisters in east Punjab from these background and ensuring that each pind in Punjab (and locality in the West) only has one single united casteless Gurdwara. Without ensuring that, the Panth cannot progress.
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1 hour ago, GurjantGnostic said:
Remember he said he'd kill 5000.
Bro we can't give one of our own a pass because they seem to look the part.
Sikhi and Gurmat are emphatic that we as Sikhs are not allowed to kill 5,000 innocents on account of one impounded vehicle!
It is that type of nonsensical rhetoric about killing 5,000 Hindu's in 1hour that eventually facilitated the Congress Genocide of Sikhs.
The real terrorist Indira Gandhi could not believe her luck when this speech was made as it was exactly what she wanted to hear!
As at a stroke it rallied the majority behind and allowed her to paint all Sikhs as demented madmen threatening innocent Hindu's.
If someone was to give a speech tomorrow that 5,000 innocent Americans will be killed in one hour if a vehicle belonging to a Jatha in the States is not released by the Transportation Department by 5pm then you can bet your bottom dollar that it would be used as justification by the corrupt powers that be to set up a Waco type situation against innocent Sikhs as collateral damage.
And in no way can Chowk Mehta Dera threats like the one below be falsely connected to Dhan Dhan Baba Deep Singh Ji.
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6 hours ago, paapiman said:
IMHO
This RSS and RAW mischaracterising Sikhs (via your incorrect percentages) as the most loyal lapdogs of the racist British Empire is readily disprovable.
If the maximum percentage of united Punjab (most Muslim) recruits in the British Indian Army was around half then your upper figure is totally impossible.
Given that Sikh numbers among united Punjab recruits fluctuated between 13.6% to 20% then it was physically impossible for Sikhs to be more than 10% of that united India-Pakistan British Empire Army. Bear in mind that Sikhs were less than 1% of the united Indian population in the 19th century and were only 1.5% of the total pre-partition population of united India and only one in seven Punjabi's was even Sikh in the 1940's.
It is obviously correct that Sikhs punch above our weight on most things such as langar provision, charitable sewa and I won't disagree with you that Sikhs are obviously over-represented in the current Indian Army and officer ranks as well as awards for bravery against invasions by Pakistan and China.
However, to parrot the same RSS and RAW agenda by inflating Sikh percentages prior to 1947 is nonsensical and harmful to the Sikh Panth given that provably at no point between 1849-1947 did more than 5% of economically less well off Sikhs enlist for the British for monetary reasons - and thus the the 95% silent majority of Sikhs oppressed by the racist British Empire cannot be falsely portrayed as lapdogs of the racist British Empire as your falsely inflated numbers seek to do.
After 1947 (but before 1984) Sikhs were indeed between 30-60% of the defenders in certain key defensive battles against Pakistan and China.
The total contribution of Sikhs in India's struggle for freedom is revealing: Out of 121 patriots hanged 93 were Sikhs.
Of the 2626 awarded life-imprisonment 2147 were Sikhs. Of the 1300 martyred in Jallianwala Bagh 799 were Sikhs
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On 7/25/2022 at 8:25 PM, paapiman said:
Khande da
Paji if 2+2 = 4 then it does not mean that if on another page it says 3+3 = 33 that the page(s) with 3+3 = 33 are mathematically correct.
What most Amritdhari GurSikhs oppose is Chapter 4 of Bachittar Natak and the translated Hindu erotica in Charitropakhiyan.
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4 hours ago, paapiman said:
The context has to be taken into account.
In the question I have asked you below, the context is that a vehicle has been impounded by Dixie Gurdwara:
If Justin Trudeau said he would kill 5,000 innocent Sikhs today within one hour if a Gurdwara did not release an impounded vehicle would you also be ok with that? (Do you condemn the threat or not?)
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7 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:
world leaders threaten nuclear annihlation and economic collapse daily these days over ultimately nothing.
Exactly bro Christian and Muslim and Hindu leaders are well known to not only threaten innocents with Genocide but actually carry it out!
However, Sikhi is a niara Panth and under no circumstances whatsoever are those who purport to be Sikhs allowed to threaten the murder of innocents!
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5 minutes ago, paapiman said:
Sant jee gave an explanation on why he made that comment later on.
Bhul chuk maaf
If Justin Trudeau said he would kill 5,000 innocent Sikhs today within one hour if Edmonton Gurdwara did not release an impounded vehicle would you also be ok with that?
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Apna Farz Sewa Society led by Pal Singh Kharoud deserve full maximum support.
If it wasn't for these Singhs rescuing many mistreated souls mostly from Muslim Gujjar Dera's in east Punjab but also former Punjab Police cats, this phenomena of depravity would never have been bought to the wider public's attention. As whereas these things are supported by Islam and Hinduism in their sacred texts we as Sikhs have to fight to eradicate the bane of slavery and labour exploitation and child expolitation and sexual trafficking from all societies in which we reside.
So Apna Farz Sewa Society Zindabad and Pal Singh Kharoud nu vi lambee ummar hoveh.
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Exactly @GurjantGnostic bro. Nothing wrong with Jhatka and shikar when there is no other food for isolated tribes to survive upon.
The problem is when food is plentiful in 2022 but animals are slaughtered purely for blood tilaks and to make Sikhi look like a joke to our Dravidian brethren.
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On 7/24/2022 at 9:39 AM, paapiman said:
Beer Ras,
Khande da Pahul and Amrit infuses Bir Ras of infinite quantities in of itself.
Ancient translated Hindu erotica in Charitropakhiyan is not needed to infuse Bir Ras into the Khalsa Panth.
A single Jaikaara of Bole So Nihal: Sat Sri Akaal has more Bir Ras!
Even 125,000 Charitropakhiyan Jaaps by the racist British Empire's Mahants and their prostitutes cannot give an ounce of Bir Ras to the Khalsa Panth.
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14 hours ago, paapiman said:
The First Charitar is recited at Sri Hajoor saab
If Hazur Sahib maryada is so important then why did the Mahants of Hazur Sahib consistently side with the British between 1849-1947?
Why did the controlling Hazur Sahib management side with Indira Gandhi and Santa Sin during the Congress Genocide of Sikhs?
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14 hours ago, paapiman said:
Rattan Singh jee Bhangu
Lineage has no meaning in Sikhi. The Khalsa Panth exemplifies this everyday. And that's why Chapter 4 of Bachittar Natak is condemned by so many Amritdhari's.
He wrote what he did in 1841 for the British and thus nothing should be treated as authentic as Gurbani from Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj
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On 7/24/2022 at 9:43 AM, paapiman said:
At one point in history of British India
The percentage went down after the Jallianwala Bagh massacre.
This blatant falsehood spread by RAW and RSS has long been comprehensively exposed as a malicious lie and deliberate denigration of Sikhs during the Congress Genocide of Sikhs.
Sikhs were 1.5% of the pre-partition population of India. And even out of the racist British Empire's forces drawn from Punjab, Muslims comprised the vast majority.
The population of united Punjab comprised around 10% of the pre-partition population of India.
And even at peak influence the other states of India (which comprised 90% of the population) still comprised over half of the racist British Empire's forces.
Thus if even 50% of the racist British Empire's forces were mostly drawn from Pakistani Punjab and Sikhs comprised between 13.6 to 20% of Punjabi drawn forces it is absolutely provably clear that Sikhs never constituted more than 10% of the racist British Empire's paid forces in India. And furthermore, among the Sikhs no more than 5% of the Sikh population at the time enlisted with the racist British Empire's forces at any point in time.
The total contribution of Sikhs in India's struggle for freedom is revealing: Out of 121 patriots hanged 93 were Sikhs.
Of the 2626 awarded life-imprisonment 2147 were Sikhs. Of the 1300 martyred in Jallianwala Bagh 799 were Sikhs
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13 hours ago, paapiman said:
Mata Bebe Nankee jee
This is not so much about splitting hairs about who was the first Skh in history out of Bhai Mardana Ji or Bebe Nanaki Ji and who spent more time with Dhan Dhan Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj but more so about the Pakistani Punjabi Muslims falsely claiming to be descendants of GurSikhs like Bhai Mardana Ji in order to financially exploit naive rich Sikhs from east Punjab and overseas.
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On 7/24/2022 at 9:23 AM, paapiman said:
Any evidence for that?
Are you aware of any other fake lineages within the Panth?
The evidence is staring us the Sikh Panth directly in the face Ji.
Up until 1977 they were known as Jatha Bhindran (Chowk Mehta) when Sanjay Gandhi & Zail Sin deliberately re-christened the Jatha to try discredit the Anandpur Sahib resolution calls.
There is no connection between Chowk Mehta Dera to Dhan Dhan Baba Deep Singh Ji and Takht Sri Damdama Sahib.
Ask yourself Ji what connection could Dhan Dhan Baba Deep Singh Ji have with the ideology espoused in the video below:
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On 5/9/2019 at 4:03 PM, Gabbarsingh said:
Just a bunch of liars after money and recognition. Avtar singh inherited everything that he has its common knowledge in dalpanth that baba santa singh used to openly call bidhichandiye prithichandiye saying they 'ate' all of the gurus golak money. They are insulting the blessings of mahapurakh baba sahib singh ji kaladhari by claiming to be around from the gurus time when it was budha dal who gave them their first nishan nagare and horses. Its a shame that these days so called 'sants' are so blinded by maya and ego that they 'forget' their origins.
Well said Singh. Fake lineages are nothing new.
Zail Sin and Sanjay Gandhi even concocted a new name and lineage for Chowk Mehta Dera and falsely attached to it Dhan Dhan Baba Deep Singh Ji in 1977.
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Ratan Singh Bhangu was writing almost 150 years after the events and for the British as I understand it prior to their annexation of Punjab.
The debunked Chapter 4 of BN or the translated ancient Hindu erotica "Triya Charitar"/CP stories have nothing to do with it whatsoever.
Besides it is not which authentic Gurbani is read during Amrit Sanchar but the principle of Sant-Sipahi, equality and being to ready to die for the protection of the weak and the oppressed which is of paramount importance to Amrit Sanchar.
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On 7/16/2022 at 4:36 AM, Cheryl ladd said:
Suprised that he survived this long.
All that you have said above is incorrect but given your anglo name presumably you are not Sikh but merely promoting a fake agenda here.
It is well known that the bombing in 1985 was done by RAW and hence there were no convictions in the case.
The bombing was a deliberate false flag operation by RAW for GOI (in which 30 Sikhs from Montreal alone died) let alone all the innocent victims.
Sikhi is in strict opposition to all terrorism against innocent victims and this false flag operation was falsely maligned on Sikhs to justify the Congress Genocide of Sikhs.
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Interesting how this rich Khatri Christian convert Ankur Narula and rich Jatt actress Sonam Bajwa are pushing Christianity with American & Canadian funding.
The tactic of promising people a Canadian visa if they convert to Christianity is simply genius when you analyse the mentality of some people in east Punjab.
Christian conversion epidemic in east Punjab : the conversion empire of Ankur Narula and its funding
In the Jalandhar district of Punjab, there is a small village called Khambra. A non-government organisation named Spiritual Welfare Society is headquartered in Khambra. The NGO is headed by one Varsha Rani and other important functionaries include Balvir Kaur and Piara.
About Spiritual Welfare society
The NGO is registered with Foreign Contribution Regulation Act and received Rs. 17076206.07 as contribution from outside Bharat in 2017-18. In 2018-19, the total foreign contribution it received was Rs. 28427339.00. So in a period of two years, it received approximately Rs. 4.5 crores from outside Bharat. The figures for 2019-20 are not yet available, but are again likely to be in crores.
If you peruse the FCRA returns, you will find that a majority of the donors are Punjabis, some with Christian names and others with typical Punjabi names. In 2017-18, there were 253 such donors who donated above Rs. 20000. In 2018-19, the number increased to 506 i.e. exactly the double. There is nothing strange in overseas Punjabis funding an NGO in Jalandhar. In fact, most Punjabis consider sewa as the essence of religion. Surely, it must be doing some great work!
Search the name of the NGO on Google and you will not find much about the society. For an NGO receiving crores in foreign donation and probably much more in local donations, it has negligible footprint on the internet. There is a single Youtube video showing that it distributed 50 sewing machines and some rations to poor women. The video tells that it did the same in association with Khambra Church and Rashtriya Masihi Sangh. Nothing else is known about the activities of the NGO.
Ankur Narula’s church : where the money of this NGO is used
The end purpose of money received through donation, as mentioned in the FCRA form is educational, social and religious. The return form for 2017-18 shows that the NGO created assets worth approximately Rs. 1.4 crores. The return form for 2018-19 shows that Rs. 1.67 crores of foreign money was utilized for educational purposes, about Rs. 53 lakhs for religious purposes and rest Rs. 62 lakhs for social purposes. This much amount of money spent should show results somewhere.
We might be able to solve this mystery if we dig a bit about its key functionaries, i.e. Varsha Rani, Balvir Kaur and Piara. A simple google search of this name with Ankur Narula will show that all three are Pastors in his church and actively promote conversion to Christianity. Varsha Rani is the vice president of Ankur Narula Ministry society. Balvir Kaur, who calls herself a “Prophetess”, runs Roshni Ki Kiran Ministry, another front for Ankur Narula, and is routinely featured in Masih Parivar Channel on YouTube. In the description of this video, shown below, you can see how both are connected.
Piara or Pastor Piara Lal, as he is now known, runs Gospel for Nations, Dialpur. That is another front for Ankur Narula. You can see the description of this video, that he is an associate of Ankur Narula just like others mentioned in the list.
Basically, Ankur Narula runs a web of organisations, all of which have the same goal of converting Hindus and Sikhs of Punjab to Christianity. The money being used in these activities can be openly seen in their programmes.
On the other hand, Ankur Narula claimed on his social media that he had bought many properties in the year 2018. He bought a college building and also opened The Christ Bible College. Clearly, a lot of money was spent here. If the account of Spiritual Welfare Society are audited, probably we shall know the whole truth.
Illegal foreign donations to Ankur Narula
At this stage, a simple question arises. How does an organisation, which has practically no footprint on the internet, manage to attract crores of rupees from foreign countries? Now this donation is not by a single organisation, but by hundreds of people, who must have known about the activities of the organisation before donating.
Please remember that the NGO named Spiritual Welfare Society does not even have a simple blog or website to solicit donations. Clearly, the donations are being solicited elsewhere. If not, hundreds of people do not magically know the correct account details of the organisation.
Here comes the role of media arms of the Ankur Narula organisation. Ankur Narula and his lackeys, publicize their activities through various social media channels. To take an example, the YouTube Channel by the name of Ankur Narula Ministries has more than 4 lakh subscribers. It is also known by the name of Anugrah TV. He actively seeks donations on the channel and the website of the channel. It must be noted that despite Ankur Narula not formally having any FCRA, he seeks foreign donations or “offerings”, as he calls it! It is clearly against the law.
It is for the investigating agencies to check where is he directing the money received from foreign countries. Infact, Spiritual Welfare Society might not be the sole route through which he is receiving money. He might be getting money through various other NGOs and through hawala route too. The information might be communicated to his followers through the given WhatsApp number. Please note that formally, on papers, Ankur Narula has nothing to do with Spiritual Welfare Society, so getting money from even there is illegal for him, specially as his organisation is not registered under FCRA! He cannot solicit any donations from outside Bharat at all.
The impact
The impact of this pumping of money in conversion activities can clearly be seen in Punjab. As we wrote in an earlier piece, Punjab is now 10% Christian. Ankur Narula started with 3 followers in 2008. By 2018, he had 1.2 lakh followers and his followers were growing double every year by his own admission. If we extrapolate the number, by 2020, he would have about 3-4 lakh members. Please note that the entire Christian population of Punjab in 2011 census was reported to be 3,48,230!
In 2016, Christian leader Imanul Rehmat Masih said, “In reality, our population is 7 to 10% in the state, but the latest census shows us less than 1%.” He demanded representation of Christian community in Legislative Assembly and easier methods to get conversion certificate. It is a matter of time before the political parties start another kind of appeasement in Punjab. In many cases, it has already started.
Conclusion
The government has recently amended the FCRA and it might curb to some extent the activities of these NGO, which are fronts for conversion factories. It is likely that the hawala transactions will now increase and unscrupulous elements will find and exploit some loopholes that still remain. It is important that the relevant investigating agencies mount a full investigation into the accounts of such persons so that fear of law can be put in the hearts of these people.
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On 7/10/2022 at 2:52 AM, dalsingh101 said:
bump
I think the only saving grace about the Sikh cannon fodder with the racist British Empire's "Indian" forces is that 90% of the soldiers above were Hindu's and Muslims.
And even the Punjabi element among those racist British Empire controlled forces was 80% Muslim and Hindu (which Muslims used to devastating effect in 1947).
Thus the actual percentage among Sikhs who actually served with the racist British Empire forces was always less than 5% of the total Sikh population at those times.
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Unbelievable how some of our people are so naive that they actually think that Genocidal killers like Slavemaster Profit Muhammad and Adolf Hitler did bhagti
Baba bidhi chand dal fake lineage??
in Sikh Sampardaaye Section
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They give the clear and direct answer to that very specific word (Sant) in their speech below:
Whilst I strongly disagree with the threat made above, nobody can deny that they were made Shaheed in June 1984 by the real terrorist Indira Gandhi.