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All I can tell you is what my teacher said to me. If the state comes let it happen. All you can do is surrender. You will barely even be aware that it is happening. Only when your going in and out of that state do you some what realise that it is happening.
I’m not able to hold sunn state very long, as I find myself going into sehaj frequently. My teacher said I won’t be able to force sunn, so if I go into sehaj that is fine. In fact he said learn to go into this state faster and faster. If I can just go there by saying Waheguru once and boom your gone that should be the goal. Takes me much longer than that. Anything from 15 to 30 mins at the moment and that to if I lay down. If I’m sitting up it will probably take longer as relaxing is harder as legs feel the pain which keeps mind in the body.
If you can hear any kind of sehaj dhun at that time then latch on to it if you can.
I need to properly listen to this video but I think this bibi talks about sunn/sehaj.
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Sunn is a state when there are no thoughts, just awareness exists very subtly. You will be numb almost like your just about to dose off. You won’t be able to even jap gurmantar at that time. Trying to maintain that state is very hard because you will most likely dose off and go into a sleep state known as sehaj.
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Please don’t try and put negative ideas into peoples head. If someone during abhiyaas someone encounters something negative let them state else it’s just speculation on our part. I would say to everyone remain positive until you personally encounter something which frightens you. These days there are so many Gurmukhs one can consult so no need to worry.
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Speechless is understatement.
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2 hours ago, PCSJZ said:
Paji, could you please explain the difference between anhad shabad and anhad naad?
Anhad naad is when the anhad shabads (multiple sounds) merge to form a single sound.
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There are two ways of obtaining the ras:
1. There is said to be Amrit in the air all around us. As you jap the gurmantar with dhyan and the air passes through your mouth you will begin to feel a sweetness in your mouth.
2. When you reach an higher avasta and can hear Anhad naad then as you listen to it with dhyan Amrit ras also drips from the naad.
Was discussed lots in this topic
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7 hours ago, Guest Guest said:
1) During sleep as per Gurmukhs, Mann leaves the body? Is there any Gurbani line which indicates that?
I've heard the pangti being used in this context but can't find it.
Dhan chotay mun kaha summyee...
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Thought this might be useful to share.
Often when reading Gurbani we come across terms from the Indic Tradition which, for those of us who have been born/raised outside India, are not familiar. For example, ਅਠਸਠ ਤੀਰਥ (68 pilgrimage sites) or ਚਾਰ ਖਾਣੀਆ (four sources of creation/life). Here is an extract from Bhai Manmohan Singh’s 8-Volume ‘Sri Guru Granth Sahib : English & Panjabi Translation’ on the definition of a lot of these terms.
Source : Sangat Santhiya Facebook group.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/339230870524950/permalink/351783752602995/
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4 hours ago, seattlesingh said:
regarding sat1176 link, in which bhai sahib describes focsing on the nij padh between the eyes about a quarter inch inside, he specifically mentions not to "kich ke dyan" which I translate as forcibly applying dhyan, he describes an alternative method of focusing on nij padh which I could not understand in the video. Could anyone clarify?
Thanks
He says don't strain yourself trying to create a bindu (spot). Put your dhyan gently there 3/4 inch or 2cm behind and between the eyes. A subtle light should appear around your eyes region.
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Where is Nij Pad explained.
https://www.facebook.com/100003234266996/videos/3451293338321774/
Ang 1159
I focus my meditation on my inner self, deep within.
nij pad (behind between the eyes) oopar laago Dhi-aan.The Name of the Sovereign Lord is my spiritual wisdom. Pause
raajaa raam naam moraa barahm gi-aan. rahaa-o.In the first chakra, the root chakra, I have grasped the reins and tied them.
mool du-aarai banDhi-aa banDh.I have firmly placed the moon above the sun.
rav oopar geh raakhi-aa chand.The sun blazes forth at the western gate.
pachham du-aarai sooraj tapai.Through the central channel of the Shushmanaa, it rises up above my head.
mayr dand sir oopar basai.There is a stone at that western gate,
pascham du-aaray kee sil orh.and above that stone, is another window.
tih sil oopar khirhkee a-or.Above that window is the Tenth Gate.
khirhkee oopar dasvaa du-aar.Says Kabeer, it has no end or limitation.
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This thread is more than just experiences. It is a more like a dairy that documents our journey to understand simran, the inner journey and what we are learning and experiencing along they way by a number of individuals. The posts contain subtle hints that may help someone in the future.
We might not have all the answers today but as I see in my own journey things I read 10+ years ago are presenting themselves again via different channels. There is some hidden truth out there which I don’t fully understand yet but I hope I am making slow progress in the right direction.
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On 10/10/2020 at 12:05 AM, Sat1176 said:
Gone full circle.
Bhai Dharamjit Singh ji also hinting at same technique.
Now listen to what Bhai Simranjit Singh ji is teaching on the subject.
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On 1/29/2014 at 10:24 PM, Sat1176 said:
After this when the seeker becomes full adept, he should concentrate his consciousness on the tip of the nose. At his point he would see strange supra-worldy sights and one acquires carious kinds of power. This practice will take some two years. But there is a supreme need to keep watch on the instructions ordained here. Eager enthusiasm is required beyond limit. Under these activities, one would see different kinds of lights, strange sights of secret worlds and hear strange musical strains.
Gone full circle.
Bhai Dharamjit Singh ji also hinting at same technique.
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On 10/8/2020 at 5:19 PM, Sat1176 said:
Subtle jugti of Saas saas simran revealed and how it helps balance the breath (sum the pavan/poan).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9b_aHfDbjo
Taking it to the next level and becoming ik drisht explained and how to see mind’s jot.
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Check out this little girl. Amazing that she is on the path at such a young age.
listen what she says at 23 mins.
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Subtle jugti of Saas saas simran revealed and how it helps balance the breath (sum the pavan/poan)
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Have a listen to this short video especially the bit where he talks about the early anhad sounds around 10 minutes in.
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Good video. Explains how anhad shabad draws you to back of head. How you see gold as you enter dasam duar and what Parkash of Waheguru looks like.
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Useful stages explained of how to seperating from pawan.
1. No thoughts but aware of body
2. Merging into sunn and losing body awareness. Like falling asleep.
3. No thought's, aware of body and also hear anhad sounds.
4. Hear anhad sounds but also aware you have lost body attachment i.e sleep and are in sehaj.
Feeling Tingling And Nothingness when going into sunn
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Not sure why your saying your loosing faith in SGGS. On the contrary your faith in your Guru should be increasing because your are learning about the hidden gems contained within Gurbani and how it is pointing you in the direction of Waheguru Nirankar. If you want to do sargun bhagti of saroop of SGGS then that is slightly different to bhagti of nirgun nirankar which what Bhai Simranjeet Singh is teaching. Your getting yourself confused. That journey is more about following the instructions of Gurbani and trying to walk on the practical path for yourself and reaching the states gurbani talks about. Surely that is the ultimate goal right?