Iron-Singh

I think most dharis are curly....just an observation.

My hair is straight, but my dhari is curly. Same with others in my family.

ask the Panj Piarey before hand of their opinion on your brother. Just go with what they say.

What was Giani Gian Singh's source?

Knowing I can trust something as the absolute truth.

some of the more important burning questions are revealed, instead of understood through effort.

simran is the answer to it all.

(this is what i've been told from more learned Sikhs, I'm still trying to follow this advice)

Khalsa is definitely here, and I don't think it will ever vanish.

Just being here and practicing its lifestyle is enough. True dharma is maintained if there is someone practicing it, and I am of the opinion that only the Khalsa is doing such a thing in Kalyug. How many does the khalsa number? A little less than a thousand.

The argument everyone uses...is that we aren't expressing our outrage, but have some one remrimand him for it..

That and Xians are made fun of here, so are jews, but ask why special treatment...I mean Jesus is on South Park assasinating Iraqis...how would you all feel if someone did that with um..Guru Nanak? But no one does that cause they will be stopped, but what about Xians

just playing devil's advocate. :wink:

Christians didn't become this tolerant overnight, they were slowly worn down with artists constantly pushing the line further. Same will happen with other religions.

Ahankar, Krodh.

I’m guessing some amritdharis feel they deserve some special respect from non-amritdharis and when they fail to get it, they get inflicted by krodh.

This sort of ahankar inflicts everyone really.

But we also see non-amritdharis who act spiteful and try to constantly degrade amritdharis for the simple reason that they themselves haven’t reached the same level…. jealously and resentment!!

Having attained anything of value can arouse ahankar. For some, becoming the Sikh of the Guru by taking amrit causes ahankar to swell up.

Such is the human condition.

In all honesty, I don’t think you are a Sikh of the Guru, in the truest sense, without Amrit. You might have immense love, devotion, respect for the Guru, but I think it still doesn’t make you a Sikh (in the truest sense of the word).

Therefore Amrit is very important.

I’ve been told that having taken Amrit you are guaranteed to be rescued, even if you fail in this life and are drowning in the worldly ocean. Meaning the Guru will bless you with another opportunity at this life without you having to go through the long cycle. I guess the Guru just really loves you if you take that step towards commitment, and he looks out for you more.

Being Amritdhari, you are listening to an instruction of the Guru, so it must be good for you. Just as repeating Vaheguru, practicing Rehit, doing Nitnem have benefits.

Let him just be.

Don’t ask him to do anything, for a while at least. If he is really doing what you say, then God will show him what he needs to do.

If he wants to just remain in bhagati all day, let him do that. Don’t start giving him lectures on living in the “real world†just yet.

This is a special time in his journey.

Not sure if you’re from the UK, but if you are from anywhere close to Vancouver, I can get you in touch with some Singhs.

p.s. don’t tell him to come on these forums just yet. He has more important things to do.

put some pants on that flying dude :shock:

Manmukh=overrides his Guru's instructions and follows his own thinking.

My gut feeling says they were guilty. But I think in the interest of the Law, the judge made the right decision.

You keep making references to the events of june 1984 and the Nihang Dals not playing a more prominent role as was expected. What they have to say about it, well its better if you ask one of Budda/Taruna Dals Top Singhs.

But lets not forget the fact that without these Nihangs Dals, there would be NO Sikh Panth left today, we would have been, wiped out or converted. They have been fighting wars since Guru Hargobind Maharaajs time, up until early last century.

Were there “nihang dals†in the times of the Gurus?

I thought Sikhs were all just one band under the Guru at that time.

I agree with sukhi's first post about the reason for such high veneration being humility.

Even the Gurus, who were the same Light of Guru Nanak, always spoke of Guru Nanak as “Vade Satguru†or “Supreme Guruâ€.

Some historical Sikhs we do hold in that “unattainable image†for justified reasons. For example, didn’t Guru Hargobind ji honor Baba Budha ji by saying “you are the highest example of a Sikh, everâ€. And how can we ever compare any Sikh scholar to Bhai Gurdass whose Bani has been designated as the “key†to SGGS by Guru Arjan Dev ji himself.

I think this tradition of high veneration of accomplished souls before us is beneficial. If we have Bhai Kahnayia from the time of Guru Gobind Singh ji, we also have Bhagat Puran Singh having the same kind of veneration. Some other soul will be inspired by Bhagat Puran Singh and he too will become a gem of the Panth, and the future generations will venerate him as well.

Oh, and sexysingh, do you have any solutions to this “problem�

random accidents is what i'm thinking.

Sin and Paap mean the same thing.

I think sin is any thought, action that results in distancing you from salvation/mukti/meeting God. That’s really the most non-specific definition that I can think of.

Can we ever do anything with full devotion?

I ask this question after reading some replies about the need for heart-felt actions in order for them to be of any good. Honestly thinking, I don’t know if I have ever had 100% devotion in anything I’ve done. Maybe I’m being modest, but I have a gut feeling it’s the cold truth.

Doing Nitnem, there are always times when my mind wanders, when I feel restless. This reminds me of a sakhi from Guru Hargobind ji’s time. Guru ji had asked for some premi to read Japji sahib to the sangat. One Sikh obliged and started reading. The Sikh read with so much devotion that Guru Hargobind ji started moving off of his seat ( a symbolic gesture of offering the gurgaddi). Of course the Sikh eventually tripped up by getting a little excited at his potential reward, which he pictured as being a horse seat that he admired.

What I mean to highlight from this sakhi is that full devotion is something that can elevate a mortal to such an exalted state. Can we really expect this type of devotion from the average person?

Are we meant to struggle and fight our chaotic minds in the pursuit of Saintliness?

Does devotion come from forcing ourselves to do the right thing, or is devotion something that is given to us?

Hope to get some ideas from the sangat on this.

Do we amuse God by asking this question?

Death scares me because I don't think my judgment would be nice.

What scares me even more is the idea that there is no God and after death, there will be no more "me". Total non-existance just freaks me out.

So I guess I'll take my chances in hell/rebirth instead of nothingness.

Better yet, I think I should make use of this life and get out of this whole bloody mess.

More and more of us are flooding into these forums.

We are Canadian, and gosh darn it, we are proud.

(Please ignore the tutu highdiver)

God gives us a cute concept and we take advantage.

*points to beast*

Deras are just centres of Sikh learning, sort of like colleges, or atleast that's how they should be. Instead of making blanket statements, we should only worry about the deras that lead ordinary folks away from Sikhi.