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you shouldnt be afraid - these 'bad' things come because you look at them out of fear - focus on what you're there for not on what you're not there for.

Put your mind in Guru Sahibs hands - this man is not ours, it will not listen to us and we have no power over it. It'll wander for a bit then slowly calm down and stick to Gurbani - if you give it the means to do so...ie listen to Gurbani

O.o

did you copy that off the the box?

the nag champa brand are usually nice - smell good and dont irritate

some of these dhoof could be used as crowd dispersant a la tear gas. But imo nag champa is the way to go. ive evne seen it on ebay if you cant find it your local dhoof shop.

As for bhang dhoof ...not too sure babaji would be too happy bout that.

what do you mea 'take naam'

amrit vela gives more fal; doesnt mean its the *only* time to do paat.

IMO not being well is all the more reason to wake up at amrit vela...but thats just me...even if its only to listen to paat on your hifi

he did very hard tapasya for long periods of time.

Im not entirely sure of the details.

I think for 20 years he only ate food that fell of a tree/bush by itself ie he never took any food from anywhere, nor did he forcefully take it from a tree.

After I think he suspended himself upside down in a well for 20 years without eating anything.

I may be wrong though...

i think kabir was really youg when he started doing simran - his mom started him off. He started doing tapasya after his gurdev told him he needed to work off the weight of showing ridhia sidhia which he did naively when he was young.

Bhagat dhana I believe became curious when he saw how the shivling was being treated. He was young - middle aged. He had huge kamai from past lives though, which is why he got Maharaj darshan.

i think i worked it out

bhalla - everything God does is, was and will be for our best interests

Bhana - i beleive this link explains it http://www.sikhawareness.com/sikhawareness...p?p=71268#71268

bhulla - you have to forget 'desh, kaal and vastu'

Who is this Brahm-Gyani who stated this story?

N30S!ingh,

I think that Gurbani clarifies somewhere that once you loose this human life, you either wander as ghost, or go through that 84 lakhs birth cycles to come back to human body once again?

I don't think so. If you are Gurmuk and proceeding in Bhagti you will come back as a human. Sangat of Satgur could earn him life as human evn though he was bemukh. I have heard of other cases of people coming back in successive human births, e.g. Suleman.

Remember you will be given back exactly as you have earned by DharamRaj, so he was granted a human life again before having to pay for what he did to Sahiubzade.

Thats how I see it anyway

Brilliant

i have heard of the three pabas, but I sunno what they mean :

what are Baba bhalla, baba bhulla, and baba bhana ji?

Thanks

It is, it's on display at the Tower of London.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/727231.stm

source: http://www.sikhawareness.com/sikhawareness...opic.php?t=7695

the undeleted ones are my choices

1. How did you find japji sahib katha translations?

c) good translations

2. How did you find japji sahib katha translations in terms of enchancing your knowledge?

d) extremely helpful, this katha by gyan ji really enchanced my knowledge...(didnt surprise me)

3. Did this japji sahib katha confused you at times, made you ponder upon it few times before grasping the vast knowledge in the katha?

c) wasn't confusing but really made me ponder upon on the vast knowledge before grasping it fully.

Foremost important question.

4. Did this katha helped you/ inspired you/reinforced you to reflect on each pauri of japji sahib while doing nitneem(every day prayers)??

yes but at the same time, i m still reading through japji sahib katha, hopefully in future i should be able print it out and should be able to reflect on whatever i learned from this katha on my daily prayers?

yea - you should compile it into a downloadabel printable file methinks

make a poll?

he specifically said that he is NOT Buddha.

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then why the question

I do not understand one thing that how can we be alive when we visit that place after dying?

also you usually stay there for a certain sentence - not eternity

>.>

...on

...find out what breed she is and whether you usually cut that breeds hair...you dont want the other dogs to laugh at her

keep going thats just the tip of the iceberg

can you elaborate?

what comes next

you dont really need to cut her hair...most long haired dogs have their eyes covered with hair...

If she runs into a door, maybe then

also many samll dogs dont really bark...she'll be better at it when shes older

dude

y'all arent exactly warming to this i see?

...

13 hours and no one even passed by

Ive alreayd got this going if anyone wants to join

...if the regular mods here want to made ops pm me with your nick. Otherwise i am online pretty much 24 hours a day so I can monitor to channel or at least help.

If you dunno how to use irc check out these links

http://www.mirc.com/ircintro.html

http://www.dal.net/

http://docs.dal.net/docs/newbie.html

and for the ops:

http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/opguide.html

use mirc or trillian, or chatzilla etc etc

imo trillian is the simplest to use - these are all free downlads - google them.

Chatzilla only works with mozilla and firefox

Hope to see y'all there

how about joining an IRC channel for Sikhawareness?

for those that dont know IRC is basically real time chat hosted on specific channels, in this case the channel is #sikhaism and is hosted on a server called dalnet.

server : dalnet (irc.dal.net)

channel : #sikhism

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If you use the Mozilla browser (an excellent alternative to IE, especially if you dislike Microsoft, like open source software, or are interested in cool features like tabbed browsing), you probably have ChatZilla already installed. There should be a little link to it on the left of the status bar at the bottom of the window.

For Windows users:

Trillian is a chat client that can connect to IRC as well as AIM, ICQ, MSN, and Yahoo, all at the same time with the same program. If you use other IM networks, this is an ideal client because it makes it all very simple.

mIRC is by far the most popular IRC client for Windows users. It's got all the features you'll need.

For Mac users:

Ircle is a common Mac IRC client and is suggested by the folks at mIRC for Mac users.

Mice iRC is an IRC client for OSX, and seems to be better liked than Ircle.

Want to try out IRC without installing anything? There are many web-based IRC clients that you can use right in your browser, such as this one. Ultimately, these type will be slower and often more prone to bugs/crashing, but they're good when you're away from your usual computer or can't install a program.

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fair enough, we should revive the old ways, but we should do it acccording to truth

as far as im concerned, the things he has said are kitabi gyaan.

Those same Mahapursh would have told us not to use baja etc they would at least have told the sevadars close to them.

Im not saying we shouldnt revive the old instruments, im saying we shouldnt do it on the basis of lies and force.

when you force someone to do something their reflex action is to resist. If you explain something to someone they often make the right choice. If you explain something good to someone using lies then they are not to blame if they ignore your point. IMO it is wrong to say that using a sitar is more important than devotion, and more important than poora prem espressed with a guitar for example.

These make Sikhi look like an extremist religion - like the people going around saying how long kirpans should be, or that girls *have* to wear keski.

Im not saying that its against Sikhi to do these things, Im saying its against Sikhi to use lies/force to make people do them

there arent really any tips

if you want to learn real santhia go to the taksal for a few months seeing as you're in india

thats ridiculous

I think these people now coming up and saying that we shouldnt do things any different to how they were done 500 years ago are what will destroy Sikhi in the end - making it a meaningless system of karm and ritual.

I cant believe he implies that it is more acceptable to sing Kirtan with the right instruments rather than with devotion...

Its ignorant manmat