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yes balbir singh God does exist in the cities aswell - especially a city in Germany where our dear friend balbir lives...he also lives in the city within you.

yep it must be me ??? sorry dalsingh101 please forgive me

Quote 12) BUT REMEMBER THIS - MUSLIMS ARE TRYING TO INCREASE THERE AUTHORITY IN THE UK IN ANY FORM AND WAY - TODAY THEY HAVE ISSUES WITH THE BNP AND EDL ETC - TOMORROW THEY WILL ATTACK YOU. Some of them already do. But that doesn't mean we jump into bed with goray a55holes now does it. That is low we have come as a quom where some upnay are so terrified of sullay that they are willing to become 'Joey boys' for neo-nazis..... WHERE DID I STATE THAT YOU SHOULD JUMP INTO BED WITH GORAY, CUZ I CANT SEEM TO FIND IT WRITTEN ANYWHERE. IS IT JUST ME OR CANT YOU REASON PROPERLY DAL SINGH101

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why admin cut there was no personal attack the sakhi i told was exactly as Guru Gobind Singh Ji spoke it. And why is capital letters such a problem that you have to delete my short response. THE ADMINS HERE ARE CORRUPT

12 may 2010

Admin Cut: Due to vicious attack against religion and posting in caps lock.

Refers to God as residing 'in the jungles'

90% of this thread has been used up by useless posts - let me simply tell you the facts and solutions. 1) Muslims discriminate against non muslims and always consider it good to try to convert others through whatever means as they believe this is the "super deed" 2) At this moment in time 99% of muslims are stupid corrupt evil people who are always quick to jump on the "we are religious boat". Trust me a very few are truly righteous and religious 3) Most young muslims are like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE7Xng1FEz0 4) Most human beings from the age of 15 -25 are very naive,daring, have heightened sexual needs etc etc. Having sex is something that everyone has to deal with one way or the other. 5) The vast majority of people deal with this through boyfriend/girlfriend relationships (Overt or Covert) one night stands, marriage etc etc. In most cases these are just short term growing up things. 6) Now talking about this video of a young girls life being destroyed - the fault is in the girl as she shouldn't have had any acquintance with a malesh boy in the first place. Its obvious she didn't have this moral reasoning. 7) The reason she didnt have moral reasoning was because it wasn't imparted into her by her parents and society. The root cause is the failure of our sikh society as a whole as there is no unity amongst our people even on issues that affect us all. Our mentality is that if its not happening to us then its fine. Sahib Sri GuruGranthSahib Ji states that "recognise to yourself what has happened to somebody else" (Ang 1373) 8)This is only the tip of the iceberg - You can't just make all girls into Singhnia like Mata Bhago Ji or all Singhs into Baba Deep Singh Ji nor is this gonna happen. 9) What we need is education - and your not gonna get this from TV or internet, infact these only serve to make things worse. I particularly blame Gurdvaras for doing damage to sikh religion and society as aswell. Take for example Shin Kin martial arts used to take place on saturdays at a local Wolverhampton Gurdvara, now the youth had everything they needed there - socialisation, exercise, interaction etc etc......every week one of the shin kin group leaders would do a 10 minute talk on any particular topic on Sikhism and so in this way the youth would also get teaching of there religion. THE COMMITTEE CAME ALONG AND TOLD THE SHIN KIN LOT THAT THEY CAN NO LONGER USE THE PREMISES and hence the project suffered a setback. 10) What we need is very good Gurdvaras and community centres and places where we can create a platform that people can come to and do sangat and recieve education. 11)At the moment we are scattered and diskindled and problems like this are a result of this root problem. 12) BUT REMEMBER THIS - MUSLIMS ARE TRYING TO INCREASE THERE AUTHORITY IN THE UK IN ANY FORM AND WAY - TODAY THEY HAVE ISSUES WITH THE BNP AND EDL ETC - TOMORROW THEY WILL ATTACK YOU.

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finally got time to read this thread.....guys i think your going off track... the topic was durga and sarbloh granth and not what is hinduism.....i did some further research on this topic i wish to share this with you..... 1, hindism has sacred scriptires eg, Geeta which were written by devtas not from God, only Gurbani is from God. 2, hinduisms main teachings are caste system, worship of devtas/devis aswell as God, fasts pilgrimages idol worship. sikhism is completey seperate from hinduism because we have initiation ceremony, reject caste and idol worship and have a living Guru. In Raag Bihagra there is a shabad stating that mahraaj doesn't believe in Hinduism.. when Maharaj appeared from Bheni river after three days Maharaj states 'i am neither hindu nor muslim i follow the path of God' 3, IN HINDUISM DURGA IS A DEVI WHO IS WORSHIPPED AS THE GODDESS OF WAR IN IDOL FORM OR MANTRA MEDITATION. 4, IN MY EXPERIENCE I HAVE FOUND THAT SCHOLARS ARE DIVIDED AS TO WHETHER SAHIB SRI GURU GOBIND SINGH JI MAHARAJ DID PARGAT OF DURGA HOWEVER MAHARAJ'S BIR RAS GRANTHS TALK ABOUT WAR AND DEMONS AND THE GODDESS DURGA. 5, NIHANG SINGHS BELIEVE IN ACCORDANCE WITH SARBLOH GRANTH THAT MAHARAJ DID DO PARGAT OF DURGA AND THAT MAHARAJ HAD HELPED HER IN A PREVIOUS TIME FORM, THAT OF SATYUG WHEN MAHARAJ WERE KNOWN AS DUST DAMAN. THERE IS ALSO A SAKHI WHERE NIHANGS BELIEVE THAT GURU GOBIND SINGH JI'S BLESSED WIFE;MATA SAHIB DEVA WAS AN INCARNATION OF DURGA AND HENCE SHE IS THE MOTHER OF THE KHALSA NIHANG SINGH PANTH. 6, IN SIKHISM DURGA REPRESENTS SHAKTI FROM WHICH EVERYTHING EXCEPT GOD WAS CREATED, THIS INCLUDES FIVE ELEMENTS NATURE AND MAYA ETC ETC. GOD IS KNOWN AS SHIV. (NOT SHIVA A DRUGGEE WHO LIVES WITH PARBATI AND GANESH IN THE MOUNTAINS SOMEWHERE) SHIV AND SHAKTI HAS BEEN MENTIONED MANY TIMES IN GURBANI EG, RAMKALI ANAND SAHIB, SIDH GOST ASWELL AS DASAM GRANTH AND SARBLOH GRANTH. IN ASA KI VAR GURU NANAK DEVJI STATES - DOE KUDRAT SAAJ KE KAR ASAN DITO CHAO....FROM ONE I CREATED TWO AND WITHIN THIS TWO I WATCH THE WORLD. 5,THE SHAKTA SHAKTI PRINCIPAL HAS TO BE FULLY UNDERSTOOD IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND WHO OR WHAT DURGA IS, DURGA THE EIGHT ARMED LADY REPRESENTS THE PHYSICAL 'HUMAN' FORM OF THIS SHAKTI WHICH IS CREATED BY GOD. 6, FINALLY THERE IS A DEBATE AS TO WHO WERE THE DEVTAS KRISHNA, RAM CHANDER, BAVAN AVTAR ETC....I'M NOT TO SURE AT THIS MOMENT BECAUSE I BELIEVE THEY WERE THE VERY FORM OF GURU NANAK DEV JI IN PREVIOUS AGES GURBANI STATES ANG 1390 ਸਤਜੁਗਿ ਤੈ ਮਾਣਿਓ ਛਲਿਓ ਬਲਿ ਬਾਵਨ ਭਾਇਓ ॥ सतजुगि तै माणिओ छलिओ बलि बावन भाइओ ॥ In the Golden Age of Sat Yuga, You were pleased to deceive Baal the king, in the form of a dwarf. ਤ੍ਰੇਤੈ ਤੈ ਮਾਣਿਓ ਰਾਮੁ ਰਘੁਵੰਸੁ ਕਹਾਇਓ ॥ त्रेतै तै माणिओ रामु रघुवंसु कहाइओ ॥ In the Silver Age of Traytaa Yuga, You were called Raam of the Raghu dynasty. ਦੁਆਪੁਰਿ ਕ੍ਰਿਸਨ ਮੁਰਾਰਿ ਕੰਸੁ ਕਿਰਤਾਰਥੁ ਕੀਓ ॥ दुआपुरि क्रिसन मुरारि कंसु किरतारथु कीओ ॥ In the Brass Age of Dwaapur Yuga, You were Krishna; You killed Mur the demon and saved Kans. ਉਗ੍ਰਸੈਣ ਕਉ ਰਾਜੁ ਅਭੈ ਭਗਤਹ ਜਨ ਦੀਓ ॥ उग्रसैण कउ राजु अभै भगतह जन दीओ ॥ You blessed Ugrasain with a kingdom, and You blessed Your humble devotees with fearlessness. ਕਲਿਜੁਗਿ ਪ੍ਰਮਾਣੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਗੁਰੁ ਅੰਗਦੁ ਅਮਰੁ ਕਹਾਇਓ ॥ कलिजुगि प्रमाणु नानक गुरु अंगदु अमरु कहाइओ ॥ In the Iron Age, the Dark Age of Kali Yuga, You are known and accepted as Guru Nanak, Guru Angad and Guru Amar Das. ਸ੍ਰੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਰਾਜੁ ਅਬਿਚਲੁ ਅਟਲੁ ਆਦਿ ਪੁਰਖਿ ਫੁਰਮਾਇਓ ॥੭॥ स्री गुरू राजु अबिचलु अटलु आदि पुरखि फुरमाइओ ॥७॥ The sovereign rule of the Great Guru is unchanging and permanent, according the Command of the Primal Lord God. ||7|| PLEASE SEND ME YOUR FEEDBACK

OK "DADDY JI" THANKS FOR YOUR SUGGESTION (lol)

CHILLOUT MAN LIFES TO SHORT TO BE STRESSING IF SOMEBODY SAYS SOMETHING NEGATIVE ABOUT YOU ABOUT YOU - MAN YOU GUYS GOT NO FOREBEARANCE

amardeep your showing your lack of knowledge kid - its DASAM GRANTH

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THIS IS AN AMAZING NEXT LEVEL KATHA AND VERY VERY DEEP ON GURUJIS LINEAGE,ITS ABOUT 1HOUR LONG AND VERY VERY RECOMMENDED TO EVERYONE LISTEN TO THIS. HEALTH WARNING TO THOSE WITH NARROW MINDS AS THIS MAY DAMAGE THERE EGOS (LOL) http://www.4shared.com/dir/27754666/e6c77ffc/sharing.html

THIS IS CHANDI A LADY GODDESS WHO AMONGST OTHER WEAPONS WIELDS A SWORD AND RIDES A SHER, NIHANGS HAVE SOME LINK WITH CHANDI BUT I DONT REALLY KNOW MUCH ABOUT IT..... I ONCE HEARD THAT NIHANGS WERE SOLDIERS OF CHANDI DURING THE TIMES (AEON) OF SATYUG, IN CHANDI KI VAR SAHIB SRI GURU GOBIND SINGH JI CONFIRMS THIS......BUT THIS IS A DEEP TOPIC IN ITSELF AND MOST PEOPLE JUST CANT DIGEST IT.

IN THIS KATHA GIANI JI REFERS TO RISHI VYAS PREDICTING THE COMING OF DHAN DHAN GURU NANAK DEV JI http://www.gurmatveechar.com/audio/katha/02_Present_Day_Katha/Giani_Pooran_Singh_%28Damdami_Taksal_wale%29/Kalki_Avtar_Katha/Giani.Pooran.Singh--Kalki.Avtar.Katha.Part.01.mp3

there is is 'amardeep' - rishi vyas for instance.

I JUST CAME BACK FROM DOING DARSHAN OF A GURMUKH WHO WAS A STUDENT OF SANT GURBACHAN SINGH AND DAMDAMI TAKSAL. HIS NAME IS DYA SINGH AND HE FROM THE MIDLANDS AREA - WHEN BABA TAKUR SINGH MAHAPURKH MET THEM A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO BABA JI IMMEDIATELY RECOGNISED THEM AND GAVE THEM A SAROPA AS BAKHSHISH FOR THERE IMMENSE SEVA TO SOCIETY AND SIKH PANTH. ANYWAY I ASKED GIANI DYA SINGH ABOUT DEVI PARGAT AND SARBLOH GRANTH, BABA JI STATED THAT MAHARAJ DASHMESH PATSHAH GURU GOBIND SINGH JI DID DO PARGAT OF DEVI AND THE REASON FOR THIS WAS FOR THE ANNIHILATION OF THE DEMONS THAT WERE PRESENT AT THE TIME.

Sant Bhupinder Singh Ji Boparai Walae came to UK in i think it was 2006 i met them, also the jatherdar b4 were also very chardi kala but i cant remember there name i think its jatherdar Gurdial Singh. Also 108 Sri Maan Sant Sunder Ji left for heavenly abode at Boparai Gurdvara Sahib which is in the name of Sri Hargobind Sahib Ji. For more info visit http://www.boparaikalan.com/

THERES ALSO CONSCIOUSNESS AND MENTALITY, BUT ENGLISH LANGUAGE IS NOT SO RICH AS INDIAS LANGUAGES - ANTISHKARAN IS A HOLISTIC TERM FOR ALL THE INTROSPECTIVE ASPECTS OF HUMAN NATURE BUT THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE LACKS ANYTHING SIMILAR TO THIS WORD (ANTISHKARAN)

Moderators for you huh???? Anyways thanks chatanga for letting me know.