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alrite im leaving dis forum. its dead ne ways

DOUBLE LOL @ LOL YOU !!... YOU ARE SHAMELESS

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It is shocking in the sense, that these ppl bow to the shivam ligam and regard it as GOD?? thats shocking

How can you say such relationships are common, when Iran has a Moral-Police that will spy on your private life and if they find you involved in such relations..then you risk yourself being executed..especially the risk is greater to the female community.

Nah, all that you wrote is pure BS. Singho, you are Javanmard with another Id or perhaps you are just another Iranian... this cant be coming from a Singh

what are you trying to prove exactly shamsher? you are saying that sikhs in western and indian soil are missing out on the freedom and that Iran is better for them? is this what you are trying to say...when u say Iran is better than Paris and London. U must have heard of a belgiain tourist who got kidnapped and is missing in Iran for several months !...

who cares about Aisha's age... u have to admit Ali Sina an Iranian scholar, fed up or Iran left Iran and is totally against it...there are so many of his likes.

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If your argument is about aryans. i dont care. You be aryans... whatever u want. Soul has no land no boundaries no caste.... ok you win i loose

YOUNG IRANIANS WANT FREEDOM AND SUCCESS IN LIFE By Delphine Minoui Published Saturday, July 10, 2004 E-mail Print PARIS, 10 July (IPS) Younger Iranians, including the students, fed up with 25 years of constant religious propaganda by the regime, are looking to new ways to succeed in life, far away from the official ideology. In an article published Saturday by the French centre right newspaper “Le Figaroâ€, Ms. Delphine Minou’i, the paper’s correspondent in Tehran says the “new source of imitation for the young Iranians are no more the grand ayatollahs, but those who have made fortune thanks to their initiatives. The article coincides with the fifth commemoration of the students revolt against the Islamic Republic, an event that had been prohibited by the authorities, deploying massive police forces in Tehran and other major cities to prevent any demonstrations by the students. The Iranians live in an environment that is closed on them Although the date passed without major demonstrations, but officials admitted the arrest of some five hundreds “trouble-makers†they said had “nothing to do with the students. As the regime stopped the students to mark the savage assault on students who were demonstrating peacefully in their dormitories the closure of a popular newspaper, the Office for Consolidating Unity, the Iranian student’s largest organisation called on the United Nations to help them identifying the culprits of the nightly raid that resulted in the arrest of hundreds of students, the wounding of hundred others and the death of at least one. “Since all our efforts to have the culprits brought to trial have reached no conclusion, we call on international organisations to put pressures on the Iranian authorities in the identification of those responsible for the savage operation against the studentsâ€, the OCU said in a communiqué. “As all good Shi’ite who respects itself, Babak Moradi possesses a "marja’", a "source of imitation", spiritual guide to which the Iranians refer traditionally in important moments of their life. But contrary to his coreligionists, the young Tehrani of 24 years didn't choose an ayatollah in turban and white beard. His "marja’" is called Jack Welch, the former Chairman of the American giant General Electricâ€, the article starts. "I read a great number of his books", confess Babak, who has just finished brilliantly studies in industrial management at the Shahid Behechti University. "He is an aged and experienced man, but has remained young in his head. For me, it is very important. He is creative and looks toward the future. He is a true manager, but above all, an excellent coach". He adds. Tired of the repetitive speeches of the religious who rule the country since twenty-five years, the new Iranian generation sulks the politics. For the commemoration of the student’s riots of the summer 1999, the majority of the students opted for silence. Disappointed by the failure of the reforms initiated in 1997 by President Khatami, disgusted by the return in strength of the conservatives that have taken back the majority in the new Parliament and controlled closely by the police and judicial forces, they are in quest of new models of reference. To the collective mobilization experienced by their parents at the time of the revolution of 1979, they prefer a more individual approach, a violent, underground revolt. Hence the hitherto boom of the reading of books touching to the spiritual, to psychology, to the techniques of communication and to the individual's success. YOUNG IRANIANS WANT FREEDOM AND SUCCESS IN LIFE-Body "My generation lived the post-revolution years, then the Iran-Iraq War. Today, the religious are incapable to meet our expectations. There is no freedom, no economic outlets. My only way to escape is the reading of books that gives me the keys to success", says Forouzan, a 35 years-old secretary. "The Iranians live in an environment that is closed on them", analyses the Iranian novelist Moniroo Ravanipour, who also keeps a small bookstore. "They live in a stuffy environment that they cannot change. Therefore, while reading these books, they try to change themselves", she says. On the Avenue Enqelab, just in front of the university of Tehran, the windows of the bookstores overflow with books to the appetizing stocks: How better to know oneself. The Alphabet of Joy. The Vitamins of the hope etc.. Hossein Sadeghi, bookseller of 25 years, also specializes in this kind of works. "It is an excellent business. These are the books best sold. I sometimes sell more than a hundred of them in a week", he says. "The religious don't know how to speak to the young. When I read their books, it is true gibberish" Hossein Sadeghi knew how to evolve with his time. After the election of Khatami, seven years ago, and the softening of censorship, political and philosophical essays quickly conquered the Iranian public, thirsty of novelties. But the fashion is the translation of the works of American "gurus" like Anthony Robins. "The translation of his last book is now in its 24th print", Sadeghi points out. “House made†gurus have also made its apparition in Tehran. "Not only you must respect the other, but you must respect yourself firstâ€, is the advise of Fakhrian Khoshiar, in his book “Recover confidence in oneself in one dayâ€. One has also to add the specialized magazines that offer a multitude of miracle recipes. The more in vogue is called â€Movafaqiat†(Success). Its director even proposes seminaries based on "the techniques of the success". “One is well far from the religious ideals that the regime tries to impose. "I am Moslem and I accept the Islam", says Maryam, adding, "but the religious don't know how to speak to the young. When I read their books, it is true gibberish", she says. ENDS STUDENTS SITUATION 10704 Editor’s note: This is a free translation of Ms. Minou’i’ article.

do u know about Ali Sina

BinLaden is dead, read the news on what his son told

you are javanmard we know it.

us, uk , france, germany might have armed Iraq ! but watch when UNITED STATES OF AMERICA will come to get u.. make yourself a cave and hide.

MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE... IRAN IS IN THE WATCH-LIST OF THE United States of America ! Very soon your piece of land will be greeting F-16s and Stealth Fighters. Very soon your soil will become targets of US Cruise missiles and smart bombs to blow of those caves where you sheet-heads live.

Look friends. I am not trying to compare Iran with India,but if you really want to compare Iran with India. I would go for India, because Sikhs got MORE freedom in India than in Iran. If you want to compare all thecountries of the world than to the best of my knowledge I feel Canada is the best country. Now as for Iran. Iran is just another Saddam Hussein's Iraq. Girls are raped there in the custody of police, okay even in Indian police custody it is.. but an Indian girl can file a court case and Iranian girl will straight be executed or as per the law to be stoned to death. Something that happens in Pakistan.. I have read..this 16 year old girl was gang raped and made to parade naked on the streets and the people and the police did nothing to stop the offenders until one elderly woman put a cloth on her body...now thats horrific... all these tri-countries Iran-Afghanistan-Pakistan are the three most barbaric, uncivilised countries of the world in terms of its religious clergy. IRAN EXECUTES ITS PEOPLE PUBLICALLY ... THE VERY GOVERNMENT OF IRAN EXECUTES ITS PEOPLE PUBLICLY BY HOISTING THEM UP WITH CRANES !!!!!1 THAT IS HORRIFIC ENOUGH TO MAKE IT A "NO-GO" COUNTRY. USA DOESNT EXECUTE ITS PEOPLE PUBLICALLY AND EVEN IF IT DOES EXECUTE CRIMINALS THEY USE TO DO IT WITH AN ELECTRIC CHAIR AND NOW MORE COMMONLY THEY ETHUANISE THE PERSON TO DEEP SLEEP , WHICH IS PAINLESS. INDIA DOESNT CARRY OUT PUBLIC EXECUTIONS ... EVEN THOUGH INDIAN DEMOCRACTIC SYSTEM IS CORRUPT AND I MEAN TO SAY TOTALY CORRUPT.. LIVING IN INDIA IS NOT AS BAD AS LIVING IN IRAN WHERE THE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALY DOESNT GIVE U THE BASIC LIBERTY RIGHTS. I CAN LIVE IN INDIA AND WRITE A WHOLE bad things ABOUT INDIA, BUT IF ANYONE LIVES IN IRAN AND WRITES bad things about IRAN, HES BOUND TO FACE EXECUTION. Tell me is this true or not? i know so many people who left iran to USA to escape the rule of the regime. shamsher u maybe javanmard with a different id. i dont have anything against you.. you can be my friend, but i m helping you look at some of the bad things about your country.. and perhaps you will feel a lot better agreeing with me.

okay shamsher go live in Iran.

Sangat Ji, I am not asking wether I should marry or not. I am telling the sangat of what happened with me and I really want to marry..but I dont want to take the wrong step ..... I want to know what should I do.. i dont want to take the wrong decision.

but there are some sikh guys who told me that its okay and that Maharaaj ji forgives. ... afterall it is in the hands of Maharaaj with whom we marry and whom we dont... who are we infront of Maharaaji ji, not even a small ant, He controls everything. .. and if we make mistakes and promises in mistakes. I was also told... "Bekhari se raaja...raaja se bikhari"... first of all such a promise was never valid in the first hand... if it was then bikhari se raja aur raja se bikhari wali gul nahi hundi c. Chalia muktia also made promise they wrote their names on the paper that they donn belongto the Guru, but then the Guru tore that paper, if u know the story. anyways.. i need advice from sangat, what the sangat says that I will do it.. if everyone says dont marry.. I wont marry.

but that promise was my MISTAKE.. my nadani,and God showed me .... that he doesnt accept my sanjog with that girl! .... by making that promise i tried to take hukam in my own hands and God proved it to me that I cant do it. moreover... we are not married until anandkaraj, and perhaps how we know, maybe God never accepted my promise... He can forgive me as a nadaan bacha.

she did not promise only i had promised, but i think by promising i had made a mistake :_(

dude vishnu, brahma , shiva... they are nothing infront of WAHEGURU. All that exists is WAHEGURUWAHEGURUWAHEGURU.....WAHEGURU CONTROLS EVERYTHING. Vishnu, Shiva, Brahma from what I can understand is just an analogy for humans to understand the creative, destructive, preserve process. and no body prays to Brahma..do u know that !!! as for Shiva... he also gets incited by Kaam .. and ppl pray to him {} that shiva lingam, is nothing but the representation of male sex organ and the femal sex organ in intercourse. the milk they through on the lingam is nothing but signification of semen... and thats what it really means..and thats what they pray and bow to !!! SHOCKING

http://www.iran-press-service.com/ips/arti...ons_in_Iran.jpg --->>This is what the iranian government does to its people.

Matheen ji. Why am I going about IRAN? Because Iran is a big No=No=No. I came to this forum and all of a sudden, I find javan mard giving wrong ideas about Iran to my bros and siss and saying Iran is better than paris and london. Did you know that according to Iran.. if a woman is raped, she faces a death penality and the people who raped her can easily get away with the crime ! same in pakistan, if a woman is raped she has to bring 4 witness to testify her rape. Iran-Afghanistan-Pakistan.. are the big No-Go countries of the world and I cant believe that my brothers andsisters sitting in england and france are so naive that they cant judge by themselves.