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wouldnt Guru himself be a witness to this?

so would someone such as fire-god be necessary?

assuming that everyone will end up being cremated?

ie some peopel drown in rivers and there bodies are never found?

what is the significance of 51 days? if you ask muslims they woudl probably say only one bite of a pig is enuf proof that sum1 has renoucneced islam.

is this Baba Hari Singh Randhava wale?

he givesa different account of the meat-eating in muktnama to the katha of Giani Thakur Singh.

in uk it was done b4 12 oclock cos thats when the pubs opened.

on sundays pubs used to open at 12 and shut at 3 by law. so the wedding was completed b4 12 so the men cud have a drink to celebrate the wedding strate after.

is tha the same rehitnama which talks about what time saag can be eaten?

you gurmat sangeet academy are doing a great job!

thanks for the compliment Bhai Fateh Singh.

You werent aware that at Damdama Sahib Guru Gobind Singh dictated the Granth Sahib to Bhai Mani Singh? unless of course someone has managed to "fabricate this " and get so many people into beleiving it happened. plz if you are able to answer the question.

i intend no malice. im just asking a question, and i have worded it so you wouldnt be offended.

Fateh Singh, could Satguru Jagjit Singh recite Granth Sahib from "ek onkar to athara das bees" by memory?

im only asking cos if we were to come to a stage where Dasam Guru had to recite the whole Granth Sahib to Bhai Mani Singh, would Satguru Jagjit Singh be able to do it?

I know what you mean. imagine people showing ab. no interest in things such as this amazing event, 1984 remembrance programme...etc.

spiderman is right. 1984 happened cos of terrorists occupying the red fort in new delhi, and live under the false title of the worlds largest democracy.

the rulers of hindustan have largely always been terrorists.

well done spiderman. neo plz dont ban him for this.

good point made there Jassa Singh ji. i think what most people are getting at the titles of honour that the Nihang Singh use ie the Ladli fauj of Guru, the Sikhs standing army etc . But in times of hardship and war the soldiers are nowhere to be seen.

tsingh the sikhs that were in Darbar Sahib in 88 were there for a wedding. only the govt thru its spies already knew they were gona be there and planned to get them.

I dont think they were gonna be there for much time had the militaryt not surrounded them.

the article does not include the fact that some of the terrorists were govt agents under kp gill control.

we also need acknowledgement as equals within the indian regime. are we gonnna get that? we havent for the last 60 years.

spiderman, can the Sikhs express thier views in india?

without getting arretsed or harrassed by police?

without sufferiing harm to thier lives , property?

cos Sikhs are living the the type of raj you seem to despise. a raaj where we have no appeal, vakeel or daleel.

dont be a hypocrit.

actually i was talking about the line before that.

what if the 5 pyare announced a death sentence on gill?

Dasam Guru gave cheto and other people death sentences, so could this be caried out?

one mans terrorist is anothers freedom fighter.

anyway this is to commemorate the departed souls who died in Darbar Sahib at the hands of the india ravan sena. All the men terrorists, women terrorists, and children terrorists who died of thirst, bullets and bombs.

not the why's and wherefore's. That is still to come.

this topic is being discussed on sikhsangat.

http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?showto...60&start=60

also im copying a post and i would like your opinion on the line that is qutoed.

So some Nihangs took part in the movement, does that mean that their actions were in line with Budha Dal policy of Santa Singh or against it. Considering all the bukwas that Santa Singh mouthed about Sant Bhindranwale as well as the SGPC there's no doubt that any Nihang taking part in the movement was going against Santa Singh's orders. Santa Singh for years had security provided by the CRPF. So much for the so-called Panth Patishah!!

There were three Mukh Gadars in 1984, Santa Singh, Zail Singh and Buta Singh. All were given tankah. Does that mean that we should forgive their actions? Zail Singh signed the order that authorised the army to kill thousands on Sikhs during operation Bluestar. Buta Singh was the jholichuk of Gandhi who went around looking for any Sikh leader to support the government action and undertake the Sarkar Sewa. Santa Singh stabbed the Panth in the back by his actions. Before Santa Singh sold his soul to Indira Gandhi and brought his Nihangs into the mix, there were only a few congressi Sikhs on the government side. The rest of the Panth was united. After Santa Singh's gadari, other gadars came forward such as Longowal, the Badal, KPS Gill etc.

A split Panth is Santa Singh's legacy to us.

As for the Tankah, if KPS Gill stage manages a pesh through Badal and is forgiven for his actions by just doing a few Japji Sahib paths, does this mean that it will be ok for Sikhs then to leave him alone and treat him again as just another ordinary Sikh?

shaheedon ki chitaou par lagenge har bars mele.

anyone know the next line to this?

again a reminder to evry1 to keep the 8th june free and attend rally at hyde park in london.

if he duznt reply it cos he's prob still reading it.

fateh to evry1.

please attend the Hyde park rally for remembrance of ALL the people who died in Operation Bluestar in June 1984. It is on June 8th.

PLease give one day this year to the memory of those who gave their lives for our glorious nation.

Please bring as many friends and family as possible as you can.

Thanks in advance.

woudnt class DS as part of the media, they are mainly known for topless girls and rubbish jokes.

anything to tell us neo bhaji?

Bhai Mani Singh was given var by Dasam Guru that even tho his body may be cut to peices he would stay firm to his path. Sant Gurbachan Singh and others have stated this in katha of taksal.