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  1. Will do. Regarding Sri CharitroPakhyan Granth series, at the moment it feels like I'm having a conversation with myself. I just have been a little busy lately, and a little demotivated to be honest. Too much agianta flying around on social media.
  2. What or where is SA? Shoes in the langar hall are usually where there are only tables and chairs. I have only seen some ramgarhia gurdwaras in the UK that still only have tables and chairs. Whereas most Gurdwaras have provisions for both.
  3. Sitting on the floor to eat is also a sign of humility. Servants eat on the floor in their masters house. Not on the tables.
  4. Found this today. It's also on Youtube on a very interesting channel with some other gems there as well.
  5. The Sikhs are a strong financial community there but a weak physical community. They do not have the resolve to defend themselves, so are easy targets. I think you are overestimating the capabilities of the Nihangs if you think they can take on any faction of the Afghan militias. Big or small.
  6. I think it is because most international orgs know that there is little they can do. Even the general public of Afghanistan have turned against the Sikhs and HIndus over the last 25 years. If US could not destroy the Taliban with all their firepower, international orgs know there is nothing more they can do.
  7. Neo, I like that there are many sections and sub-sections to this forum. It kind of divides everything up neatly. I do think that a separate sub-section be made for Sri CharitroPakhyan Granth research in Dasam Granth section as it takes up a lot of the forum. It's a shame that progress on Sri CharitroPakhyan Granth has come to an almost standstill. When Paapiman was here, there were two of us to keep things going but he has disappeared for almost 2 years now. I just got some things going on with family and such that doesn't give me much time any more. I hope that by the end of this year w
  8. Hi all. Wanted to bump this thread again and bring everyone news of a dismaying situation in Lahore, with the ShaheedGanj of Bhai Taru Singh being taken over by Barelvi muslims. Some years ago, a sect of muslims took over this Gurdwara and painted one of the domes green, although it has been repainted white. This article mentions the same guy behind the recent attempt on 26th July, Sohail Butt. He is the same guy who made the video on the 26th threatening Sikhs in Pakistan. https://www.tribuneindia.com/2007/20070827/main8.htm
  9. Missionaries are using misusing lines from SGGS to try and deny that hell does not exist. This needs to be countered by given correct explanations of gurbani. One of the missionaries more common lines to use is : ਕਵਨੁ ਨਰਕੁ ਕਿਆ ਸੁਰਗੁ ਬਿਚਾਰਾ ਸੰਤਨ ਦੋਊ ਰਾਦੇ ॥ (ਇਹ ਲੋਕ ਆਖਦੇ ਹਨ ਕਿ ਕਾਸ਼ੀ ਵਿਚ ਰਹਿਣ ਵਾਲਾ ਸੁਰਗ ਮਾਣਦਾ ਹੈ, ਪਰ) ਨਰਕ ਕੀਹ, ਤੇ, ਵਿਚਾਰਾ ਸੁਰਗ ਕੀਹ? ਸੰਤਾਂ ਨੇ ਦੋਵੇਂ ਹੀ ਰੱਦ ਕਰ ਦਿੱਤੇ ਹਨ; What is hell, and what is heaven? The Saints reject them both. Missionaries say that this line proves that there is no heaven or hell. But they mislead with the word "ਰਾਦੇ " (ਰੱਦ) which doe
  10. It does provide the oppressing community with ammunition to claim that everything is ok and the ones who complain are a minority of troublemakers.
  11. So because we are outsiders we have no voice, no opinion? Well why are you posting this drivel on an international forum? Why not just post it in India and discuss it between yourselves? Exactly. So you have proved yourself to be an ignorant person yet again by trying to insinuate that muslims and only muslims do these crimes. The "future" of this terrorist state of india. Why should I tell you? I'm an outsider so have no opinion of value to you. You keep kissing hindutva batty. For my fellow forum members though, who have an ounce of dignity and beleive in j
  12. Chritar 118: Tale of Rani Mantar Kala ਚੌਪਈ ॥ Chaupaee ਪਛਿਮ ਦੇਵ ਰਾਵ ਬਡਭਾਗੀ ॥ ਮੰਤ੍ਰ ਕਲਾ ਰਾਨੀ ਸੌ ਪਾਗੀ ॥ In the West Country there lived an auspicious king named Dev Raao. Mantar Kala was his wife. ਜੋ ਤ੍ਰਿਯ ਕਹੈ ਵਹੈ ਜੜ ਕਰਈ ॥ ਬਿਨੁ ਪੂਛੈ ਕਛੁ ਤਿਹ ਨ ਨੁਸਰਈ ॥੧॥ The way the woman directed, that fool followed and without her consent would not take a single step.(1) ਤਾ ਪਰ ਰਹਤ ਰਾਵ ਉਰਝਾਯੋ ॥ ਦੋਇ ਪੁਤ੍ਰ ਤਾ ਤੇ ਉਪਜਾਯੋ ॥ S
  13. The main aspect of this story to me is Jujaat's impatience. He has been given a method to obtain Sati as his wife but the method is long-drawn and timely. He simply cannot wait to reach Sati that he commits a sin by striking a Rikhi - a holy man. Forgetting that these Rikhis have the power to give boons but also curses. The other thing tha stood out was that Jujaat had already been made Indar Raaj - God of swarag. This should have been more of a acquisition than the consort of Indar Dev. Instead of thinking about the huge blessing, and responsibility conferred on him, he got caught in the
  14. Chritar 117: Tale of Sachee ਚੌਪਈ ॥ Chaupaee ਦੈਤਨ ਤੁਮਲ ਜੁਧੁ ਜਬ ਕੀਨੋ ॥ ਦੇਵਰਾਜ ਗ੍ਰਿਹ ਕੋ ਮਗੁ ਲੀਨੋ ॥ When the devils indulged in war, Devraj went to Indra’s house. ਕਮਲ ਨਾਲਿ ਭੀਤਰ ਛਪਿ ਰਹਿਯੋ ॥ ਸਚਿਯਹਿ ਆਦਿ ਕਿਸੂ ਨਹਿ ਲਹਿਯੋ ॥੧॥ He (Indra) hid himself in the stem of the Sun-flower, and neither Sachee nor anybody else could see him(1) ਬਾਸਵ ਕੌ ਖੋਜਨ ਸਭ ਲਾਗੇ ॥ ਸਚੀ ਸਮੇਤ ਅਸੰਖ ਨੁਰਾਗੇ ॥ All, including Sachee, became appre
  15. I get dreams of these kinds as well. I think that more people do than is known. But I don't really let it affect me.
  16. Sadly many Sikhs now these days DON'T think that Sikh are poor oppressed people in india. Maybe, but the rapes and murders of low castes girls in Bihar/UP are done by hindus right? No. But then we have a different idea of what it means to be oppressed. Look at the source of your article and that should tell you a lot. But I can't see any mention of the hundreds of Sikhs who were expelled from their farmlands in UP about 2 weeks ago. That is a more visible sign of an oppressed community.
  17. Village gurdwaras don't have tents. Many of them will have indoor langar-khanas but I have not seen any that have some audio system there. The gurdwaras in UK have an audio system that whatever is being played from the darbar is relayed in the langar-khana. I'm talking about a specific system for langar-khanas that can be used regardless of whats happening in the darbar. In the UK though, no-one is listening to the darbar in the langar-khana. They are too busy talking to each other.
  18. Two brothers both wanting the same woman to be their wife. This story is quite known in ancient Hindu tales. From this I see that 2 brothers who were united in absolutely everything, ended up fighting against each other as they both wanted the same thing. It led to their demise at each other's hands. Not only theirs at that, but both their armies which had established their rule over the 3 worlds. There have been other such stories in which "women" were created for the same individual purpose - Mohini and the rakhsas for one.
  19. I used a machine to cut the wood to size - my friend has one which came in very handy. I designed it myself mentally on how i wanted it to look and then sketched it out. It isn't perfect and i spent a lot of time getting the internal screws to align. But in the end it does the job perfectly.
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