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Chritar 117: Tale of Sachee

On 9/18/2017 at 7:21 AM, Gursharan Kaur said:

I get dreams at night like some one stabbing, I am drowning,I see dead people calling me

 

I get dreams of these kinds as well. I think that more people do than is known. But I don't really let it affect me.

On 6/22/2020 at 12:23 AM, kdsingh80 said:

Sadly many Sikh's now these days think that Muslims are poor oppressed people in India

Sadly many Sikhs now these days DON'T think that Sikh are poor oppressed people in india.

 

On 6/22/2020 at 12:23 AM, kdsingh80 said:

while the reality is muslim guys are one worst culprits in crime against women

Maybe, but the rapes and murders of low castes girls in Bihar/UP  are done by hindus right?

 

On 6/22/2020 at 12:23 AM, kdsingh80 said:

Is this the sign of an oppressed community

No. But then we have a different idea of what it means to be oppressed.

Look at the source of your article and that should tell you a lot. But I can't see any mention of the hundreds of Sikhs who were expelled from their farmlands in UP about 2 weeks ago. That is a more visible sign of an oppressed community.

7 hours ago, ipledgeblue said:

in India pends, langar would probably be done sitting outside, or perhaps tents can be set up.

The audio would be much louder than in the uk langar halls, as it would be for open air.

Village gurdwaras don't have tents. Many of them will have indoor langar-khanas but I have not seen any that have some audio system there.

 

On 6/4/2020 at 7:10 PM, Premi said:

I have seen audio in Langar hall in UK

The gurdwaras in UK have an audio system that whatever is being played from the darbar is relayed in the langar-khana. I'm talking about a specific system for langar-khanas that can be used regardless of whats happening in the darbar. In the UK though, no-one is listening to the darbar in the langar-khana. They are too busy talking to each other.

Two brothers both wanting the same woman to be their wife. This story is quite known in ancient Hindu tales. From this I see that 2 brothers who were united in absolutely everything, ended up fighting against each other as they both wanted the same thing. It led to their demise at each other's hands. Not only theirs at that, but both their armies which had established their rule over the 3 worlds.

 

There have been other such stories in which "women" were created for the same individual purpose - Mohini and the rakhsas for one.

 

16 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:

That's good! Did you saw it by hand or use a machine? 

 

Where did you get the design? Did you make it up yourself?  

 

I used a machine to cut the wood to size - my friend has one which came in very handy. I designed it myself mentally on how i wanted it to look and then sketched it out. It isn't perfect and i spent a lot of time getting the internal screws to align. But in the end it does the job perfectly.

 

Chritar 116: Tale of Two Devils: Sandh and Apsandh

 

This Charitar is heavily based on the sakhi of Indar Dev and Ahaliya, the wife of Rishi Gautam. It focus' on the efforts of Ahaliya to hide her deceit. This deceit involves using her daughter. This is one of the points that stand out, that Ahaliya had to rope in other family members to help her. In the end, all three involved are punished heavily - Indar Dev, Ahaliya and Ajni.

One other aspect that stood out was the name of the friend who took Ahaliya's proposal to Indar Dev - Jogeneshri. A play on the word "jogni" which is kind of a witch, evil woman etc. The eshri meaning lord of tells us that either the name or title of the woman. It seems a little unusual because Ahaliya is the wife of a Rishi, but her friendship/trust is with a jogni.

2 hours ago, ipledgeblue said:

Well what I am thinking is that there will probably be some kind of speaker system in most pends outside the gurdwara, During the langar, there should be some kind of prachar happening that can be heard in the location where langar is happening, and also those partaking in the langar need to be encouraged to do the sewa as well. The more people are involved the more likely they will want to join...

 

That can be done but once the diwan is over no-one is going to use the speaker system to do parchaar. What would be more feasible is if there was an audio system in the langar-khana which could be used to do parchaar to sangat in langar. But I haven't seen any Gurdwara in the west do this, nevermind Gurdwaras in Panjab. Here in the west, the langar-khana is used as a social meeting place which is why it's not used.

Here you go. Excuse the mess though, our garage was a right mess until recently.

 

 

Chritar 115: Tale of Rishi Gautam and Ahliya

ਦੋਹਰਾ ॥

Dohira

ਰਿਖੀ ਗੌਤਮ ਬਨ ਮੈ ਬਸੈ ਤਾਹਿ ਅਹਿਲ੍ਯਾ ਤ੍ਰੀਯ ॥

The sage, Rishi Gautam lived in a jungle; Ahliya was his wife.

 

ਮਨਸਾ ਬਾਚਾ ਕਰਮਨਾ ਬਸਿ ਕਰਿ ਰਾਖਿਯੋ ਪੀਯ ॥੧॥

Through incantations, she had gained authority over her husband.(1)

 

ਸੁਰੀ ਆਸੁਰੀ ਕਿੰਨ੍ਰਨੀ ਤਾ ਸਮ ਔਰ ਨ ਕੋਇ ॥

Among wives of gods, devils, Kinners, there was none,

 

ਰੂਪਵਤੀ ਤ੍ਰੈ ਲੋਕ ਮੈ ਤਾ ਸੀ ਅਉਰ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

As pretty as she through out the domain ofheaven.(2)

 

ਸਿਵਾ ਸਚੀ ਸੀਤਾ ਸਤੀ ਤਾ ਕੋ ਰੂਪ ਨਿਹਾਰਿ ॥

Shiva’s consort, Saachi, Sita and other devout woman,

 

ਰਹਤ ਨਾਰਿ ਨਿਹੁਰਾਇ ਕਰਿ ਨਿਜ ਘਟਿ ਰੂਪ ਬਿਚਾਰਿ ॥੩॥

Always looked towards her to correlate their beauty.(3)

 

ਗੌਤਮ ਰਿਖਿ ਕੇ ਦੇਵ ਸਭ ਗਏ ਕੌਨਹੂੰ ਕਾਜ ॥

On a special mission, all the gods called at Gautam Rishi.

 

ਰੂਪ ਅਹਿਲ੍ਯਾ ਕੋ ਨਿਰਖਿ ਰੀਝਿ ਰਹਿਯੋ ਸੁਰ ਰਾਜ ॥੪॥

Reflecting upon the beauty of Ahliya, Lord Indra was charmed.(4)

 

ਅੜਿਲ ॥

Arril

ਬਾਸਵ ਕੀ ਛਬਿ ਹੇਰਿ ਤਿਯਾ ਹੂ ਬਸਿ ਭਈ ॥

Enticed by the handsomeness ofIndra, the women fell for him too,

 

ਬਿਰਹ ਸਮੁੰਦ ਕੇ ਬੀਚ ਬੂਡਿ ਸਭ ਹੀ ਗਈ ॥

And she felt thoroughly drenched in the sea of separatio.

 

ਤੀਨ ਲੋਕ ਕੋ ਨਾਥ ਜੁ ਭੇਟਨ ਪਾਇਯੈ ॥

(She thought) ‘lfI attain this one who propels all the three domains,

 

ਹੋ ਜੋਬਨ ਜੜ ਮੁਨਿ ਤੀਰ ਨ ਬ੍ਰਿਥਾ ਗਵਾਇਯੈ ॥੫॥

‘Then, I will not waste my youth by living with this foolish sage.(5)

 

ਦੋਹਰਾ ॥

Dohira

ਤਬ ਅਬਲਾ ਸੁਰ ਰਾਜ ਕੇ ਮੋਹੀ ਰੂਪ ਨਿਹਾਰਿ ॥

This vulnerable lady was captivated with the magnanimity of Lord Indra,

ਹਰ ਅਰਿ ਸਰ ਤਾ ਕੌ ਹਨ੍ਯੌ ਘਾਯਲਿ ਭਈ ਸੁਮਾਰ ॥੬॥

And Shiva was badly hurt through his adversary, (the Cupid).(6)

 

ਚੌਪਈ ॥

Chaupaee

ਕੌਨ ਉਪਾਇ ਸੁਰੇਸਹਿ ਪੈਯੈ ॥

ਪਠੈ ਸਹਚਰੀ ਤਾਹਿ ਬੁਲੈਯੈ ॥

‘What should I do to achieve him? Should I send my friend to call him?

 

ਏਕ ਰੈਨਿ ਜੌ ਭੇਟਨ ਪਾਊ ॥

ਤਾ ਪਰ ਸੁਨੋ ਸਖੀ ਬਲਿ ਜਾਊ ॥੭॥

‘Even if I get only one chance of meeting, then, listen my friend, I will be a sacrifice to him.(7)

 

ਦੋਹਰਾ ॥

Dohira

ਜੋਗਨੇਸੁਰੀ ਸਹਚਰੀ ਸੋ ਤਿਨ ਲਈ ਬੁਲਾਇ ॥

She called her friend Jognesary,

ਸਕਲ ਭੇਦ ਸਮੁਝਾਇ ਕੈ ਹਰਿ ਪ੍ਰਤਿ ਦਈ ਪਠਾਇ ॥੮॥

She related her the secret and sent her to Lord Indra.(8)

 

ਜਾਇ ਕਹਿਯੋ ਸੁਰ ਰਾਜ ਸੋ ਭੇਦ ਸਖੀ ਸਮਝਾਇ ॥

The friend went and conveyed the secret to Indra.

 

ਸੁਨਤ ਅਹਿਲ੍ਯਾ ਕੀ ਬ੍ਰਿਥਾ ਰੀਝਿ ਰਹਿਯੋ ਸੁਰ ਰਾਇ ॥੯॥

Or learning the predicament of Ahliya, Indra was overwhelmed.(9)

 

ਸਵੈਯਾ ॥

Savaiyya

ਬਾਲਿ ਗਿਰੀ ਬਿਸੰਭਾਰ ਸੁਨੋ ਹਰਿ ਭਾਲ ਬਿਖੈ ਬਿੰਦਿਯੋ ਨ ਦਿਯੋ ਹੈ ॥

‘Oh, Lord Indra, listen, the lady has fainted and has not even put on the forehead dot.

 

ਟਾਮਨ ਸੋ ਕੇਹੂੰ ਤਾਹਿ ਕਰਿਯੋ ਜਿਨ ਆਜੁ ਲਗੇ ਨ ਸਿੰਗਾਰ ਕਿਯੌ ਹੈ ॥

‘As she has been affected by some one’s magical spell, she has not done any make-up.

 

ਬੀਰੀ ਚਬਾਇ ਸਕੈ ਨ ਸਖੀ ਪਰ ਪਾਇ ਰਹੀ ਨਹਿ ਪਾਨਿ ਪਿਯੋ ਹੈ ॥

‘In spite of ardent requests by her friends, she has not chewed any beetle nuts.

 

ਬੇਗਿ ਚਲੋ ਬਨਿ ਬੈਠੇ ਕਹਾ ਮਨ ਮਾਨਨਿ ਕੋ ਮਨੋ ਮੋਹਿ ਲਿਯੋ ਹੈ ॥੧੦॥

‘Please come quick, what are you thinking, you have won over the heart of the sage’s wife.’(10)

 

ਕ੍ਰੋਰਿ ਕ੍ਰਲਾਪ ਕਰੈ ਕਮਲਾਛਣਿ ਦ੍ਯੋਸ ਨਿਸਾ ਕਬਹੂੰ ਨਹਿ ਸੋਵੈ ॥

ਸਾਂਪਿਨ ਜ੍ਯੋ ਸਸਕੈ ਛਿਤ ਊਪਰ ਲੋਕ ਕੀ ਲਾਜ ਸਭੈ ਹਠਿ ਖੋਵੇ ॥

ਹਾਰ ਸਿੰਗਾਰ ਧਰੈ ਨਹਿ ਸੁੰਦਰਿ ਆਂਸ੍ਵਨ ਸੌ ਸਸਿ ਆਨਨ ਧੋਵੈ ॥

ਬੇਗਿ ਚਲੋ ਬਨਿ ਬੈਠੇ ਕਹਾ ਤਵ ਮਾਰਗਿ ਕੋ ਮੁਨਿ ਮਾਨਿਨ ਜੋਵੈ ॥੧੧॥

ਬਾਤ ਤਪੀਸ੍ਵਰਨਿ ਕੀ ਸੁਨਿ ਬਾਸਵ ਬੇਗਿ ਚਲਿਯੋ ਜਹਾ ਬਾਲ ਬਿਹਾਰੈ ॥

The Lord, conceding to this lady’s request, started to walk to the place where that Lady was.

 

ਬੀਰੀ ਚਬਾਇ ਸੁ ਬੇਖ ਬਨਾਇ ਸੁ ਬਾਰਹਿ ਬਾਰ ਸਿੰਗਾਰ ਸਵਾਰੈ ॥

She had taken the beetle-nuts and had commenced embellishing herself, too.

 

ਘਾਤ ਪਛਾਨਿ ਚਲਿਯੋ ਤਿਤ ਕੌ ਮੁਨਿ ਸ੍ਰਾਪ ਕੇ ਤਾਪ ਝੁਕੈ ਝਿਝਕਾਰੈ ॥

Afraid of getting sage’s curse, he walked very cautiously,

 

ਜਾਇ ਸਕੈ ਹਟਿਹੂੰ ਨ ਰਹੈ ਮਤਵਾਰੇ ਕੀ ਭਾਂਤਿ ਡਿਗੈ ਡਗ ਡਾਰੈ ॥੧੨॥

Also as, on the one hand he was dreaded and, on the other, there was the lover’s allurement.(12)

ਬੇਗਿ ਮਿਲੋ ਮਨ ਭਾਵਿਤ ਭਾਵਨਿ ਪ੍ਯਾਰੇ ਜੂ ਆਜੁ ਤਿਹਾਰੇ ਭਏ ਹੈਂ ॥

ਭੇਟਨ ਕੌ ਮਹਿਰਾਜ ਸਮੈ ਮੁਨਿ ਰਾਜ ਧਿਯਾਨ ਮੌ ਆਜੁ ਗਏ ਹੈਂ ॥

ਮੀਤ ਅਲਿੰਗਨ ਚੁੰਬਨ ਆਸਨ ਭਾਂਤਿ ਅਨੇਕਨ ਆਨਿ ਲਏ ਹੈਂ ॥

ਮੋਦ ਬਢਿਯੋ ਮਨ ਭਾਮਨਿ ਕੇ ਮੁਨਿ ਜਾ ਚਿਤ ਤੇ ਬਿਸਰਾਇ ਦਏ ਹੈਂ ॥੧੩॥

 

ਦੋਹਰਾ ॥

Dohira

ਬਨ੍ਯੋ ਠਨ੍ਯੋ ਸੁੰਦਰ ਘਨੋ ਤੀਨਿ ਲੋਕ ਕੋ ਰਾਇ ॥

In came the orchestrator of three domains (Indra), dressed handsomely,

ਬਾਸਵ ਸੋ ਪਤਿ ਪਾਇ ਤ੍ਰਿਯ ਮੁਨਿਹਿ ਦਯੋ ਬਿਸਰਾਇ ॥੧੪॥

And by accepting him as her husband, she disregarded the sage.(14)

 

ਸਵੈਯਾ ॥

Savaiyya

ਸ੍ਰੋਨਨ ਮੋ ਖਰਕੋ ਸੁਨਿ ਕੈ ਤਬ ਹੀ ਮੁਨਿ ਨਾਯਕ ਚੌਕਿ ਪਰਿਯੋ ਹੈ ॥

Hearing the tidings, the supreme of the sages was astonished,

 

ਧਿਯਾਨ ਦਿਯੋ ਤਜਿ ਕੇ ਸਭ ਹੀ ਤਬ ਹੀ ਰਿਸ ਕੇ ਤਨ ਸਾਥ ਜਰਿਯੋ ਹੈ ॥

Abandoning all his tasks, he flew into a rage,

 

ਧਾਮ ਕੀ ਓਰ ਚਲਿਯੋ ਉਠਿ ਕੈ ਸੁਰ ਰਾਜ ਲਖਿਯੋ ਤਰ ਖਾਟ ਦੁਰਿਯੋ ਹੈ ॥

He walked over to that house, and, seeing him, Indra hid under the bed.

 

ਚੌਕਿ ਰਹਿਯੋ ਚਿਤ ਮਾਝ ਕਹਿਯੋ ਯਹ ਕਾਹੂੰ ਨਿਲਾਜ ਕੁਕਾਜ ਕਰਿਯੋ ਹੈ ॥੧੫॥

And he thought some shameless person had committed a hideous misdeed.(15)

 

ਦੋਹਰਾ ॥

Dohira

 

ਰਿਖਿ ਗੋਤਮ ਰਿਸਿ ਕੈ ਕਹਿਯੋ ਕੋ ਆਯੋ ਇਹ ਧਾਮ ॥

Rishi Gautam, in fury, asked who had come to this house.

 

ਤਬ ਤਿਹ ਅਸ ਉਤਰ ਦਿਯੋ ਰਿਖਹਿ ਬਿਹਸਿ ਕਰਿ ਬਾਮ ॥੧੬॥

Then the wife responded laughingly,(16)

 

ਚੌਪਈ ॥

Chaupaee

 

ਮਾਂਜਾਰ ਇਹ ਠਾਂ ਇਕ ਆਯੋ ॥

ਤਮੁ ਕੌ ਹੇਰਿ ਅਧਿਕ ਡਰ ਪਾਯੋ ॥

‘A cat came in and it got dreaded so much on seeing you,

 

ਚਿਤ ਅਤਿ ਤ੍ਰਸਤ ਖਾਟ ਤਰ ਦੁਰਿਯੋ ॥

ਮੈ ਮੁਨਿ ਜੂ ਤੁਹਿ ਸਾਚੁ ਉਚਰਿਯੋ ॥੧੭॥

‘That it hid under the bed. My dear Rishi, I am telling you the truth.’(17)

 

ਤੋਟਕ ਛੰਦ ॥

Totak Chhand

 

ਮੁਨਿ ਰਾਜ ਕਛੁ ਨਹਿ ਭੇਦ ਲਹਿਯੋ ॥

ਤ੍ਰਿਯ ਜੋ ਕਿਯ ਸੋ ਪਤਿ ਸਾਥ ਕਹਿਯੋ ॥

Munni Raj could not revel and whatever the woman said, he accepted,

 

ਮਾਂਜਾਰ ਦੁਰਿਯੋ ਇਹ ਖਾਟ ਤਰੈ ॥

ਜਨੁ ਬਾਸਵ ਕੀ ਸਭ ਸੋਭ ਧਰੈ ॥੧੮॥

‘This cat, which is gone under the bed, just think, it is earning all the praises like (Lord) Indra.’(18)

 

ਇਹ ਆਜਿ ਮੁਨੀ ਜਿਨਿ ਕੋਪ ਕਰੋ ॥

ਗ੍ਰਿਹਤੀ ਜੁਤ ਜਾਨਿ ਰਹਿਯੋ ਤੁਮਰੋ ॥

‘Please, Munni, don’t be angry at this cat as it has come to stay here considering it as a (nice) household.

 

ਤੁਮ ਜਾਇ ਤਿਹੀ ਗ੍ਰਿਹ ਹੋਮ ਕਰੋ ॥

ਰਘੁਬੀਰ ਕਿ ਨਾਮਹਿ ਕੋ ਉਚਰੋ ॥੧੯॥

‘You better go away from the house, conduct an oblation and meditate upon the God’s Name.’(19)

 

ਸੁਨਿ ਬੈਨ ਤਹੀ ਮੁਨਿ ਜਾਤ ਭਯੋ ॥

ਰਿਖਿ ਨਾਰਿ ਸੁਰੇਸ ਨਿਕਾਰਿ ਦਯੋ ॥

Accepting this, the Rishi went away and the woman took Indra out.

 

ਕਈ ਦ੍ਯੋਸ ਬਿਤੇ ਤਿਹ ਭੇਦ ਸੁਨ੍ਯੋ ॥

ਅਤਿ ਹੀ ਰਿਸਿ ਕੈ ਨਿਜੁ ਸੀਸੁ ਧੁਨ੍ਯੋ ॥੨੦॥

A few days passed by and the Rishi learnt about the secret and shook his head in dismay.(20)

 

ਤਬ ਹੀ ਰਿਸਿ ਕੈ ਰਿਖਿ ਸ੍ਰਾਪ ਦਿਯੋ ॥

ਸੁਰ ਨਾਯਕ ਕੌ ਭਗਵਾਨ ਕਿਯੋ ॥

Then the sage invoked a curse and made Indra’s body abounded with vulva.

 

ਭਗ ਤਾਹਿ ਸਹੰਸ੍ਰ ਭਏ ਤਨ ਮੈ ॥

ਤ੍ਰਿਦਸੇਸ ਲਜਾਇ ਰਹਿਯੋ ਮਨ ਮੈ ॥੨੧॥

With thousands of vulvas in his body, extremely ashamed, Indra left for the jungle.(21)

 

ਦੋਹਰਾ ॥

Dohira

ਸ੍ਰਾਪ ਦਿਯੈ ਤ੍ਰਿਯ ਕੌ ਬਹੁਰਿ ਜੋ ਤੈ ਕਿਯੋ ਚਰਿਤ੍ਰ ॥

Then he cursed the woman for conducting such a vile Chritar,

 

ਤੈ ਪਾਹਨ ਕੀ ਚਾਰਿ ਜੁਗ ਹੋਹਿ ਸਿਲਾ ਅਪਵਿਤ੍ਰ ॥੨੨॥

That she turned into stone statue and remained there for four epochs.(22)(1)

 

ਇਤਿ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਚਰਿਤ੍ਰ ਪਖ੍ਯਾਨੇ ਤ੍ਰਿਯਾ ਚਰਿਤ੍ਰੇ ਮੰਤ੍ਰੀ ਭੂਪ ਸੰਬਾਦੇ ਇਕ ਸੌ ਪੰਦ੍ਰਹਵੋ ਚਰਿਤ੍ਰ ਸਮਾਪਤਮ ਸਤੁ ਸੁਭਮ ਸਤੁ ॥੧੧੫॥੨੨੬੧॥ਅਫਜੂੰ॥

115th Parable of Auspicious Chritars Conversation of the Raja and the Minister, Completed With Benediction. (115)(2259)

On 5/27/2020 at 9:48 AM, ipledgeblue said:

Then there should be regular langar there where different kinds of sangat comes there, including the poor of the pend.

 

In my village all the choorhe have become christians. There are 4 churches in my village. Whenever there is a program that involves langar at the Gurdwara, the choorhe stand outside at a distance from the gurdwara. When the diwan is completed and sangat come to the langar-khana the choorhe join them to eat. They absolutely do not come to sangat. Saw it with my own eyes.

Got quite a few things going there Dal. Thanks for the aphids tip. Will try that as they can affect fruit trees. Ants don't seem to be a problem though.

Good work on recycling that wood! I recently constructed a barbell stand with the wood that from our old porch. It had begun to sink, so we had roof replaced. Had a lot of wood from that so decided to use it for a mini-project. Built myself a 4 rack barbell stand. Have around 120 kgs on it. It is quite solid.

Gardening has been a bit of a washout for me this year. Having caught the damned corona virus in the months where I would have been doing the garden means that I have missed the proverbial bus. Will just be concentrating on my fruit trees this year. But it will give me an opportunity to clear the soil of weeds etc more thoroughly this year.

I have been informed that giving the garden a rest from planting/growing every few years is also very beneficial for it.

On 5/18/2020 at 11:24 AM, ipledgeblue said:

I started a discussion about this being a bujjar kurahit.

Well done for standing up. It's a shame that sikh student groups like BOSS even, prefer to support vegetarianism rather than take a stand against halal.

Dammit. Another video I wanted to watch but this hindi is making my ears bleed.

55 minutes ago, Soulfinder said:

Veer ji our purtan itihasic granths such as Suraj Parkash, Guru Nanak Parkash, Panth Parkash etc have all the saakhis which can be used to fight these Anti Sikh converting groups. 

The problem in villages throughout Panjab, is the gurdwaras are dead. People go to gurdwara sproadically throughout the day, as some kind of good luck charm. There are rarely diwans held, and even then people still find excuses not to attend. Having too many gurdwaras in one village doesn't help either.

People from villages would rather go to Darbar Sahib/Anandpur Sahib once every few months than go daily to the Gurdwara in their village.

 

On 4/12/2020 at 12:56 PM, dalsingh101 said:

 

In this video, the Sikhs tried to defend themselves with swords against ak-47s. That's not going to work.

Khalsa Aid could be helping the Afghan Sikhs rather than the rohingyas or syrians, where international agencies are already placed. But it won' t fit their media profile to do so.

 

On 4/6/2020 at 6:15 PM, kdsingh80 said:

Waiting for abuse from madman who was pretending to speak behalf of all Afghan Sikh's that they don't want to leave Afghanistan

 

There are some Afghan Sikhs, and many other Sikhs living outside Afghan, who in their hearts wish to see some Sikh presence in Afghan, because of our history there. We have already seen this in Pakistan after partition.Those Sikhs know that once out of the country, return will be very difficult and the assets of those Sikhs, will be appropriated by the afghans.

I was always of the opinion that the Sikhs should be more prepared and armed in a country awash with weapons. Afghan is reputed to be a country where there are more weapons than people.

Dammit, all his videos are in hindi. Can't stand to listen to that.

 

Whats shocking is how gullible and desperate people are converted to other religions, whilst not really improving their lives in any way.

Some 150 years ago, in a united Panjab, many lowcastes became christians in the hope that their position in society would be elevated but they are still where they were before conversion.

 

If these preachers could heal non-functioning kidneys, do you think that there would be any need for 6 years of study, an immense financial outlay, and then working day-to-day to pay that off?

Thanks for posting it .