SURYADEV

Ok lets see how technocratic you guys are:

I want to start typing in gurmuki/panjabi script. I know that quite a few peeps on are able to do it on this forum.

What do I need to download so I can write on this forum and also on other document packages such as MS word, Open Office Writer etc?

Panic over.

All sorted.

So to put simply its a study of other cultures but with a presumption that any good/positive in that culture originates from a western/euro source?

Is this different from the study of subjeccts like Egyptology , Indology etc? Or is the pre-supposition of the 'ologies different?

KALVATTI.

I thought I'd heard that word before somewhere, but just realised its the word KOLAVERI.

As in 'Why this kolaveri di?'

Thise is where I 've heard it:

LOL

What Chatanga said. its not about what you eat its how you go about obtaining that foodstuff.

Biologically/evolutionary wise, we eat whats available to us in our environment. Its all about surviving long enough to replicate/reproduce. If you live in extreme environs as many cultures do (deserts, arctic, jungles even you must eat what nature gives you at that place and time.

There a the mongal nomads who only eat 90% yaks milk and meat beacuase thats all they have. In their brief summers they may get some greens for a short time to supplament their diet. In jungles of SE Asia the tribes can only get their protein source from insects and reptiles. In Arctic regions those guys eat predominantly fat-based diet. In the one of the most malnourished parts of the world they eat articifial foods that contain minimal nutrients but have enough macro-nutrients to ward off hunger. Thats in the Amercia.

The poor guys eating grubs, animals and naturally grown plant foods have much better health than Europeans/Americans.

DOH!!

Havent you unddertod a word Uncle Anwar has said?

I need to go back and listen again.

But you implying he/you prefers something stronger? desi or angrezi?

Please explain.

Oh cheers guys for putting up a transcript of this poetry. Sheer class.

I'll buy you guys a drink one day. lassi , chai or koffee?

Jathedar , is animal cruelty any different from the negative aspects of veggie farmming?

Eg the fertilisers, pesticides, growth drugs injected into plants foods (ie exploding melons in china/india), hormone useage in agriculture(dipping fruits into waxy-like substance to give it a gleaming shine), soil erosion due to intensive farming - just look at parts of the world turniing into desert because of this, hell even farmers getting diseased due to carelessness or ignorance of health and safety.

veggies Bringing up animal crulety vids, reports etc as a trump card just doesn't work.

What does Orientalist mean?

Its oft been mentioned here. I thought it was someone who makes a career/passion of studying or learning about anything to do with the Eastern world.

But here its seems to hold somewhat negative connotations.

Could someone please explain the whole concept.

then again not all buddists are veggies. some/many do eat meat to some extent.

Jathedarji I'm having a blonde day today, must be the cold getting to me. Can you explain how did I contradict myself?

One of my favourite of English authors.

Anyway heres an article about him and Maharani Jindan:

http://duleepsingh.com/News.aspx?Id=23

Charles Dickens & the Maharani of Lahore 2/6/2012

After hearing of the death of Maharani Jind Kaur, novelist Charles Dickens visited Kensal Green Cemeteray to see the coffin of the lady whom the British Empire feared. Read his account of the visit from old publications...

July 1863, writer and author Charles Dickens visited Kensal Green cemetery. A couple of weeks later he heard that Maharani Jind Kaur died at Abingdon House and her service and temporary burial in the catacoomb of Kensal Green Dissenter's Chapel was arranged by her son Maharajah Duleep SIngh.

On the 19th September 1863, Charles Dickens wrote the following two remarks in his weekly journal "All the Year Round":

"I have read in the papers of the Indian Princess brought here the other day, and whose remains some of her Sikh servants wished to have burnt. The coffin was placed in the Dissenters' catacomb, and though a speech was delivered on the virtues of the deceased, the burial is described in the company's registery book by the words "no ceremony". It was a large funeral with many carriages."

Later in the article Dickens writes:

I asked to be taken to the Dissenters' catacomb, that I may see for myself the last resting place of the poor woman whose ashes have been squabbled over, and written on by Sikh and Christian. And down here, in a coffin covered with white velvet, and studded with brass and nails, rests the Indian dancing woman whose strong will and bitter emnity towards England caused Lord Dalhousie to say of her, when in exile, that she was the only person our government near feared. I place my hand on the coffin, and holding the candle obliquely, see a large gilt plate, whereon her name and titles are engraved."

Courtesy of Friends of Kensal Green Cemetery

......and I suspect many on this forum use fixo on their dharis, yet call themselves sabat soorat, michalin tyre by dunlop tyre SInghs.

What Bipran ki Reet???!!!

Nah bro , ur safe .

we're on sa.com: everyone on here is a meat eating sanatanist, kala afghani, bhangra dancing, closet whiskey drinking, anti-khalistani, congress voting, pro-Euro, Gingrich supporting, late night Leno watching instead of nam japping posters.

Oh and many members here also go swimming!!!!! (such manmatting jooth drinking, sexual activity it is)

So no-one here is gonna judge you for cooking and eating a poor , innocent chicken just so you can satisfy your tongue!

when you do perfect you recipe for your chicken palak curry make sure to invite us round.

Can I use the homemade stuff just like the packet stuff in cooking? Or will it drastically alter the taste of my legendary chicken palak curry?

Yea Sure you can. It'll actually give a much better depth to the taste of your chicken palak.

If you want to get into drying meat, herbs and spices in a big way you can get dehydrators to do the job. I think they look a bit like microwaves.

As a Greek friend of mine would say:

"Vegetarianism is a luxury that only the rich can afford!"

Just ponder that for a while. Is sikhi out of reach for the poor man on edge of society because he cannot afford to buy high carb veggie foods?

In a similar vein I joke with my Namdhari friend that Kookaism is only for the wealthy, ie. only those who can afford to continously buy new bright white clothes and Daz washing powder in bulk! lol

I've downloaded SAMARKAN and PRAKATA fonts from the net. Its saved as zip files on my computer.

What do I do now so that I can write using these fonts?

you cannot say meat causes disease outright. There illnesses caused by veggie or plant foods. Due to its handling/growing processes.

What causes illness is the industrial foods we eat for convenience. Those Devoid of fibre, nutrients, enzymes, phytochemicals. In the west even veggies or vegans suffer from ill health, all due to the unnatural, over processed shyte we down our mouths. Then we counteract all the negatives of that by taking medication etc which in turn has their own sides.

In modern society, the industrial foods we eat whether plants, grains or meat are pumped full of chemicals that cause us harm. Its just that because the harm it causes isn't overt, or dramatic or the effects take place over years people just don't see the link.

DM recently had an article about a 17yr old girl who ate nothing but McChicken Nuggets......since she was a toddler! She was apparantly fine for all these years. But now was taken to hospital when she fell ill with breathing difficulties.

This is true though, this seems to happen so there are gay happenings, but is it Homo or is it more like what happens in prisons, where this stuff is seen as dominant males as opposed to sexuality. I think it happebns due to lack of contact with females.

Its called the Harem Effect. Whereby sex segregation occurs (prisons, religious orders, military, boarding schools) over a period of time. Those males or females start exhibiting homosexual tendancies and start having sexual relations with others of the same sex. But once they rejoin others of the opposite sex they revert to hetrosexuality. It is simply so that they can satisfy base carnal desires.

I read an article by a German academic about this stuff with the Panjabi fauji community in Germany. Because they cannot mix in with the wider society (inc females) they start shagging each other out of neccesity. Sleeping two plus to a bed doesn't help either. When they return back home they become 'normal' hetro guys. I'm sure it was posted on this forum.

The term comes from the lesbianism that was practiced by women in the harems of the Ottoman Empire. because they didn't come into contact with any men.

Also, they haven't twigged onto the advantages of dropping a pinch of ground black pepper into the mix either....btw.

Shhhh....keep it quiet, mate.

Yep, the homemade stuff should be very dark yellow, almost brownish in colour. Also the aroma is noticeably a lot stronger.

Though I don't know where you will actually get the plant from. I've never seen it myself. I'm not sure that the North Euro climate is warm enough to grow it.

But worth a try. If you succeed.... go commercial, perhaps name your company WestEnd Foods? Natural organic whole foods.

I blame the ISI!!!

Can I submit this for evidence please?

Have we found the holy grail of the 'pure stuff'?

I'm not stating the stuff you buy here is not 100%.

Its the manufacturing process.

The stuff you get in packets. The raw haldi plant is boiled, dried then ground down into powder.

The kachi-haldi is simply sun-dried and then ground into powder. The boiling (which destroys vital phyto-nutrients and enzymes) process is omitted.

No way!!! i aint stepping barefoot in dogturds mate!

You Gora!

If you were back home you wouldn't think twice. LOL

Cheerrs for that Sevadaar.

Will look into it.

Thanks for the info Chatanga.

Though you can throw all the pro-meat or neutral-meat Sikh history at Veggie Brigade. They are rigid in their ways, without any ability to look at other views.

SOund familiar? .....a bit like the some muslim fanatics.