SURYADEV

If all my friends usually go to KFC and I decide one day that I want to eat McD's then can I be blamed having a 'bad impact on community relations'?

Maybe Prof Kunjahi should ask his fellow muslims to stop imposing their dietary laws on others.

Out of curiosity.

How did Gurdev respond to the Border agents when they presumably patted him down? Did he simply flash his sharpened teeth at them?

And how did he manage to take all the shastar through customs?

Jai Jai Mahakal!

Jai Jai Mahakal ki Vidiya!

Jai Jai Mahakal ke Shagird!

Of course there is only one type of Sikh. That is the Amritshak, 5 k wearing type. open beard (male and female)only. Wears 'gurmukhi dastar'. He follows the the SGPC rehet fully.

But the others can be considered sikhs too............only when they want to pay big money for Akhand Paths or Langar, give daswand to gurdwaras, or donate supplies for the building works or join in pro-sikh marches or guard gurdwaras during riots. Until then they are not sikhs.

Interesting question about Bhai Nand Lal. Perhaps if you are on Facebook you can ask the gruop that gives daily quotes from his bani. https://www.facebook.com/Bhainandlal

Whats the source of the quote?

I dont know about the others, but Harjinder Lallie also teaches or did teach western stringed instruments.

I found him very forward thinking when I used to learn from him ie if he picked up a new teaching or performing methodology he would pass it on. (But that was in the early 1990's when I used to go to his house to learn)

Oh and Chatanga:

'Ji' keh'na ni sikhia after 'Sudocream Sahib'??

Ooopps

Bhul Chuk Maaf karni!

Sangat, please do ardas for this paapi

yes its called 'Sudocream'.

Apparently the Gutka Sahib is called 'Raag Rattan Sangeet' and it's by Prof Kuljit Singh ... A friend recommended it as they use it whilst learning to play different Raags with their Dilruba.

It's written in Gurmukhee and it goes into detailed knowledge of each Raag, the emotions the Raag brings about, Sur's along with the appropriate Shabad, etc.

I've never come across this before, so if anyone does happen to find it (or an alternative) then kindly let me know. Thanks!

Try chattar singh/jeevan singh publishers in Amritsar. They would be my 'go to' people for such hard to find books.

Then there are those who a suffering and hungry.

WHy shouldn't a person take food home to an elderly family member who cant make it to the gurdwara.

Should gurdwaras be making such decisions as to who can or cannot eat?

I think it was N30 who said the 4 states of a sikhs avastha:

Shariat, Marfat, Haqiqat etc etc.

Anyone know the meanings of these terms?

Also these words seem to come from Arabic. Is the philosophy behind it from islam(/sufiism) as well?

such as what surydev?

As shaheediyan just mentioned : baansri , also the beeni and that double 'beeni' like instrument. But also various drum-type instruments ie the gaghar.

I know ifs often done in India , but it seems a recent trend in the uk.

I 've seen notices on a few gurdwaras here 'banning' it as its against the 'maryada'.

Only ever come across Amar Kirtan and Amrit Kirtan.

BTW

I understand TAANTI SAAJ to mean STRINGED INSTRUMENTS.

So in grmat sangeet does this exclude all other classical and folk instruments?

True

talk about 'feeding the fed' and 'mutual back slapping'.

Though having said that as a kid I used to see an Arab musalman doing seva at Smethwick GNG.

i know he was an Arab coz used to go to school with his grand daughter.

No I haven't been their to learn. Though I did think that their classes took place Sunday mornings. I would contact them first before popping down, incase no one is there.

Re. the instruments. i'd say wait until you start learning and then ask your teacher to recommend suppliers. He/she will be able to guide you better in terms of what to look for a price wise.

I've often heard of people doing this in the past - which I believe to be the norm. Even I did this.

But, of late I have been seeing posters around langar halls that actually state it is 'against Sikh Rehat Maryada' to take food away from the langar.

Just realised there is a supposed 'maryada' that we cannot take food away from the langar. We can only eat there and then.

So that puts a dampener on people taking food for their families at home.

Many would have heard from news channel about the mushrooming growth of food banks in the UK/Europe.

Whereas two or three years ago there were just a few dozen in the UK, now there are a few hundred and growing fast.

My question is are there any gurdwaras in the UK that have set up a similar system to help feed their local (non-sikh) community?

I would have thought that with the langar system up and running gurdwaras would be at the forefront of helping local communities. But I havn't heard of any gurdwaras taking the initiative here.

Try the naamdhari gurdwara in B'ham - but only if you want the best!

otherwise try your local gurdwara.

otherwise no better way to prepare or get started than to find a good Guru. anything you do beforehand is just procrastination.

Strongest, fittest , weak etc hold varying meanings depending on time, and circumstance. Its very subjective. In one age muscles are a strength in another age it is intellect, but always common sense . WHich is anything but 'common.'

Khalsa like all other groups are subject to natures laws. If they are worth it or deserving they will survive and thrive; otherwise just like all other groups since the beginning of time they will perish and give way to something better.

Om Shanti, Shanti, Shanti'h.

That is the basic law of nature, life and the universe. Nothing else.

Welcome to the sa.com forum KGM.

I always knew these ramgarhia folk had tons of money.

I would assume that they will get this built and then it will be empty diwan halls until SUnday mornings. I wonder if they can fill such large 'temples of money and power'?

Oh well I'm sure its a good financial investment for them.

monkeys diggin pits and putting other monkeys in. what next.

monkeys wearing burka and not allowing Mrs Monkey out without a male family companion.