SURYADEV

Why is there a need to burn your hair , as opposed to just binning it?

Sarcasm is a low form of humour, as you may very well now, so nothing to brag about there..

....Ahh someone familiar with Wilde! Not that I was bragging about my level of wit.

Jest is fine, but as I said not at the expense of my Guru. I can't stop you, but I can voice my disapproval, which you will hopefully be humble enough to try and understand.

Understood, i will try not to make similar remarks in the future.

1. LOL ...the lack of awareness of 'sarcasm'! Peeps we are adults here with some intelligence (possibly). I know it a written forum, but at least know when a post is written in jest. Don't go getting your kacheras in a twist!

2. The panth isn't in a mess because of people who can laugh at themselves. That dubious honour goes to those who take every thing toooo seriously, which in turn leads to fundamentalist attitudes that we have seen growing over the years. Who is this Guru that you follow that gets undermined by my assertions on the 'net?

3. I would advice you guys to take a chill pill and not take offence at every little thing that is written on here. I am sure your Sikhi is not that weak that every thing offends you. What I was not expecting was a Wahabbist attitude that you need to defend your God and your beliefs . If you can't take my opinons here what will you do when Behezti 2 comes to a theatre near you or a Sikh version of 'Love Guru'?

Any ways, soz boz if I hurt your sentiments.

I believe JATTS are the superior race in India. The whole Khalsa Panth rests on a Jatts shoulders , hence the reason they are so strong. Even Shiva Ji had the courtesy to raise Jatts above himself ie. His jatt'n hair!

God's hukum was that after the masands failed to look after the gurudwaras he has to give the responsibility to a group of people who will rise to the challenge and resist the temptation for putting their hands into the golak; as a result he willed that Jatts should dominate the SGPC.

Jai , Jai SuperJatts!!

PS: Almost all critism of Jatts are by all other lower castes who due to their lack of good karam were not born as Jatts.

Jai Hind

What is the reason behind some nihangs wearing huuuumongouuuuuus dumallas?

From what I can see it is nothing but a hindereance to ones daily duties. eg I suppose they cant bow down, they are slowed down because of the weight and no way can they reach half the weapons placed in their turbans!

Baba Ji once said that there are 24 different meanings for the word RAHAO in the GGS. Could you find out what some of these meanings are?

Also there is a granth out written by a Nirmala Pandit that gives over 500 definitions of the word WAHEGURU. Could you find out the title and author of this piece of work?

Thenking ju bery thee much in de adbance!

Fateh Darshan!

Isn't 'NAM DHRIR' technique or 'sas gras' or 'sas sas' or any other technique just a form of PRANAYAM of Patanjali's Yog Sutr - as used by Pandit Jagjit SIngh Ji and other people of other sampardas?

And in the name of equality and equal opportunity can a guy do this technique with a girl?? (If so, where do I sign to join up?LOL soz I just had to ask.Me and my lustful thoughts!)

As an aside, when I was attending AKJ ren sabhais as a kid I saw this happen for the first time, and the shock.....! Almost a frightning experience to watch and listen to it for an outsider.

is that sas grag type of simran they are doing in the background? If so , what is the thinking and technique used by muslims to do simran??

Is the Jori an invention by the 5th guru? And was it adapted from the dholki style pakwaj thingy?

Why is clapping so frowned upon amongst the sikhs? Is it a religious objection or cultural?

I understand that the old babe were straining in their Kacheras when Nusrat Sahib and Co started clapping at their Southall gurdwara performance.

Also the fact that qwalli doesn't go down well with sangat says more about their lack of experience/knowledge about music than anything else. Most Sikhs have been bought up with the base style of semi-classical music that is performed at HArmandir Sahib (as seen on satelite channels). Anything different from this is probs seen as 'anti-gurmat' or not 'as per gurmat maryada' (two of the most popular phrases amongst Sikhs today?!), or just plain boring!

THe trend of a violent Political Religion is not just with Islam. SIkhs and other religions are also jumping on the bandwagon. Just look at the Khalistani issue, anti-Ram Rahim/Radhasoami or any other minority groups that mainstream Sikhs dislike and victimize. Look at the Piara Singh (Bhavsagar Granth) attacks by Tyarbar Tyar Singhs; Birmingham Rep Theatre protests. And many more troubles created (, inmy opinion) by Sikhs.

Instead of following a spiritual path we are playing the 'them and us' Power Game. Believe me when I say SIkhism of today is a violent and aggresive form of Sikhism too. Just take a look at your local temple on Sundays or pop down to Central London in early JUne to watch the '1984' tamasha that takes place there.

Its all about "panthic ekta" or unity, mate. What better way of unifying our youth than by creating a real or imagined external enemy! Its worked for all other communities, dictators and religious fundamentalists. Why not for us?

'We are better than them!', 'they are out to destry us!', 'we must keep our identity seperate.!'

I do not know of any onlinie versions of Koka Shastra but you can buy copy through Amazon, or just try your local library: they should be able to get hold of a copy through their network.

To those guys -and girls who say that Gurus were against kam, I have a question: How on earth do you gain an erection without any form of lust in your mind to arouse you....even if just 'procreating'? For the girls , would lack of kam/lust not make love-making painful or just plain uncomfortable? Maybe you people can lie back and think of England...or Panjab!! But for me (and many other chardi-kala Singhs and Singhnian) we need lust for when we make our Khalsa Fauj.

When choosing your Bibian to get married , if you didn't look at their beauty and the pleasures you both could have together(ie use kaam) did you base your choice on caste, their wealth, family background etc?

I'm not trying to be critical or sarcastic but just trying to understand the puritanical mind of some of our fellows.

OK folks ,

lets not start a slagging match about who stood who up. just enjoy her voice!

Maybe the Sikhi Camp was a bad date!!! LOL

I have heard on the sangat-vine that Pandit Jagjit Singh Ji Nirmala are in the UK, currently in Wolves.

Anyone know what their plans are????

Luvs and Kisses to all!!! xxx

Any one????

It is said that Baba Deep Singh Ji hand wrote four copies of the SGGS and sent them to the four takhats. Furthermore, they also wrote a copy off the SGGS in ARABIC and sent it to Baghdad, Iraq.

From my understanding that copy was until recently kept at the Baghdad National Museum or Library (don't know which one). During the US 'shock and awe' bombing of Iraq these institutions and there contents were heavily damaged. In the aftermath, whatever was left was destroyed or looted by the mobs.

What I'd like to know is does anyone know what happened to the SGGS kept there, does it still exist?

Regards,

Queens Own Fauji.

Mithr

What was so special with the Puraatan Singhs that made them so strong? Did they eat whole chatka'd goats or practice yoga and pranayam?

Gsinghysingh

What do you mean by "be proper sikhs"? Maybe the way sikhs exist now is how they have always been and is its normal state?!

Koka Shastra is a granth based on the Kama Sutra. From my understanding, whereas the later is a treatise on the whole man/woman relationship in society the Koka Shastra has dispensed with the ethics and ideals and deals strictly with technical love-making and how both sexes can provide pleasure for each other.

All these books come under the heading of Kama Shastra, and include the Ananga Ranga and Ratirahasya as well.

Modern translations are available including western authored simplified versions that only deal with sex postions, kissing etc.

I Highly recommend people dispense with their shyness and inhibitions and read these books if only to enhance their relationships.

Happy Love-Making (whether by the front door back door!!!) LOL

S'pose SV, archery and horsemanship are just too time consuming and effortful for todays Sikhs. WHy put the effort into learning such skills when you can carry a double barrelled shotgun, swing a sword around you... very fast! and travel by TATA Sumo? These are easier to learn and look more impressive.

In most historical martial arts medicine has always been integral part of the training. With this Sikh version of morris dancing, how many practitioners know what to do when they hit themselves with a sword, either First Aid or Desi Dwaiy/Ayurved?

Khuda Hafiz!

FAteh all,

I would like to know if there are any contemporary evidence - either Sikh or Mughal/Afghan sources- on whether Baba Deep Singh actually fought with there severed head in their hand and finally threw it the distance from where they fell to the edge of the sarovar? Or is it just simply mithihaas made up in the years after by the sikhs?

???? Why would anyone want to jump out of a perfectly normal airbourne plane......I do not know?!?! LOL

Just remember to pack your own chute.

Is it tandem or solo??

Fateh all,

Just to be pedantic and because I have a few minutes to kill; I'd like to clarify that it is HARKHOWAL WALE not HARKHOWALE as many people state.

WE WOZ ROBBED, GUV!!!

HOw on earth did that young dancer manage to win??!! Out of the final three Signature were the best.! Yet other exceptional acts didn't even get into the final three...such as Escala - what talent and Faryll.

If we look generally at these talent shows over the past years we see that those who win seldom make it big in the long term but those also ran are the names we hear the following year and in Xmas charts.