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Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal!
Dear all and Ragmaala Jee!
You wrote "Guru Nanak Dev ji instructs us to repeat name of the Lord , lakhs of times, eventually after repeating and repeating it multiplies,"
Guru Naanak Dev Jee is singing in ecstasy. He is saying One Naam Jagdeesh with awareness.
He has never suggested repeating the Hymn that your Baabaas call Mool Mantra for 125,000 times in forty days.
Quote "And by the way , why was a mala kept by Guru Arjun Dev ji , if it wasn't meant to show something to Sikhs, ?"
God has left that earthy body once called Guru Arjan Dev Jee long back. Strange, some are stuck up with the Maalaa claiming, He used it.
Quote "Obviously the mala wasn't for show , it was to be used for counting."
Are you sure He was counting Naam and needed help of a Maalaa?
Quote "Historically, this is the same mala that was found in Chandu's house."
He must be very rich with Naam who possesses this Maalaa now. What is about others who are not having this Maalaa?
Balbir Singh
You have your own interpretations. No one necessarily has to agree with you or follow what you think,
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Balbir Singh,
And by the way , why was a mala kept by Guru Arjun Dev ji , if it wasn't meant to show something to Sikhs, ?
Obviously the mala wasn't for show , it was to be used for counting.
Historically, this is the same mala that was found in Chandu's house.
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Kaljug Jee,
Is it really difficult to accept that you could not find one reference from the reverend Gurus suggesting reading Paath while counting.
Many fake Baabaas have made life earnings by suggesting reading Paaths while counting those.
Balbir Singh
Guru Nanak Dev ji instructs us to repeat name of the Lord , lakhs of times, eventually after repeating and repeating it multiplies, then a person repeats this Naam 24/7, its a state that Guru ji has described which only makapurakhs can understand who have done the same.
Hint , its in Japuji Sahib , I am sure you can find it.
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Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal!
Dear all and Kaljug Jee!
You wrote "There is a friend of the family who was asked to do Mul Mantra chalisa (125,000 Mul Mantra in 40 days) by Giani Thakur Singh when Giani Ji was visiting the UK."
The true Gurus say that God as Ananda is not received by counting.
Quote " . . . It seems an odd idea to me that more bhagti would somehow equate to more suffering."
But all true Bhagats are singing Ananda in total bliss. It seems they have no time for suffering.
Balbir Singh
Balbir Singh,
Everyone has to start from somewhere, whether it starts with counting or without, in the end goal is the same, and we all know the right direction, methods may differ,
We cant be bhagats just by birth, people start from somewhere, since we are not bhagats we cannot achieve anand just yet.
It seems to me that you are more talk than action.
If you have had the company of mahapurakhs they tell their devotees to start with counting, and Guru instructs us to listen to advice of such mahapurakhs.
But then again why am I telling you this.
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Thank you for the information
The Rehat maryada at www.gurmatveechar.com site states Akhand Path "should" be completed in 48 hours , does this mean the aim is 48 hours , but it can go over , but then the question arises Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is the living Guru for the Sikhs , then should we keep Guru Ji awake for more the 48 hours as continuous recital of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is done ?
If not , then speed surely matters ? and if speed matters , then reading too fast surely is not soothing to hear .
Also when reciting sri Guru granth Sahib ji , should it be done aloud until completion ?
When reciting Jap Ji Sahib , if Akhand has been completed , and your half way through reading the Jaap Ji Sahib , I assume it must be completed before the ardaas is done .
Wahe Guru Ji ka Khalsa Wahe Guru Ji Ke Fateh ?
I can guess only anubhavi mahapurakhs like Baba Ishar Singh and Baba Nand Singh ji can answer your questions.
We can only speculate.
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I believe chalisa can be tough to complete.
There is a shabad in Gurbani which mentions the three characteristics of Kalyug, one of this characteristic is that Kalyug doesn't let one's penance or tapa to finish successfully.
Whatever the reason, your friend will reap huge benefits when its done completely with Gurparsad!
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We must suffer one of the two pains: the pain of discipline or the pain of disappointment.
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When I listen to gurbani being read aloud and it is recited shud (correctly) I find real pleasure in that. MOST other times knowing that it is mis-pronounced, usually very badly and hate sitting there; refuse to listen to anymore and walk out holding the reader in contempt.
Is this a right attitude i have or gone wrong somewhere?
We Humans always demand goods of qood quality. If I go to Gurudwara, I would agree that I get the most benefit out of it and get the most pleasure out of it. So if a paathi is not reciting Gurbani shudh then it would certainly sound distaseful. So personally I dont see anything wrong with ur attitude but other people over here can point out more points.
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So basically you don't agree with the Akal Takhat edict?
I think what the Hukamnama states is that their parkash cannot be done on the same level, it doesnt say that you cannot have both parkashed at a same place , so i understand that Guru Granth Sahib ji always has to be on a higher level.
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Yes I agree
very powerful and thoughtful reply by SIngh.
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Quote "He is just telling how muslims at Mecca became such great devotees of Guru Nanak that they asked for his khadava , for worshipping them."
I thought Muslims do not worship sculptures or symbols.
Balbir Singh
I also thought non Muslim couldn't enter Mecca.
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If I loved someone I would not only worship my loved one but also hold the object that reminds me of my loved on in high regard.
Game of love cannot be explained with human logic, and its futile to even talk about it, just have to engage in it.
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What should Sikhs do now? Should they attach with Guru Naanak, his possessions or Nirankaar?
Balbir Singh
Sikhs attach with Guru Naanak ( Nirankar and Guru Nanak are the same) and naturally show devotion even for his sandals out of immense love.
I fail to understand your question of promotion ...?
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Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal!
Dear all!
Did Guru Naanak Dev Jee promote worship of wooden shoes?
Should Sikhs renew it if this wisdom is lost?
Please click the following link to listen.
Balbir Singh
Balbir Singh,
I think you have misunderstood. He is just telling how muslims at Mecca became such great devotees of Guru Nanak that they asked for his khadava , for worshipping them. This is all a play of love, humbleness and humility. This shows the love those Muslims had for Guru Nanak. It doesnt necessarily means an instruction for us. And I also feel some sarcasm in your question.
Now back to your question:
You asked if we should start worshipping Guru ji's sandals since it seems like a good idea?
Let me give you a scenario :
You have Guru Nanak sitting on a bed in one room
and You have his sandals at some other place ?
Who would you go to see and whom would you worship ?
I think I would go for Guru Nanak. Since we all have Guru Nanak we dont have to go to Mecca to start worshipping his Sandals.
And who is Guru Nanak? Guru Granth Sahib is Guru Nanak Himself, we attach with Him not with his possessions.
Nevertheless, I must also say that such objects or points of devotions like Sandals, Shasters of Gurus , their clothings and other belongings serve as a means of channeling one's love and devotion, and eventually meeting the Owner of these possessions.
SATSRIAKAL
GURBARAKAL
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more observations
pain and doubt and anxiety is fuel for naam japa/bhakti. just like ghee in a fire lamp. i remember reading a quote like this in Sri Guru Granth. anyone familiar with it?
Pain is medicine which comes in the form of Naam.
"Dukh Daaroo Sukh Rog Bhya"
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With every passing moment I realize how sinful I am , no matter how hard I try my each breath will be sinful. But Guru is all powerful , he has a different plan for every Gursikh and I am hopeful he has one for me as well.
And whatever he wants he gets it done by me.
My expectations are nill, but I am only hopeful ,
In the end all I want is His lotus feet to reside in my heart, given he has cleaned the heart himself before permanently residing there.
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After observing the debates I have observed that these so called anti dasam granth preachers are the prey of their own haumai. They think that they have the brains to interpret the agam agaadh baani of Sri Guru Granth Sahib , and use it as a tool for analyzing the complex baani of Baapu ji.
Our Baapu is a great philosopher, writer and poet. Even saying great is an insult to our baapu ji. He is beyond great...
Just because these fools fail to understand the deep subtleties they think they are right. You can't even teach them because their full of haumai minds wont listen to you but instead try to come up with counter arguments.
Mod's edit. No personal attack please.
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This is what I see, grey window.
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I am unable to view anything.
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These guys vocals are amazing, I used to think Bhai Nirmal Singh Khalsa and Bhai Gurmeet/Baljeet Singh (Namdhari) had 'the skills' until I came across this Raagi - he blows them out of the water!
This is a little bit of a technical example - but his CDs are absolutley wonderful and compositions beautiful - I would recommend them.
Have fun - and yes, they are really doing that with their voices - gamaks from the planet Krypton!
I must say very strong and well trained vocal chords, impressive.
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His Saain song is very beautiful!
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In Guru Granth Sahib Ji, there are often references to a stone named 'Paras' which has the ability to convert iron into gold provided that there is not even a thin sheet of paper that separates the stone and the iron.
So my question arising from my limited knowledge that alchemy involves transmutation of one element to another is : Is 'Paras' a concept in alchemy? Many modern scientists have refuted the alchemists claims, was it the failure of their understanding to fully comprehend the subject ?
Discuss.
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Excellent translation and seva
Good Stuff
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People who are against Dasam Granth , Did they ever bother asking Guru Sahib instead of using their own brains ? Did they ever try abhyaas of Gurmantar and Even Moolmantar , have they felt the bliss or is it just dry knowledge without any rass, true knowledge comes from inside not from books and useless arguing, it comes with humbleness not with egoistic brains, do some bhagti and then try to come up with answers
Paath Causing Karmic Backlash?
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The blunder is to accumulate so much ego that one fails to understand the respect that Guru has given to his bhagats and real sants.