7 hours ago, Singh2022 said:

Are almost 1.2 billion Hindu's to all be collectively held responsible for the actions of Nehru, Indira and Rajiv?

This is it. But simple minded juts amongst our lot have to use this narrative to keep their own shitty biraderi 'united'. Which it never really is.  

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I do agree with you that Zail Sin was the sell out pioneer behind pushing the apartheid Gurdwara's concept overseas as it is common knowledge that Zail Sin insisted on Ramgarhia memberships being apartheid based.

I don't think you know what you are talking about. That started in Africa way before by the looks of it. Where tarkhans and lohars (and others) finally got their own space from jut stupidity. 

We talked about this a few years ago, I told you then, most juts are only interested in taking over Gurdwaras to push their own agendas and grab any income coming in for themselves. Like masands, so they use panthic donations to build up their own families and caste, which perpetuates their crap.  As perfectly exemplified by their modern day 'king' Badal panchodaa. 

50 minutes ago, chatanga1 said:

No, we need to bring back your old pal Zail Singh in, he'd know exactly what to do........he's done a top class job already as we can all see.

Your family are actual allied supporters of Badal. Mine don't know and have no connection to Zail and his politics. Backwards pendu. 

It's people like you that ruined Panjab. Over a few bottles of whisky no less..........

@chatanga1

Face it, you have nothing of any substance to say. Out of date dinosaur. 

Pakistani smugglers change tack, use river route to push drugs in bulk

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51 minutes ago, chatanga1 said:

Is that what mann needs to be focusing on right now?

No, we need to bring your old pal Badal back in, he'd know exactly what to do..........he's done a top class job already as we can all see. 

Deal with these kinds of animals, get the old kharkus who've been locked up for decades out first, then we'd believe you guys are actually serious. 

Chatanga is delusional and full of shyte. 

Thicko has probably never done anything risky in his life, but deludes himself as some K'stani warrior. lol  Badal's pet, now he's crawling up P'stani ar5e. 

15 minutes ago, kdsingh80 said:

So this is your problem. Thread against pakistani. Did i say abusive word against anyone . The threat to Pakistan sikh is real and it is jathedar that said it. You people are Gandhi ke bandar when it comes to atrocities done to handful of Sikhs in Pakistan or Afghanistan. BTW Pakistan opened flood gates for reasons unknown. They did not say that we are foing to it for Punjabi bhaichara . Read what they did with kharkhoos in 88-89 from their sources.

These tats are disgusting. They know these same people have killed umpteen Sikhs and groomed God knows how many, but they'll still crawl up their ar5e when it suits them. They have no izzat left whatsoever. I remember back in the 90s, when I heard from a well informed source how kharkoos in P'stan where encountering apneean from the UK who'd been tricked into going there by their 'boyfriends' and stuck in brothels. And the kharkus had to tell them that they couldn't do anything to help them because of their own situation.

17 minutes ago, kdsingh80 said:

Oh really , Guru Gobind Singh sacrificed his entire family then only he asked Sikhs to sacrifice , you people send your kids to top universities have first class life and you want some poor sikh to fight and die for your khalistan. Is this sikhi for you .

That's exactly it. Lazy people like Chatanga want to sit in comfort in the west and be a cheerleader and take no risks whatsoever. I have respect for anyone who believes in Khalistan and are actually willing to fight and die for it, at least they are true to what they believe, but the majority sitting on the sidelines, cheerleaders make me want to puke.

 If this (see video below) is how they are behaving now, imagine what disgusting zulm they'd get up to in a K'stan where no one could challenge them........these people sold out their Gurus, if they ever believed in the first place that is. 

19 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

On the nazi side no less. 

And this is the guy certain people are trying to project as some leader.....says a lot about them and their intelligence. 

This guy was so out of touch talking that old docile, colonial peasant talk about gaining respect and honour from jumping into a war we had no business in. Thankfully, despite his insane proposition, people didn't follow it (noticeably members of his own family.......)

Or else we'd have more needlessly dead or crying their eyes out in some gulag, for nazis no less.  

He's either monumentally stupid or someone's paying him to spout his stupid advice. Maybe both? 

6 hours ago, chatanga1 said:

Woah !! How do you make such great posts?? 

 

Such "skill".

 

I see your "skill" has still not been able to furnish any more information on your statement of Hindu jaats killing Sikhs in 1984 and then becoming Sikhs themselves during the Kisaan Andolan....lol

 

Let's see your "skills" shine....lol

Fudhu jut, lesson for your slow brain to learn. Look closer to home before you ever accuse anyone else of being sell-outs. Sweep the gundh from under your own jaat's bed in this respect before you point fingers elsewhere.

6 hours ago, chatanga1 said:

I left and was glad I did, because I would have been affected by prolonged exposure to dal and his people and could very easily have turned out to be like dal and his people.....lol

What, skilled....you wish. 

Just stick to this clownish shyte: 

8 hours ago, chatanga1 said:

Did you see those tiranga waving Sikhs (read Hindus) in that video? I don't they are of "my" jaat.

Compared to what your people have done (i.e. murder other Sikhs for that same flag and money) - these lot are angels. Give it a rest. I know you're not the most brightest spark but come on.....phew 

8 hours ago, chatanga1 said:

That sellouts and traitors exist in every colour, community, caste and country. What's your point?

My point is that before anyone starts castigating any other Sikh group for not being on the same page as them re: Khalistan, take a good, hard look at yourselves, and your own behaviour. Maybe then you'd understand why people may not so keen to be 'locked in' with you people. Your history towards others has been horrendous. And your behaviour towards each other isn't exactly inspiring either. 

Also, face it, right now the movement looks likes it's going in circles. There doesn't look like any development over decades. 'Leaders' seem to be getting knocked off with impunity all over the globe. Suicides still take place in rural Panjab. People are converting in droves. People are leaving in droves. Most of the media being produced from that quarters is caste-based, brain dead drivel like this. Whilst your lot are dreaming about flying juts, these lot are actually flying spacecraft to the moon. 

Meanwhile, I don't have to be any fan of India or want to start waving tarangas about to recognise the countries been achieving big things lately, and become a global player. Not every hindu hates Sikhs or has it in for us either, but boy, meeting up and having prolonged exposure with your lot would probably turn them that way quick in any case. Face it, a lot of apnay are lost right now. You need to have people interested in Sikhi itself before you think about a Sikh country - not the other backwards way round.  

An example of a Panjabi out and about in public - and alcohol. The impact. I'm not judging because I've been there myself in the past, but you know.....how stuff starts. 

2 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Amen bro. May the Paanth be spared the degeneration we've seen take others. 

My only worry is that we may be already there in certain places and not know it. If so, with kirpa, let a hard, harsh clean up commence!!! To not only give an example and warning to our own, but also these pedo riddled abrahamics.  

On 9/5/2023 at 7:22 PM, chatanga1 said:

They aren't the only ones then. But they did stand up and make a change when it was most crucial.

What change? They kept a system they have been complaining about for decades.....

Plus Rihanna made more of an impact than all juts put together or no one would have known or cared about this shyte. 

Also, nihangs protected them - many of whom come from backgrounds juts traditionally oppress i.e. Mahzbhis.  

On 9/8/2023 at 12:27 AM, GurjantGnostic said:

Narcissists get into everything. 

Especially religious leadership, politics, police etc. 

So we're gonna see more than our fair share of the 1 in 6. It's gonna be creepy a 20 percent of people in any religion and even higher at the top. 

 

 

Hopefully, we've learnt some lessons from other 'faiths' like RCs in the UK at least and have at the very least started to bring the issue to the fore before we have well established, and protected networks of pedo gianis over generations. 

Chatanga used to be good, now he's just some backwards troll who pops up once in a blue moon (in between over eating and playing playstation like a man-child probably) with completely out of touch buckwaas.  

On 9/5/2023 at 7:22 PM, chatanga1 said:

Is that what you saw? Only Jatts? The Kisaan Andolan had that name for a particular reason - it represented all farmers. It's very feeble thinking that you should portray it with a twist, and you fall in the same group of Kangana Ranauts who called it a Khalistan movement. I think that says more about you yourself? That your mind is just as feeble as theirs?

 

I know you are in some backwards northern monkey 'pend' but can't we expect some coherence and relevance from you? 

On 9/6/2023 at 4:29 PM, chatanga1 said:

Rough day eh Dal? ......lol.

Nah, it get easier and easier these days because I have jut 'laagis'. 

On 9/6/2023 at 4:48 PM, chatanga1 said:

do you know what happened today in Sikh history? It was this day in 1995 that Jaswant Singh Khalra was abducted and disappeared because of your beloved india.

And who did this for India - hypocrite jut panchodayaa. Soon, I reckon I'm going come up north to teach you some integrity. 

It's your gundhaa jaat that does the dirty work for India against Sikhs. And will do so again in future. 

On 9/6/2023 at 4:29 PM, chatanga1 said:

It's called calling a spade a spade......lol

What about your peasant hypocrisy? If you can start bringing in Haryani hindu jut phudhus who were murdering and raping Sikhs around 84 like it never happened, how are you any different to these people?

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It was not a majority of Sikhs who voted Congress. The Congress vote is strengthened through the urban hindu and rural SC votes. It always has been.

And the majority of extra judicial murders of 'kharkus' and innocents were done by juts of Sikh backgrounds, so what's your point? 

Is this guy your relative?

4 hours ago, chatanga1 said:

Is that what you saw? Only Jatts? The Kisaan Andolan had that name for a particular reason - it represented all farmers. It's very feeble thinking that you should portray it with a twist, and you fall in the same group of Kangana Ranauts who called it a Khalistan movement. I think that says more about you yourself? That your mind is just as feeble as theirs?

 

There is and was a working system in India for food sourcing and procurement. The same system that is been in place for centuries. But under the new system, that would all be open to abuse and exploitation. Given that the new system was created by, and it's implementation oversaw by Modi's financial strongmen, who do you think would have come off worse?

 

 

Well why would they have a problem? Those handfull of jaats who became Sikhs did so, after witnessing the Sikhs standing up for their rights, and a greater exposure to Gurmat during the Andolan.

 

 

Well obviously you know more than us on this subject. Let's hear the names of those jaats who murdered and raped countless Sikhs around 84 who then became Sikhs in 2020/21.

 

 

Because these peasants and jaats were combined in a united mission against a greater threat. Have you learned zero about strategy during conflict from your studies of Sri Gur Panth Parkash..........lol?

 

 

Great. And you've won the debate.

 

 

What are YOU like is what should be discussed I think? You've been saying this for something like 10 years, but just like they don't seem to change...

 

What would you have liked to have seen during the whole "jut pocket bachao morcha"?

 

 

They aren't the only ones then. But they did stand up and make a change when it was most crucial.

 

 

That's always the case for the wolf climbing the hill. It was the case during the times of the Gurus, and the Dal Panth. Its the same now. And it's not restricted to India either.

You can't talk about sh1t, you and your family have been pro Badal fudhus from day. 

It says a lot about jut fudhus like you that you castigate the Delhi lot, but ignore your own 'biraderi's' recent love affair with Haryani Hindu jaats. Don't be such a hypocrit, say it like it is peasant - your caste is more important to you than Sikh dharam ever has been.   

And NOW you pop your head up on the forum after years of sitting around playing computer games, when your skirt wearing, head waggling, wife sharing 'brotherhood' is rightly questioned on its bull5hit. 

4 hours ago, chatanga1 said:

 

Not only Oxford but this particular paper was written by the Chair of Sikh Studies at Wolverhampton University - none other than Opinderjit Takkar. There's a reason. Obviously she does not care about kes and such, so tries to justify it with "Guru Granth Sahib doesn't say anything about kes etc"

What are these people going to do for the future of the Panth. I'm worried.

This is the direct result of Singh Sabha mindsets that equates Guru Granth Sahib ji to some highly prescriptive Abrahamic 'scripture', ignoring rahit namaay, and Dasam Granth and puratan Sikh ithihaasic granths.