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18 minutes ago, Premi said:

Maybe the best thing would be they attend Gurdwara every 2 weeks or something for 30 mins meetings, starting at least 3 months before Anand Karaj, to show their progression as a Sikh or progression as a non-Sikh into Sikh, They have to uphold this to be allowed to do the ceremony. One absence only permitted

BUT, I doubt Gurdware can necessarily resource this time and will not want to put barriers to income - which is a shame

"Trolling" with this one, but maybe they need to do this only if the bride is Sikh, since they almost always do not bring up kids as Sikhs/groom never converts

I think your points are valid, but as we can see with this example, the Uk sangat does seem to have some sway in some Gurdwaras. In this case, and to the Nanaksar Gurdwara's credit, they very quickly rectified their mistake, and were apologetic for it too. We know there will be/have been other Gurdwara management that have unscrupulously valued their income over anything else and tried to adopt belligerent attitudes towards the sangat objecting, usually crawling up mainstream gora's bhunds as victims of 'extremism' <cough, cough>     

As for how to proceed with proving the issue of commitment, your idea is as good as any I can think of off my head. We need to come up with something together. And let us recall our ithihaasic precedents:   we know when sullay were converting in the 1700s onwards, Singhs took all manner of steps to ensure the conversion was genuine, from feeding them pork for x amount of days, to putting boar's blood in the Amrit, to temporarily burying them to cast off their previous auras into the ground. So this is inline with our culture.    

55 minutes ago, Premi said:

Maybe a compromise for non-practising Sikhs would be some verbal agreement that they will take steps to become more into Sikhi

This one is dodgy, I think more than that is needed. Words are easy.  

Some of our lot are living in lala land...........

This is an embarrassment. 

Wow! The kind of beating your parents would give you back in the day......lol

9 hours ago, Premi said:

My point was about the Advocate for the Police being a Sikh!

 

Definitely 

I notice this is standard procedure for goray. I think they do it to try and give off some impression that the case is impartial. These 'representatives' they use are usually pre-tested sell outs.  

@singh77777

There's a lot of relevant stuff about being shasterdhari in this video you might find interesting. 

1 hour ago, singh77777 said:

thanks bro. yeah I would like too eventually, I didn't think knives would be this expensive originally lol.

how do you wear yours day to day? when wearing "english" clothes

I'm not amritdhari or keshdhari even, so I don't wear a shaster like that. But guys I know hide it under their jumpers/jackets etc. in a gatra. I know it's harder to do in summer when you're probably wearing a T-shirt, that's when a smaller functional one is useful.  A slightly looser T-shirt would probably help!