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What does PMKC stand for?
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4 hours ago, kdsingh80 said:
Nobody is saint especially the one who ruled over the others . BTW you should tell this to khalistani sikhs in west which are hoping that one day gora powers will support them and that is their only hope.
God knows what they are thinking? They don't seem very organised. I think India might be using this like a bogey man. If they are thinking like you are saying, it tells us everything we need to know......
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9 hours ago, Guest Kalyug da bhoot said:
This book also mentions hari singh nalwa as a jatt instead of a khatri, your thoughts?
I'm not remotely surprised it has errors. I think such works can be described as:
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20 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:Really caste should never play a role and we should scuttle those charters.
I used to think the same, but as said previously, they could lead to a situation where we are just handing the Gurdwaras to sociopaths.
Plus from how I see it we're in a weird conundrum. People might call for certain Gurdwaras to rename themselves due to perceived caste affiliations. But failing to acknowledge how certain subgroups were pretty much forced into doing this is another part of that 'culture of silence' I spoke of earlier. As we (should!) know, this caste based discrimination has had effects ranging from people starting their own Gurdwaras, to people outright leaving for other ways of life, or starting their own new ones.
Also, the big elephant in the room, of a certain prominent network of Gurdwaras directly having their genesis in the colonial period, and frankly an overt sycophantic position towards the colonisers including imbibing victorian, protestant perspectives (which are completely alien and at odds with Sikhi) , doesn't remotely get mentioned. I'd think there is likely to be serious infiltration there going back centuries.
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On 6/10/2023 at 8:15 PM, GurjantGnostic said:
Restricting Gurudware leadership or ownership by whatever lines, is one thing.
Restricting anything about the Gurudawre other than that based on caste or mistreating others based on Vaaran?
Either evict those Sikhs, put em in line or put em out, or take Guru Ji in the night and burn those mothers to the ground. That's what's up now. .
We need to go to war on ourselves yesterday.
March them phonies.
Thing is, in my opinion, this thing operates exactly like white racism, where hordes of people actually deny it's existence, or maintain a culture of silence around it. That's why it is hard to fight.
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22 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:
Understanding evil comes in waves and levels for sure.
You have to bear in mind, these lot did a proper job on the minds of many people on the subcontinent, some sadly seem deeply trapped in their inferiority complex and their inability to see things for what they are/were. That's why those postcolonial perspectives are so important.
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8 hours ago, ipledgeblue said:
I thought Ramgharia is a misl started by Jassa Singh?? How can it be a sub group? by this logic, other misls such as sukercharia and bhangi misl etc are also subgroups?
I get your point but If you go by the existence of the 'Ramgarhia bunga' (I think it was called?) that used to be in Hazoor Sahib before it was demolished, which was a place built in M. Ranjit Singh's time to house the artisans they sent to Hazoor Sahib to build up the place, it appears as if the name's meaning broadened over time?
https://www.sikhchic.com/article-detail.php?id=62&cat=2
PS - hp singh doesn't seem to know what he is talking about.
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11 hours ago, kdsingh80 said:
The British became quite weak after WW2 . They were no longer world's top power. They just wanted to get out of India . Apart from Sikhs their were other demands for separate nations . Sikhs were only majority in 3-4 tehsils of undivided Punjab . Offering Sikhs a separate nation would had open pandora box which could even lead to civil war in British India. So just for Sikhs this was too heavy price for Britishers.
I don't think you have much of a clue about how nefarious and insidious these people are.
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9 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:
Like...I can't even be mad. They nailed it.
What gets on my nerves is how people are so ready to start compromising or conflating the dastaar with other issues. Like twats wearing union jacks, or the star spangled banner, or the indian tricolour as or in their dastaars (and now this 'rainbow' stuff). I mean make your points by all means, you don't have to take it there though.
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46 minutes ago, kdsingh80 said:
Is there any non sikh source that say that sikhs were really offered something meaningful?
I agree. I'm suspicious myself, by all accounts the brits were falling over themselves to leave the place.
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On 5/24/2023 at 6:33 AM, shastarSingh said:Nihang Singh told me that leaves hv almost negligible nasha before the flower pods (dodde) are formed. So leaves are used for bhurji when the poppy plant is small.
The leaves can also be eaten raw but before the flower pods have formed. They are crunchy and very similar to a lettuce leaf. There is no bitterness and when we can get 'em, we love 'em. However, be sure to eat them before the pods form.
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You would have thought they would have learnt lessons from Saville..........
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19 minutes ago, Sajjan_Thug said:
You've been going against farmers lately, what happened that is triggering you to do this? Is it something you found in your research or something your learning in uni?
No, part of it is p155 take, part of it is very serious: I think that the agricultural focus back home and lack of diversity is a potential economic time bomb, I think the barn-dancing aspect of it has gone out of control.
I think certain strains of 'culture' are effecting Sikh society majorly and not in a good way. The movies and songs coming out of Panjab, the birthplace of Sikhi says a lot...... I could go on, and I have!
I thought I'd said enough about how I feel about these things that people wouldn't need to ask questions about that at least??
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Going to add this to the discussion. The idea that our ithihaas actually records and refers to multiple Amrit bestowing events is quite a powerful one, and could help us conceptualise the variations we see in extant accounts, instead of having them at odds with each other. I'm surprised no one has commented on this?
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18 hours ago, Premi said:
@dalsingh101 point taken about the gangsters/jatts in Canada !
On one hand you can be dismissive of these people and think: "Well, f**k them." but on the other hand it is sad and tragic in that they still come from amongst our Sikh thing and it is such a waste of life. We know our thing states this birth is an opportunity to get closer to your creator through dharam.
This just seem like sad waste of life to me. I wish these guys would use their 'bravery' and 'recklessness' for more positive purposes. Right now, it's like a cycle of apnay destroying apnay.
Apparently there's loads of this going on in Canada, our enemies must be laughing their heads off. Plus, now other apany are getting embroilled into that lifestyle.
17 hours ago, Sajjan_Thug said:When is the last time he did any farming?
I bet you he was a big fan of Moosewalla's artistic contributions.
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4 hours ago, Premi said:
Good on him, if he was screwing colonialists and taking their money too! Go on son!
Nanaksar and Khalistan
in Sikh Sampardaaye Section
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You should have some inkling that the picture painted of the diaspora in India is likely to be severely skewed, similarly, the image of India amongst many diasporans is also likely to be twisted.