CaNaDiAn_jAtTi

Ok, my main point here is that, I do have utmost respect for the SGGS and believe that if one has the SGGS in their house, it should be kept with respect, meaning, make sure the room is clean, proper rumalle and all, but I don't agree that one should revolve their lives around the SGGS all the time, they should read it, understand it...and practice what it teaches...and I still believe that the sewa of the sangat is stronger than making food four times a day at home for the SGGS... why do i say this, because Guru Nanak Dev Ji told us that in every life that is living out there, there is God in that being, therefore if one has plants in their house, make sure the plants are being looked after properly, if one has pets, same should go there, or if you see an animal in need look after it...and if one sees a human being in need, look after that person, help them out...and do it with the prem for Waheguru, and i think that is more practical and your doing so much more in the world, and I believe that Waheguru does see this....

Neo Bhaji, did i eva say anythin against Sants/Mahapursh's....no... But i said that i feel the sewa of human kind is more fruitful.... Ardas is good as well, but for it to be fruitful for others when one is at that state of level with Waheguru, where all is one....until then, one can do much ardas, but i don't know how much could one such as myself do it w a pure heart, even though i'd try really hard, i'm just not there... and plus, if one teaches another a skill to live there life by, isn't that wonderful...

I have to disagree on this poing Neo Bhaji.... We are taught that the jyot of God lives in each of us, therefore when one does the sewa of others, he's doing the sewa of God...my mother is not literate in punjabi and hence cannot read the SGGS, however my mother does sewa of ppl from her heart whenever she gets the chance to do, and she's not one with God yet, but i know that everytime she does it with full prem, she's a step closer... When there's someone in need, and one helps them out, the person inadvertantly blesses the one that helped them out, and that blessing is given through the person by the Almighty Waheguru.. I think the sewa of the sangat is a powerful vehicle that can bring one close to Waheguru... Neo Bhaji, u din't mention anything about the ritualistic aspect.... cuz that is a very important part of the question.... We have to raise our children without the ritualistic approach, and children are very naive at young ages and would not be able to see the prem that one may have by serving SGGS, but they would be able to see the effect of helpin out one less fortunate....

Bhenji, I think you're missing the point here... I think it's wonderful if one could do such a sewa, but what i see Jamuka ji questioning is that, if one was to put so much effort into looking after the SGGS, couldn't one put more effort into looking after our society out there and helping the less fortunate out there, other than just staying at home to make sure the food was made at the rite time, or to make sure that it's warm enough for the SGGS....yes i think we must treat the SGGS with respect, but i think our actions in society would speak louder if we were doing good out there, than staying in our house... Plus, we may do the sewa with respect and shradha, but our children will grow up seeing it as a ritualistic, and would do it just because their parents did it, and henceforth, that's how rituals are started.... I think that if one goes out in society and sees all the hunger and poverty out there and makes an effort to make it better, the child will see the good that is happening and see how it affects others...and will learn that this is what sewa is about.... Hence i feel Jamuka ji has a rite to question the sewa of SGGS, i'm not saying don't do it all, but that there must be reason and logic to it...and one must do more than just stay home to look after the SGGS 24/7

Lol, no i'm not, i'm just in an undergrad study....doing my Bachelors in sciences...and we have to write a term paper for our physiology 211 class... it's not bad i'm almost done.... By the way, Jamuka ji, i was wondering does Jamuka mean anything? Thanx

sitting at home doing my term paper for physiology on a friday nite, not even watchin tv.....crazy stuff.... Who else is in the same boat? or does everyone else actually have a life....

lol....good one, although i rarely ever eat cheese....

I doubt anyone's interested in it, but it kinda really bothered me since i haven't had one for a long time.... But anyways what happened basically was that i was with some ppl that i din't even know at a sikh conference (there was one here last weekend that i wanted to go to, but couldn't due to time and what not)...and anways things r goin kewl, until we enter a room, and this chick's like i see a ghost and he's not good, and and we all walk in and suddenly, i feel the presence, i don't see him, but i feel him there and it's such an odd and evil feelin, and it's sinister....next thing i remember is that the group starts doin simrin and then i woke up doin simrin and i had the weirdest feelin in my back along my spinal cord....crazy stuff eh... I wonder what it could mean? Any suggestions?

I don't get it though, because my nana ji and nani ji had a SGGS in their house a long time back, but because they served meat to their children, the Gurdhwara ppl took back the SGGS.... so i'm kinda confused now...

Ok, we don't have SGGS in our house, but an uncle of mine does, and the problem is, while i don't think he eats an meat, i know for a fact his children do in the same house, is that bad????

My two cents: why is it that in all pictures showing the Guru Ji's and their wives , none of them are wearing Dastaars.... if those were the wives of the Guru Ji's and were following the paanth then shouldn't they have worn them too...??? If that's not the case then we should take a look at those paintings and do them properly....

Hmmm.... Ok, let's all chill and take a deep breath.... I haven't personally heard much about Sehajdhari sikhs, and would like to know more about their role within sikhism, would someone plz give more information on how does one become a sehajdhari, what r they expected to do? and how come no one really talks about them at the gurdhwara?.... Does the murshad have to be sikh himself? or what? Please enlighte me.... thanks

I completely have to agree with Noor Bhenji here... And she's pointed out everything.... One can only guidd their children not force... And I have to tell u, that i may not be amritdhari yet, but i'm on my way slowly and God knows where i'll end up, but i had to take a deep reflection within myself to see whether or not Sikhi was rite for me, cuz although my parents brought me up as a sikh, I just wasn't sure, because living in a country where there are more christians than sikhs, one tends to wonder as a child, why r my beliefs so different. And it's easy enuf for one to tell sakhis about Shaheeds and all, but a child really doesn't understand the full meaning behind it, to them it's just a story, thas all... and to me I would love to see my child grow up learning about the world and the different cultures and religions and truly understanding the beauty of what God has created, rather than blindly following what i believe in... And anyways, Jo likhiya, so likhiya.... one cannot escape what's been written for them, is that not so? hukmee hovan aakaar hukam naa kahi-aa jaa-ee hukmee hovan jee-a hukam milai vadi-aa-ee hukmee utam neech hukam likh dukh sukh paa-ee-ahi iknaa hukmee bakhsees ik hukmee sadaa bhavaa-ee-ahi. hukmai andar sab ko baahar hukam naa ko-i. naanak hukmai jay bujhai taa humai kahai naa ko-i. ||2|| Then who are we to question what is happening to us... That shabad clearly states that all is happening because of His divine law... One's aim should be to follow what they feel is rite for them at the moment and focus on how to live their life....not others.... And if a person such as myself is condemned to wander aimlessly in this life, then that is a fact I cannot escape, all i can do is do my simrin and be a good human being

This topic is a really touchy feely type... this is my two cents on it, forgive my ignorance I'm not sure about making a movie about our Guru Ji's and having someone cast as them, but i know for sure that i'd like a documentry made on them that would give someone as ignorant as myself the opportunity to learn about their life and what they did and where they went. I mean i know about some stories here and there, but something that was more chronological and puts everything into perspective would be nice....That way we can educate our youngsters as well (esp if it were in english)... I do feel that media if used properly can do wonders in the world, but it takes a genius of a person to understand the medium and use it to it's max.... That's just my view.... Bul Chuk di maaf.... ~Cj~ :mrgreen:

Buddy, thats totally not me, I spent the entire two weeks ahead preparing for my exams.... perhaps ur in an arts program cuz thas different than sciences...

This is my 2nd yr at uni... and it's crucial for my marks, all throughout high school i was an honors student, and to suddenly become a c student, how can that just happen over nite, i seriously don't understand. I actually liked the courses i was taking this yr, and i wanted to learn more within those areas, and it takes motivation to achieve doesn't it....so what happened to mine.... I'm at work rite now, and I have to go home and face my parents, they haven't been really happy with me for the past year, my mom's all upset that i'm no longer her star child, like this is seriously screwed....

So i got back two of my three exams marks, and believe me their pathetic.... i have never been so close to failing before.... I don't get it, I mean I put more effort into my studying this year and my marks fell, last year i din't put much effort, but at least my marks were decent, what the hell is wrong with me? I just don't get it, the more i want to work towards my goal, the more it's like someone is trying to pull me away from it, I'm neva gonna get anywhere, neva mind my goal, with the marks that I have.....

Awww..... that's soooo beautiful.... thanks for sharin it w/ us Amrik Ji....

it's not coming out here, so i was wonderin if anyone in the uk has seen it, and could let me know what the endings like, thats the only way one can see what type of an impact it could have on the public. And in response to Punjabi Nationalists comment about how could she look muslim when many punjabi's are muslim and all.... If u take a closer look, you will see that generally they do have certain distinct features that one can generally pick out... ie the women are a lot fairer and most of them have a distinct nose.... (it is a generalization, but from my experience, it works)

Well... but i mean in the spirit of sikhi wouldn't you think one should deal with someone with a bit more humanity.... I mean everyone knows how harsh the Sharia laws are... I think that he would realize more if one should him respect and dignity than if we treated him like an animal.... we don't have to stoop down to his level....

So they finally caught him at last, what do u think should be done with him now... I personally think he should be taken to an international court system and not have the biased Americans involved in it, but i doubt that'll happen..... (as u can see i'm procrastinating from studyin physics....damn it!!! It's tomorrow... oh no :cry: )

I don't know, I think he got it from india like 5 yrs back when he went, it's placed beside a Sants picture in our house and when the lights r off and u walk by it, it's pretty kewl.....it's white otherwise, but glows green in the night

My family is prolly the oddest as, my mommy ji is from bathinda side and my daddy ji is from jalandhar!!!!..... I'm a mix of north and south blood!!!

I myself have a mala made of rudraksh beads, it's pretty kewl stuff, although i don't use it enuff....but it does help i think because one is able to forget about countin or anything and focus on the simrin more....and one can easily achieve a simple pace with it that just completely relaxes u.... I do a lot of simrin just walking around though, because i'm just way to busy to sit down and meditate, finals r coming up!!!! My dad has a mala which glows in the dark!!! it's pretty awesome.....

I wish it were like that.... but no.... i can honestly say i started studying hard core the week before, and put in like the entire weekend of just problem solving.... Maybe i can solve problems, but i can't connect the concepts behind them, i know i'm good with straight formula work.... I don't know... maybe i am just stupid *sigh*