SikhKhoj

You are the one who talks bullshit not Satkiran. You talk against goray all day long even though Satkiran clearly does not endorse any gora supremacy views or anything of the sort, she is a Sikh of Gori background why you keep bothering her Seems like you suffer from some inferiority complex Dalleh

I dont care about goray unlike you always fantasizing about them you don't even know who bapu surat singh is lol shame on you

No King Shiv Nabh has ever existed in Sri Lankan history ^

Love you too bro

Sukha Jinda's exploits are comparable to those of Bhai Bidhi Chand. Funnily both Jinda and Bhai Bidhi Chand were criminals before turning to Sikhi.

Dalla, you post too much phudu crap against 'pendu' Punjabis and Whites. Stop being so obsessed with whites, hardly see you posting against the 250 000 Sikhs killed in the last 30 years or in support of Bapu Surat Singh? Put your energy into something useful rather than bitching about white colonialism all day long. Some panthic masley you know.

No but you got the IQ of a goat.

Stop being a fool amardeep. Kesar Singh gives 2 Banis (japji anand) for Amrit, whether he tries to link his ancestors to this ceremony is another topic. Him 'altering' the recited banis at Amrit Sanchar does not affect his ancestors involvement (or absence thereof). Therefore keep these theories to yourself, you wannabe scholar. ALL historical sources got inaccuracies, so just because Kesar tries to link his ancestors with the ceremony does not affect the other facts such as his objectivity in reporting the amrit sanchaar date or the banis read so you cannot reject the source in its entirety especially keeping the fact in mind that is it the oldest source which mentions the bani names. Your baseless theories are utter crap. I debunked your Gur Sobha myth so badly that you ran away from that topic and that PrashanUttar/Prehlad Singh fiasco you're trying to avoid too. You should learn not to twist every source to fit in your dasam granthi soch

My 18th century source regarding 24 Avtar/Charitars being court poetry was a slap in the face of all thosewho claim DG was always accepted as Guru Krit prior to the Singh Sabha movement (amardeep being one of them).

Regarding the initial topic, I was right in claiming that once upon a time Sikhs were more represented amongst various ethnic groups and present in nearly all countries. Besides the Dabistan there is also Rai Chatarmans book Chahr Gulshaan written in about 1760 which says: "They (the Sikhs) are in such large numbers that in every country and city they are to be counted in thousands. At some places, which is especially connected with them, lakhs of them assemble." (see page 163, Sikh history from Persian sources). Keeping the mid 18th century writing date in mind, the claim that 'countries' may refer to 'all corners of the Mughal empire' becomes weak. Therefore the statement and the presence of high profile Gurdwaras in central Asia and Arab countries need to be taken seriously. A British author notes in the 19th century that a Gurdwara near the Red Sea is venerated by the Khalsas like the Muslims venerate Mecca.

I found some interesting things in Assamese manuscripts about Guru Tegh Bahadur as well. Contemporary sources, letters, etc. They are in Dr Trilochan Singhs library. The accounts describe Guru Ji as a saint soldier, the description reminds you of the Guru Hargobind-Samrat Ramdas conversation.

No limitations unless you see you're losing ;) I am back because I feel that this forum is in need of some gyan, both historical and gurmat. Will continue posting once in a while and annoy some members here that I do not like. Neo, duji warning meri gayab kidan hogi? I had two warning, put it back lol

Had to post as I can't see khojis being stuck in their khoj on basic things. I was researching about this 4 years ago. In my search some scholars referred me to existing works which have been invaluable in answering these questions.

I know this source but won't tell you ha ha ha. Okay, the source says Guru Tegh Bahadur had 30 000 soldiers and it is in Assamese language. I got the book, it is based on the Assamese Buranjees found by SK Bhuyan himself. The source has been rejected by noted Sikh scholars as being inaccurate regarding the number of soldiers but the general idea has been accepted by the likes of Fauja Singh and GS Talib.

Same applies to you. Don't care about this forum anyways WJKK WJKF

Stupid policy and biased admins. Anyways, I am leaving this forum, not that it will matter to anyone. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

No idea, will definitely try to find more about it.

lol.

Said nothing wrong Neo. Calm down, where is your shaanti?

Yeah whatever. Do takkeh de bandeh make passes on me regarding naam simran without first looking at themselves lol

Karde ban Neo Sian. I don't care

Agreed ^

True that. Why was the DG topic locked?

Not that I like AKJ but one gets away easily by attacking them on here rather than Taksal or especially the Dasam Granth. You should be impartial as an admin, Neo.