QUESTIONS FOR THE UK nihangs.. ANSWER THESE...
to better understand your nihang sanatan sikhi, would UK nihangs please answer the following questions?
1) What happened to your old site? On that site they put pictures of shaheeds such as Bhai Fauja Singh Jee and called them UK nihangs. Then directly under that they put quotes from somewhere saying UK nihangs will be beat and their dharis will be cut.. why would you take that off? afraid it will make you look bad? (by the way I have a copy of your old site saved so you cannot deny it)
2) Is there a doctrine such a Rehitnama (code of conduct) you adhere to? I assume from the comment that the real message of the Gurus is being lost, how do the UK nihangs substantiate that they have the "real message", or indeed that hindu rss things have entered into their "sanatan sikhi"?
3) What is a "Gursikh" according to you UK nihangs??
4) why doesnt your so called "jathedar" even have so much as a proper bunga never mind a farlaa?
5) where did you learn your strange traditions of sanatan sikhi? who taught you how to jhatka goats? who taught you how to make sukha? who taught you santhia?
6) why do you translate bani the exact same was as RSS (fundamental hindus) websites do?
7) Assuming the UK nihangs are persuing the real message of the Gurus, could the UK nihangs please list where they gain their knowledge with regards to Gurmat Sangeet (kirtan), Santhia, and their special form of "jhatka gatka" which to real warriors looks like some weak attempt at mixing judo and gatka and other things together (which they consider to be the martial art of the Sikhs).
What is the UK nihangs stance on Ithihas (historical studies)?
9) Do you UK nihangs possess knowledge of Ayurveda (medicine), Gurmat Sangeet (classical Raags), Ithihas (historical studies), Sports (weight training, swimming, horseriding, etc), use of "tark" and "nijaj" (logic and reasoning), Sanskrit and other languages (essential in understanding Gurbani), knowledge of other religious texts eg, vedas, purans, gita, bible, koran etc (essential for comparative relgious studies).
10) Regarding history of the UK nihangs, could they please explain why they arent part of Budda dal and call themselves 96 crore budda dal.. or just recently, budda dal uk? (did you UK nihangs get kicked out of 96 crore budda dal too now?)
11) Why do you follow santa singh, even after he was excommunicated? your santa singh was shown helping indira gandhi and the armies attack akal takht and darbar sahib. is this bad judgement on your part?
12) what do the UK nihangs consider to be the message of the gurus?
13) On your website it says you take sukha, the panths rehat maryada clearly states: "A Sikh must not take hemp (cannabis), opium, liquor, tobacco, in short, any intoxicant." Does this mean you UK nihangs arent sikhs?
14) do you ever refer to bani or do you just listen to what your so called "masters" say?
15) where did the concept of jhatka arise? who started this? there is no record of jhatka on animals being done ritualisticly
16) according to the panth, shaheeds such as Bhai Fauja Singh are considered great martyrs of the panth, do UK nihangs not accept panthic martyrs? because it seems like you are ridiculing them.. according to the panth Bhai Randhir Singh, Akali Nihung Baba Nihaal Singh Jee (Tarna Dal) etc are great gursikhs of the panth, but you ridicule them, does this mean you are not part of the panth?
17) the UK nihangs claim to be sikhs, then can you explain why you smoke, drink, do crack/heroine?? also akal takht says that you dont have to read raag mala and raag mala hasnt been read at akal takht for 300 years, can you explain why you think its bani?
1 your followers beleive it is ok to sleep with any woman as long as she is not muslim. is this right? do you think its ok to sleep around? some UK nihangs were quoted as saying "its ok its for experience"
19) can you explain how you are part of the panth and follow the panths maryada but differ on such fundamental matters?
20) According to this statement above, it appears the UK nihangs are going direct against the Akal Takht, and even consider them to be wrong. Does this mean the UK nihangs are above the Akal takht because they are more "true" to history? Also, since much of their history comes from their so called masters, and other history seems to be just made up, yet others is from RSS sources, their claim to be true also seems to be a loose one.
21) You say its ok to take sukha, this is in direct violation of akal takht, do the UK nihangs think their stance to be more correct than akal takht, which they claim to follow?
22) What is the origin of your method of jhatka. can the UK nihangs provide evidence to back this up?
23) do the other groups you pretend to be aligned with know that you misquote them?
24) there is a line on your shastervidya site about using animal blood to purify things, there is also significant implication that you drink the blood in sarbloh battas (the same battas that amrit is made in and Guru Gobind Singh held so sacred), what is the scriptual/historical evidence for this conduct? you dont have much evidence for this conduct. you do not even quote from rehatnamas.
25) the same rehatnamas you say allow you to take sukha and eat meat say keski is a kakkar.. is this true? if so why do the UK nihangs pick and choose rehatnamas?
26) why do the UK nihangs say halaal meat is wrong, but jhatka is ok, but still buy chicken from the market (many times where the meat is halaal in uk so they can appeal to muslim shoppers).???
27) you UK nihangs say that sarbloh is not important, yet you do everything in sarbloh, even your manmat, at the same takht sri hazoor sahib where bhang and meat are served NEXT DOOR, there is sarbloh everywhere, explain this?
2 why are tarna dal jathas all over the world so eager to kill the UK nihangs? even though the UK nihangs say Akal Nihung Baba Nihal Singh contributed to the sites, and they say tarna dal is aligned with them, isnt this false? why such blatant lies on the UK nihangs sites?
29) why does budda dals (the real budda dal) website refer to Guru Gobind Singh as "Guru Gobind Singh Jee" but the UK nihangs refer to to him as "Akali Nihung Guru Gobind Singh" and the budda dal says "Guru Granth Sahib Jee" but UK nihangs say "Aadi Guru Darbar"
30) the UK nihangs "pay equal homage to all three Guru Granths" but the panthic rehat maryada says that the guru is "Guru Granth Sahib".. arent the UK nihangs creating their own cult? they are making their own guru ship.. isnt this entirely discrespecting our guru?
31) could the UK nihangs please explain what they have ever done for the panth that makes them so much greater than great shaheeds or gursikhs? in addition what is their stance on santa singh admin cut?
32) the UK nihangs call themselves "sanatan sikhs" which has never been heard before them, does this allude to the fact that they arent really sikhs or part of the panth?
33) the UK nihangs think its ok to drink liquor but is clearly against the panthic rehat marydada, what is their stance on this?
34) does jagdeep have multiple personality disorder (schizophrenia)?
35) how do the UK nihangs pick panj pyare? what is the standard they must meet? if the panj dont eat meat and dont read raagmala (all aspects falling in line with akal takht rehat) then do the UK nihangs consider these panj pyarai as being of gursikhi rehat or gursikhi jeevan? if not, does this mean the rehat of akal takht is wrong? if so then what is the stance of the UK nihangs?
36) could the UK nihangs please explain how they do keertan of japji sahib paurees or saloks of bhagat kabir jee if they beleive everything must be sung in exact raag? does this also mean that every keertani living today does keertan wrong because it is not always in same raag?
37) try and answer what i have written so far, if its beyond the capabilites of your phd mind on bhang, then just say so..
3 what makes UK nihangs sikhs? the UK nihangs go to great lengths to put down every real sikh and explain why slaughtering goats to make their site look "cool" and smoke bhang and drink and womanize yet now they claim to be sikhs. if a gursikh sleeps around, is buying non jhatka meat, smoking, and drinking, then he/she is FUNDAMENTALLY different from real sikhs and cannot say they follow the sikh panth. if they beleive they are right, does this make every other sikh false?
39) why is every quote you have from dasam granth about jhatka really just about killing humans and not animals, but you use this to justify meat eating?
does this mean:
a) you are wrong
you are wrong?
If it is this easy to prove that the UK nihangs are wrong with regards to bhang and womanizing, does it also mean they are possibly wrong with regards to other aspects of Sikh Faith? Does this also mean, that the literature that the UK nihangs write on their sites could have other incorrect facts within it?
I have tried to remain objective throughout this posting.
Please note, this is NOT a personal attack on the UK nihangs or narsinghs (jagdeeps) character...simply stating of FACTS and asking QUESTIONS designed to forward knowledge. Whether the facts and historical truths do not fall in line with admin cut thinking is something that cannot be helped. Perhaps the UK nihangs can provide a suitable explanation.
For the sake of making this an educational thread, please provide objective detailed historical/(full) scriptural quotes and references to all answers. and actually try ANSWERING for once instead of mind games...
