Genie Singh

Your welcome, I have heard of these teachings just didn't know where they came from until I found that.

So who made up the term then? The British, the muhammadens? All with the agenda of making hindus weak to convert or enslave?

I remember seeing this in a Sikh text book which was quoting gurbani but I can't seem to find the reference number for this but here it is: The message and the teachings of Kabir can be easily gathered from his 'Dohas1, which criticise rituals and superstitions. Kabir said : "If by worshipping stones one can find God, I shall worship a mountain." from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabir_panth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narada http://www.kamakoti.org/kamakoti/details/skandapurana18.html?PHPSESSID=70aeed497c6dfa4d2c6b0203621275ff http://hinduonline.co/Scriptures/Puranas/NaradaPurana.html We all know nothing is found by worshipping mountains, hence nothing can be found by worshipping idols either.

How did Ram die (what sort of death did ramchander the mortal have)?

The Guru Gita (Song of the Guru) is a Hindu scripture authored by the sage, Vyasa, it is also used as chanting. The 352-verses text is a part of the larger Skanda Purana. It describes a conversation between the Hindu God, Lord Shiva and his wife, the Hindu Goddess Parvati, in which she asks him to teach her about the Guru. Shiva answers her by describing the Guru principle, the proper ways of worshiping the Guru and the methods and benefits of repeating the Guru Gita.[1][2] The text also gives the etymology of the word Guru, where the root gu stand for darkness, while the root ru stands for its removal. Thus giving the meaning of term as remover of darkness, ignorance of the heart.[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guru_Gita http://www.hariomgroup.org/shrigurugita http://hariomgroup.org/hariombooks/satsang/English/SriGuruGita.htm

I wonder why middle easterners never embraced sikhi then

There are some audiences who only understand sophisticated english plus it will help some of our writers to improve the quality of writing they write in such as the basic of giving references.

sargun worship like bhagat dhanna who tried to feed his thakur (idol) and god came to him in the form of a child to eat food since he wouldn't eat before his takhur/lord (idol) ate?

what about the iraqi dharamistan people say baba deep singh translated a saroop into arabic and sent it there

nice I also like the other tisar panth blog http://tisarpanth.blogspot.co.uk/

At 19 mins in he says it. This segment starts from 14:55 till 20:22 after which he starts answering the second part of the question about dasam dwar and the 9th door etc. 19:27 onwards he explains we weren't taught to swear at the devas (prior he said we weren't taught to worship them). 19:33 guru sahib has given us their references (as stories to explain gurmat) 19:34 the guru's didn't say worship them (devas) 19:38 and another thing, guru never told us swear at them 19:48 - we weren't told to do their nindya (slander) 19:49 nor where we taught to do their ustat (praises) why did guru use their reference, because guru went to speak with those who were familarly with brahma, vishnu, mahesh (shiva). He goes onto say had guru sahib gone to the west he would have used reference examples of jesus and moses (isa musa).

Having just corresponded with the developer of the OCR. I have found out that this OCR functions only with 300dpi images and the scan is about 200dpi or less hence it's level of accuracy is low to detect the characters.

He said they shouldn't be praised either.

so is hukam, rehat then? bhai sahib said hindu mythology is referenced in gurbani for stories by the guru to explain gurmat and not to worshipped or insulted.

I wanted to discuss the various possibilities I have found on utilising the digitized manuscripts we find on the internet such as the Sarbloh Granth and it's translation to English perhaps as a means to render a search engine for it. To begin with the source is examined which is this:http://www.scribd.com/doc/28563324/Complete-Sri-Sarbloh-Granth-Sahib-Ji-Steek In this source the manuscript scanned in is in image form so it's characters aren't easily enter-able. So one of many things can be done which is to either contact the supplier and request or purchase the original digital version of it to prepare for a search engine or some search capacity based tool. Or to retype all of it which will take a long time, can take much man power and can become expensive when you employ a staff or deploy the project to a group to undertake. The third practical option which we will explore is something known as OCR - Optical Character Recognition. Where by scans and images can with the use of various computer based algorithms be matched to their unicode/ascii characters (for us unicode). Now when looking for OCR software I noticed Google docs provides this mechanism however they haven't utilised gurmukhi punjabi for this yet. However there were a few mentions across the internet of projects which are partially complete on this front so just to demonstrate this let's consider a few of them. At the moment it seems these two are on offer, since I could not use Sherik by Dr Gurpreet Singh the setup files wouldn't function perhaps they aren't compatible with my operating system. I used the government of India's gurmukhi OCR feature- it took about 4mins for the following image to go onto their back end server to render into text. (http://webocr.cdacnoida.in/EditText.aspx) Part of the purpose of the OCR project is to enable at some point the text to be audible so that those who are visually impaired may enjoy content that they couldn't previously. http://www.techgig.com/tech-news/editors-pick/Indian-Govt-launches-web-based-optical-character-recognition-system-for-two-languages-6606 Gurmukhi OCRs[edit] Gurmukhi OCR (Download) Distributed by MCIT, Govt. of India Sherik (Gurmukhi OCR) by Dr. Gurpreet Singh Lehal I found some academic papers for those who want to review how this actually works: http://learnpunjabi.org/pdf/gslehal-pap5.pdf http://www.ijcset.com/docs/IJCSET13-04-05-075.pdf http://www.ijera.com/papers/Vol3_issue5/BJ35343348.pdf http://www.ias.ac.in/sadhana/Pdf2002Feb/pe995.pdf Here is the source image from the sarbloh granth: This was rendered into unicode text as following: I used the above and Google translate to translate the Gurmukhi to English and retrieved the following and would like your thoughts on perhaps taking this process into implementing some form of software package which could make the process much more easier, more robust and simpler. (http://translate.google.com/) And in Romanised as:

The annexation of the Sikh kingdom in 1849, however, generated interesting opportunities for the Sikhs to immigrate to distant countries as part of the British imperial work force .3 In the protracted negotiations that preceded the departure of the British from the subcontinent in 1947, the idea of an independent Sikh state figured prominently, but the small size of the Sikh population in relation to other groups in the Punjab made this impossible. In independent India, the Sikhs have been engaged in ongoing conflict with the central government in Delhi. A sustained Sikh effort led to the founding of the present-day state of Punjab in 1966, where Sikhs are in the majority and Punjabi the official language. In the 1980s, a Sikh secessionist movement led by Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale (1947-1984) to create Khalistan (Land of the Khalsa) paralyzed the Punjab. At the beginning of the twenty-first century, there are some 20 million Sikhs, approximately 18 million of whom live in the Punjab; the others are settled overseas with pockets of concentrations in Southeast Asia, East Africa, England, and North America. Gurinder Singh Mann. The Making of Sikh Scripture (Kindle Locations 50-56). Kindle Edition.

Could you explain this extract from the shiv puran why do people worship a phallus? "Siva is worshipped both as murti and linga," says Romaharshana gravely. Saunaka says, "All the other Gods are worshipped just as idols. Why is only Siva worshipped as both image and phallus?" Suta says, "Siva alone is nishkaala , nameless and formless, as well as sakaala, embodied. In his formlessness, he is worshipped as the linga. Long ago, in the first kalpa, Siva revealed his nishkaala form as a linga and since then is he worshipped so as the eternal Brahman. Menon, Ramesh (2012-11-15). SIVA PURANA (Kindle Locations 187-191). . Kindle Edition. But shiv deva has names and is given forms especially as lings

I don't understand why he doesn't tie his dastar properly unless he isn't a believer of the sikh tradition then perhaps it's understandable

He has no beginning; he has no end. He is the source from whom the worlds evolve. Easwaran, Eknath (2009-06-01). The Upanishads (Classic of Indian Spirituality) (p. 169). Nilgiri Press. Kindle Edition.

So nothing on the dasvandh then?

I've seen some european writers over praise certain groups perhaps with the tactic to make them have their ego over come their rational sense making them easier to conquer.