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indian miracle? killing and torturing thousands of Sikhs and getting away with it. thats the miracle.
who killed & tortured thousands of sikhs?
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tobacco is not allowed in gurdwara . end of.smoking it or not. read the sakhian of the gurus pertaining to tobacco. anyone who takes it in should be asked to leave immediately. it seems that for all your knowledge you dont know the status of tobacco in sikhi. it is called jagat jooth. filth of the world. same as like walking round wiv a turd in your pocket into the guru ghar.
i'm glad u think i'm knowledgeable!!... most ppl think i'm a bit of an idiot... now i can tell them their wrong... coz bhai sahib bhai chantanga said so!
u rlly take things to heart don't u?
i never said tobacco was good... nor did i say it's ok to take it into maharaj's darbar... in your first post you said...
he was immediatley asked to leave the gurdwara. he complied with thisnow take a deep breath & read my post again... & try not to make assumptions or jump to rash conclusions!
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when my father went to pakistan on gurpurb about 3/4 years ago, bhai lal was there at gurdware dehra sahib, and he had tobacco in his pocket. he was immediatley asked to leave the gurdwara. he complied with this , but i read an interview with him, later in which he stated the sikhs have forgotten us and have no respect for us. he didnt say that he had deeply hurt sikh sentiments and violated the sanctity of guru ghar. just wanted to share that with you.
chatanga
was he smoking in the gurdwara? if not, i don't see how he "deeply hurt sikh sentiments"
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Professor Ji does also operate a Gur-Shishya system for dedicated students.
sorry... i know this is off topic, but who is his gurdev?
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the indian miracle?
http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/disp...+miracle/472852
sorry bout late notice... just found out about it
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One will find that the V&A has housed a "turban helmet" from the times of Maharaja Ranjeet Singh for many years, it was worn by all Sikhs in combat not just the Nihangs as is now being claimed.
who is claiming that only the nihangs wore it?
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sorry my mistake, my oh my my theology lessons are taking a tole on my annunciation and pronunciation!
*toll :wink:
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so who is "the guy"
his name's satpal
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We sat down, I showed them the place, talked about it. And then a friend of the friend said 'nah.....I don't buy it'.
hehehe... that same guy does talks now!
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why they pull plug?
hmmm... that depends who u believe.
i know the presenter who was on that time... last weekend he spoke to me about his show saying he had an open slot on thursday evening when he could bring on a guest & he'd like to bring on niddar singh. i spoke to niddar singh... he was cool with it & wanted to meet the presenter. they met on monday evening at sanjam kriya & both were happy to go ahead.
yesterday & at around 5pm today i spoke to the presenter... both times he said everything was ok, he'd spoken to everyone at the radio station & we were good to go. a little after 6.15pm i got a phonecall from the presenter saying he'd been called up by someone at the council of sikh gurdwaras in birmingham (csgb) called rajinder singh kang & told not to allow niddar singh on the radio. by that time niddar singh had already left wolves & his mobile was turned off.
so i went down to the radio station, met niddar singh & we went upstairs to speak to the presenter... he said it was out of his hands, & he had no contact details for raj kang. i went downstairs to ask the ppl there if any of them hand kang's details so i could talk to him regarding the radio. a woman called shantose kaur said she was in charge of vaisakhi radio... so i explained to her that niddar singh had travelled from wolves just to be told his slot had been cancelled by someone named raj kang. she called him up & relayed his message that the slot was supposed to be for kids & niddar singh would be inappropriate for then, but they could re-book him at a more suitable time. i said that doesn't rlly help, because he's made the journey already & they should've said that before. she replied that she was only the messenger & kang would be there in 10-15mins... & we could talk to him then.
raj kang arrived shortly with jagdev singh boprai (boss). we spoke to him & he said every speaker has to go through a vetting process by the committee which consisted of 5 ppl including himself, shantose & boprai... & that niddar singh was inappropriate for that slot. then he said it was the presenter's fault for not going through them... that he was niave (the presenter's only 17)... & said on 3 occasions that he would have words with him & tell him that it was unacceptable... & that if he continued doing things like that he wouldn't be able to continue doing what he does. shantose said i put my hands together & ask for ur forgiveness.
niddar singh spoke to them about what he was going to talk about, & some random singh who was there said, wow that's amazing... that's the kind of parchar that we need... if we have a few mins spare today, we should put him on... to which shantose replied quite abruptly, no... we have no time. raj kang gave us shantose's number, after which we left.
a couple of hours later i got a call from the presenter asking what had happened downstairs. i asked him if he'd got a bollocking... & he said no... he sat downstairs for 40 minutes after his slot with all of them & they wouldn't tell him what had happened, only that they'd had words with niddar singh & he'd only come down there to cause trouble. he wasn't aware that they'd blamed the whole thing on him... & also said he was on for 2 hours... 6 - 7pm slot was for kids... & 7 - 8pm slot was for the youth (teenagers etc)... & in that slot, butta singh & harjinder singh (gatka instructors) amongst others, had both been on & given interviews.
that's what happened... u can decide for urselves who's being honest, & who's chatting sh!t.
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who is niddar singh?
niddar singh is an ustad of shaster vidya. check www.sarbloh.info
just got back from radio vaisakhi... contrary to what u may have heard on the radio... the speaker did turn up! they pulled the plug on the interview less than an hour before it was supposed to go live... too late to inform niddar singh not to drive down from wolverhampton.
very unprofessional
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niddar singh is going to be doing an interview on vaisakhi radio in birmingham today @ 7pm.
tune into 103.5fm if u're in the birmingham area.
or listen online at www.vaisakhibirmingham.org.uk/radio
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brilliant!
plz let us know when the steeks are online.
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Apparantly Namdhari do not say the Gur-mantar in public, and treat it as sacred in this way upon recieving it during khande da amrit sanchaar.
do namdhari believe vaheguru is gurmantar?
when bhai baljit singh & bhai gurmeet singh were over they used to finish their kirtan with the full fateh.
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Acid from yoghurt clear the rust and fat keep it lubricated. It is done in india also. In my younger age i have seen it. Washing with milk is just an emoational act cause we don't want to use water or with other liquid. If the nishaan sahib is made of stainless steeel or other non carbon metal it wont rust .
i haven't heard that explanation before... whenever i've seen nishaan sahib seva being done, they have used water after using the milk.
Veer Guv Ji,I can't find any history on the Nishaan Sahib seva, but I think Darbaar Sahib floor (inner sanctum) is cleaned with milk every morning as well, milk traditionally signifies purity in India, hence it is used to clean the most sacred items.
i have heard that before.
the other explanation i've heard is that nishaan sahibs used to be made of wood before, & the yoghurt & milk help protect the wood somehow. not quite sure how that works. but the argument was that it's something that has continued to be used even though the material's changed.
any thoughts?
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GUV just a joke.
I the picture it say BITE MY SHINY METAL ASS.
But u r not showig ur ass.
the picture's of bender... a robot from the cartoon series futurama.
"bite my shiny metal ass" is one of his popular phrases.
he's my idol
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That is ONE
Sorry if u feel bad. GUV
I have to ask u that question.
No body can have two bilogical fathers.
So there can and is ONE god.
that doesn't answer the question... what is one?
ur answer was from a very pragmatic & physical perspective. the question asked was a philosophical one.
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Guv. How many biological father u have
one
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Like Hindu's was Shiv Lingam with milk.
The was statu of krishan on janam ashtmee. there are lots like this.
u seem to look down on anything even remotely associated with hindus... hindus will do matha tek to idols & do parkarma around them. some do sukhasan & parkash to them.... & others with cover them with a rumal & do chor seva over them.
does this mean none of these should be done to sri guru granth sahib ji?
back to the original question... does anyone know the significance if any of using milk & yoghurt whilst doing nishaan sahib seva?
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what is one?
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i've read an article which argued that the gurmukhi script pre-dates the gurus. i can't find it at the moment... but if it were true, it would suggest that guru nanak dev ji & bhagat kabir ji may well never have met.
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There is no references for lots of question in sikh religion. Cause lots of things were added while time pass. Any (sadly) most of there are directly connected to hindusim. So don't waste time in this things.
Consentrate more on sri guru granth sahib only. Not even on the so called sikh scholars. Such as Bai Gurdass etc..
so i'm guessing we shouldn't waste time on khande di pahul & external rehit... & for that matter jaap sahib, chaupai, tva prasaad svaye etc as none of these are in sri guru granth sahib. not even gonna go there on the "so called sikh scholars"!
use of yoghurt & milk for nishaan sahib seva is something i've seen all around the uk... & i've never seen any deviation from that. i don't know if the situation's different in india.
so where & why does this maryada come from?... & if u're going to say from hindus, at least give some kind of reference
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what is the reason for using yoghurt & milk whilst doing nishaan sahib seva?
i've heard a couple of different explanations, but neither was referenced.
Terrorists or Freedom Fighters?
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that would make america a terrorist for the bombing of hiroshima & nagasaki.
also, britain's actions against german cities in ww2 was also an act of terrorism.