Who Is Banwaaree?

[Balbir Singh]

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Dear all!

Can somebody please explain it? Who is Banwaaree ਬਨਵਾਰੀ ?

The word Banwaaree ਬਨਵਾਰੀ occurs many times in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee.

Balbir Singh

[PAL 07]

Refers to God as residing 'in the jungles'

[Balbir Singh]

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Dear all and PAL 07 Jee!

Thanks for your answer. Banwaaree "Refers to God as residing 'in the jungles'."

May I ask? Is Banwaaree not available in the cities?

Balbir Singh

[laalsingh]

Banwaree means 'living in jungles'. It is another name for Krishna as he was resident of Brinda Ban.

[Balbir Singh]

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Dear all and Laal Singh Jee!

You wrote "Banwaree means 'living in jungles'."

How can one find Him living in a city?

Quote "It is another name for Krishna as he was resident of Brinda Ban."

Is He still a resident of Brinda Ban and lives there permanently?

Balbir Singh

[PAL 07]

yes balbir singh God does exist in the cities aswell - especially a city in Germany where our dear friend balbir lives...he also lives in the city within you.

[Balbir Singh]

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Dear all and PAL 07 Jee!

You wrote "yes balbir singh God does exist in the cities aswell . . ."

Thanks. Now I understand why Gurdev is singing

ਕਾਹੇ ਰੇ ਬਨ ਖੋਜਨ ਜਾਈ ॥

काहे रे बन खोजन जाई ॥

Kāhe re ban kẖojan jā▫ī.

Why do you go looking for Him in the forest? SGGS Ang 684

Seekers can find Him in the cities as well.

Quote ". . . he also lives in the city within you."

Since when human beings have provided Him a city within to live?

*****

Many preachers are experts on God. But the topic here is Banwaaree.

Balbir Singh

[PAL 07]

ang 473

ਮੂਰਖੈ ਨਾਲਿ ਨ ਲੁਝੀਐ ॥੧੯॥

मूरखै नालि न लुझीऐ ॥१९॥

Mūrkẖai nāl na lujẖī▫ai. ||19||

Don't argue with fools. ||19||

[Balbir Singh]

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Dear all and PAL 07 Jee!

Please do not complain. Gurdev words are wonderful and to experience it.

Ponder why sick preachers are growing in number but true Sikhs vanishing.

Strange. Mahaan Kosh suggests seeing Banmaalee to understand Banwaaree.

Balbir Singh

[cybersingh]

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Dear all and PAL 07 Jee!

Please do not complain. Gurdev words are wonderful and to experience it.

Ponder why sick preachers are growing in number but true Sikhs vanishing.

Strange. Mahaan Kosh suggests seeing Banmaalee to understand Banwaaree.

Balbir Singh

Balbir Singh Ji, as to your question...God resides everywhere not in just one spot and in different manifests....Banwaree is also referring to those who reside in jungles in search of God....your human body is also a "city" in which God dwells....I may be out of line in saying this but to ask question after question and question upon question is someone who is, in a nutshell, "looking for something else".

If you want to experience the glory of God (Vahiguru) through his words (Shabad) then instead of asking qusetions to others, why not spend time in doing paath and vichaar of Gurbani by yourself and spend time in Naam Simran to truly experience the greatness of Akaal.

I don't mean to be rude and forgive me if i have offended anyone but I have seen in the past few years, all this cyber forums and questions and trying to be "cyber gianis" which does not contribute postively to anyone. Rather, it creates an environment of hate and anger to which Sikhi has always opposed. The true Khalsa spends time learning Shastar and Shaastar vidiya (art of warfare and learning texts).

Please, my benti to everyone is to spend more time in Baani and Naam to truly experience God.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki Fateh........

[Balbir Singh]

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Dear all and Cybersingh Jee!

You wrote "Balbir Singh Ji, as to your question . . . Banwaree is also referring to those who reside in jungles in search of God."

That is interesting. May I ask which True Guru suggested such explanation?

Quote "your human body is also a "city" in which God dwells."

My Gurdev describes it as Brahmaand that is within and outside.

Quote "If you want to experience the glory of God (Vahiguru) through his words (Shabad) then instead of asking qusetions to others, why not spend time in doing paath and vichaar of Gurbani by yourself and spend time in Naam Simran to truly experience the greatness of Akaal."

I found the word Banwaaree in Sri Guru Granth Saahib Jee meditating on Gurbaanee.

Quote "I don't mean to be rude and forgive me if i have offended anyone but I have seen in the past few years, all this cyber forums and questions and trying to be "cyber gianis" which does not contribute postively to anyone. Rather, it creates an environment of hate and anger to which Sikhi has always opposed."

In my observations, these are not only forums but also lectures of the sick preachers.

Quote "The true Khalsa spends time learning Shastar and Shaastar vidiya (art of warfare and learning texts)."

Please provide one suggestion from the reverend Gurus. I will be grateful.

Quote "Please, my benti to everyone is to spend more time in Baani and Naam to truly experience God."

Please ponder. Guru Arjan Dev Jee is singing.

ਗੁਰ ਕੈ ਬਚਨਿ ਰਿਦੈ ਧਿਆਨੁ ਧਾਰੀ ॥

गुर कै बचनि रिदै धिआनु धारी ॥

Gur kai bachani ridai dhiaan dhaaree.

ਰਸਨਾ ਜਾਪੁ ਜਪਉ ਬਨਵਾਰੀ ॥੧॥

रसना जापु जपउ बनवारी ॥१॥

Rasnaa jaap japao banvaaree. ||1|| SGGS Ang 740

Balbir Singh

[cybersingh]

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Dear all and Cybersingh Jee!

You wrote "Balbir Singh Ji, as to your question . . . Banwaree is also referring to those who reside in jungles in search of God."

That is interesting. May I ask which True Guru suggested such explanation?

Quote "your human body is also a "city" in which God dwells."

My Gurdev describes it as Brahmaand that is within and outside.

Quote "If you want to experience the glory of God (Vahiguru) through his words (Shabad) then instead of asking qusetions to others, why not spend time in doing paath and vichaar of Gurbani by yourself and spend time in Naam Simran to truly experience the greatness of Akaal."

I found the word Banwaaree in Sri Guru Granth Saahib Jee meditating on Gurbaanee.

Quote "I don't mean to be rude and forgive me if i have offended anyone but I have seen in the past few years, all this cyber forums and questions and trying to be "cyber gianis" which does not contribute postively to anyone. Rather, it creates an environment of hate and anger to which Sikhi has always opposed."

In my observations, these are not only forums but also lectures of the sick preachers.

Quote "The true Khalsa spends time learning Shastar and Shaastar vidiya (art of warfare and learning texts)."

Please provide one suggestion from the reverend Gurus. I will be grateful.

Quote "Please, my benti to everyone is to spend more time in Baani and Naam to truly experience God."

Please ponder. Guru Arjan Dev Jee is singing.

ਗੁਰ ਕੈ ਬਚਨਿ ਰਿਦੈ ਧਿਆਨੁ ਧਾਰੀ ॥

गुर कै बचनि रिदै धिआनु धारी ॥

Gur kai bachani ridai dhiaan dhaaree.

ਰਸਨਾ ਜਾਪੁ ਜਪਉ ਬਨਵਾਰੀ ॥੧॥

रसना जापु जपउ बनवारी ॥१॥

Rasnaa jaap japao banvaaree. ||1|| SGGS Ang 740

Balbir Singh

You wrote "Balbir Singh Ji, as to your question . . . Banwaree is also referring to those who reside in jungles in search of God."

That is interesting. May I ask which True Guru suggested such explanation?

Balbir Singh Ji....There is only one True Guru (Vahiguru) and he does not suggest it but my own limited knowledge and perception...Maybe I wasn't able to clarify my stance but that is what I think. 2nd point... Quote"Quote "your human body is also a "city" in which God dwells." My Gurdev describes it as Brahmaand that is within and outside." Gurbani's definitions are vast and cannot be set to one set of standards as they change with each individual perceptions. What is Brahmaand? is it a certain area in the sky or is it the vast universe or is it the unexplored regions of your soul and mind? Quote"Quote "I don't mean to be rude and forgive me if i have offended anyone but I have seen in the past few years, all this cyber forums and questions and trying to be "cyber gianis" which does not contribute postively to anyone. Rather, it creates an environment of hate and anger to which Sikhi has always opposed." In my observations, these are not only forums but also lectures of the sick preachers." This sir I agree with.... Quote"Quote "The true Khalsa spends time learning Shastar and Shaastar vidiya (art of warfare and learning texts)." Please provide one suggestion from the reverend Gurus. I will be grateful." Please look at Bhai Gurdas Ji's Vaars, Bhai Desa Singh Rehatnama....

ਗੁਰ ਕੈ ਬਚਨਿ ਰਿਦੈ ਧਿਆਨੁ ਧਾਰੀ ॥ 

गुर कै बचनि रिदै धिआनु धारी ॥ 

Gur kai bachani ridai dhiaan dhaaree.


ਰਸਨਾ ਜਾਪੁ ਜਪਉ ਬਨਵਾਰੀ ॥੧॥ 

रसना जापु जपउ बनवारी ॥१॥ 

Rasnaa jaap japao banvaaree. ||1|| SGGS Ang 740

Please read the ang in its entirety.................

Soohee, Fifth Mehl:

Gur kai bacẖan riḏai ḏẖi▫ān ḏẖārī.

Within my heart, I meditate on the Word of the Guru's Teachings.

Rasnā jāp japa▫o banvārī. ||1||

With my tongue, I chant the Chant of the Lord. ||1||

Safal mūraṯ ḏarsan balihārī.

The image of His vision is fruitful; I am a sacrifice to it.

Cẖaraṇ kamal man parāṇ aḏẖārī. ||1|| rahā▫o.

His Lotus Feet are the Support of the mind, the Support of the very breath of life. ||1||Pause||

Sāḏẖsang janam maraṇ nivārī.

In the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, the cycle of birth and death is ended.

Amriṯ kathā suṇ karan aḏẖārī. ||2||

To hear the Ambrosial Sermon is the support of my ears. ||2||

Kām kroḏẖ lobẖ moh ṯajārī.

I have renounced sexual desire, anger, greed and emotional attachment.

Ḏariṛ nām ḏān isnān sucẖārī. ||3||

I have enshrined the Naam within myself, with charity, true cleansing and righteous conduct. ||3||

Kaho Nānak ih ṯaṯ bīcẖārī.

Says Nanak, I have contemplated this essence of reality;

Rām nām jap pār uṯārī. ||4||12||18||

chanting the Name of the Lord, I am carried across. ||4||12||18||

[Balbir Singh]

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Dear all and Cybersingh Jee!

You wrote ". . . There is only one True Guru (Vahiguru) . . ."

No one can praise the Guru without experiencing Him. All that one shine is the praise of the Guru after receiving the wisdom (Gur).

Strange. Sick preachers promise wisdom by repeating the word 'Vaihguru'.

Cybersingh "Banwaree is also referring to those who reside in jungles in search of God."

Balbir Singh "May I ask which True Guru suggested such explanation?"

Cybersingh "he does not suggest it but my own limited knowledge and perception...Maybe I wasn't able to clarify my stance but that is what I think."

Balbir Singh "Gurdev is singing. Banwaaree is in every form." Please listen.

ਘਟਿ ਘਟਿ ਰਵਿ ਰਹਿਆ ਬਨਵਾਰੀ ॥

घटि घटि रवि रहिआ बनवारी ॥

ghati ghati ravi rahiaa banwaaree. SGGS Ang 597

Quote "What is Brahmaand?"

Brahma plus its Aand (source) together is Brahmaand.

Please do not feel strange. I also heard just now this Aakaashvaanee.

Cybersingh "The true Khalsa spends time learning Shastar and Shaastar vidiya (art of warfare and learning texts)."

Balbir Singh "Please provide one suggestion from the reverend Gurus. I will be grateful."

Cybersingh "Please look at Bhai Gurdas Ji's Vaars, Bhai Desa Singh Rehatnama...."

Balbir Singh "My Gurus never mentioned these names and their writings."

Quote "Please read the ang in its entirety . . ."

I am listening. The word Banwaaree from Guru's mouth is wonderful.

But why do you want me to read the borrowed translation of it?

Balbir Singh

[cybersingh]

Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal!

Dear all and Cybersingh Jee!

You wrote ". . . There is only one True Guru (Vahiguru) . . ."

No one can praise the Guru without experiencing Him. All that one shine is the praise of the Guru after receiving the wisdom (Gur).

Strange. Sick preachers promise wisdom by repeating the word 'Vaihguru'.

Cybersingh "Banwaree is also referring to those who reside in jungles in search of God."

Balbir Singh "May I ask which True Guru suggested such explanation?"

Cybersingh "he does not suggest it but my own limited knowledge and perception...Maybe I wasn't able to clarify my stance but that is what I think."

Balbir Singh "Gurdev is singing. Banwaaree is in every form." Please listen.

ਘਟਿ ਘਟਿ ਰਵਿ ਰਹਿਆ ਬਨਵਾਰੀ ॥

घटि घटि रवि रहिआ बनवारी ॥

ghati ghati ravi rahiaa banwaaree. SGGS Ang 597

Quote "What is Brahmaand?"

Brahma plus its Aand (source) together is Brahmaand.

Please do not feel strange. I also heard just now this Aakaashvaanee.

Cybersingh "The true Khalsa spends time learning Shastar and Shaastar vidiya (art of warfare and learning texts)."

Balbir Singh "Please provide one suggestion from the reverend Gurus. I will be grateful."

Cybersingh "Please look at Bhai Gurdas Ji's Vaars, Bhai Desa Singh Rehatnama...."

Balbir Singh "My Gurus never mentioned these names and their writings."

Quote "Please read the ang in its entirety . . ."

I am listening. The word Banwaaree from Guru's mouth is wonderful.

But why do you want me to read the borrowed translation of it?

Balbir Singh

You wrote ". . . There is only one True Guru (Vahiguru) . . ."

No one can praise the Guru without experiencing Him. All that one shine is the praise of the Guru after receiving the wisdom (Gur).

Strange. Sick preachers promise wisdom by repeating the word 'Vaihguru'.

Balbir Singh Ji.....I thank you from the bottom of my heart a million times for this claraification....You have removed all my doubts and queries.........

[PAL 07]

cyber singh moorakh naal na lujieh - dont argue with balbir singh as GuruJi clearly states dont argue with fools.....leave him alone and he will learn himself the hardway....kehat kabir tabhe nar jageh, jam ka dand moond me lageh

[Balbir Singh]

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Dear all and PAL 07 Jee!

You wrote "cyber singh moorakh naal na lujieh - dont argue with balbir singh as GuruJi clearly states dont argue with fools."

Please listen. Guru Naanak Dev Jee is singing.

ਮੰਦਾ ਕਿਸੈ ਨ ਆਖੀਐ ਪੜਿ ਅਖਰੁ ਏਹੋ ਬੁਝੀਐ ॥

मंदा किसै न आखीऐ पड़ि अखरु एहो बुझीऐ ॥

Manḏā kisai na ākẖī▫ai paṛ akẖar eho bujẖī▫ai.

ਮੂਰਖੈ ਨਾਲਿ ਨ ਲੁਝੀਐ ॥੧੯॥

मूरखै नालि न लुझीऐ ॥१९॥

Mūrkẖai nāl na lujẖī▫ai. ||19|| SGGS 473

Moving against the Guru and calling others bad, is this the Panth you are moving with?

O! Jooneeaa! What will happen with you now? You are preparing to enter next, which Joon?

Quote ". . . leave him alone and he will learn himself the hardway....kehat kabir tabhe nar jageh, jam ka dand moond me lageh."

Please ponder. Gurdev is confirming Kabeer Jee's Vaaks singing.

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਤਬ ਹੀ ਨਰੁ ਜਾਗੈ ॥

कहु कबीर तब ही नरु जागै ॥

Kaho Kabīr ṯab hī nar jāgai.

ਜਮ ਕਾ ਡੰਡੁ ਮੂੰਡ ਮਹਿ ਲਾਗੈ ॥੩॥੨॥

जम का डंडु मूंड महि लागै ॥३॥२॥

Jam kā dand mūnd mėh lāgai. ||3||2|| SGGS 870

Please explain this. How does it work?

God, the only Nar, awakens when Jam ka Dand hits moond.

Please say something about Banwaaree.

Balbir Singh

[cybersingh]

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Dear all and Cybersingh Jee!


You wrote ". . . There is only one True Guru (Vahiguru) . . ."

No one can praise the Guru without experiencing Him. All that one shine is the praise of the Guru after receiving the wisdom (Gur).

Strange. Sick preachers promise wisdom by repeating the word 'Vaihguru'.

Please read this thoroughly....................

http://sikhscriptures2english.blogspot.com/search/label/Invocation

[Balbir Singh]

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Dear all and Cybersingh Jee!

Thanks for the link.

In my view, Sikh Scriptures are the writings of the true Gurus.

Sikh Scriptures are not the writings from anybody else than the true Gurus.

Sri Naanak Prakaash Granth is also not my Guru.

I pray true Naam Simran for all. Receiving and growing with that each Vaak from Sri Guru Granth Saahib Jee becomes own experience.

And the need to read more borrowed books vanishes.

*****

The main color of the forest is green because of the green leaves on trees. May I ask why Guru Naanak Dev Jee is confirming? Banwaaree's appearance is blue.

Please ponder. Gurdev is singing.

. . .neel roop banwaaree. SGGS Ang 1191

Balbir Singh

[laalsingh]

Rule changes and so does method of worshipping Him. Now He is representated by blue color robes.

Balvir Singh, call Him, Banvaari, Madho, Madhusudan or Allah.

Color Him blue, saffron, red, green or whatever you want. All colors are His. All names are His.

[Balbir Singh]

Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaak!

Dear all and Laalsingh Jee!

Please listen. Gurdev is singing.

ਬਿਨੁ ਹਰਿ ਸਿਮਰਨ ਸੁਖੁ ਨਹੀ ਪਾਇਆ ॥

बिनु हरि सिमरन सुखु नही पाइआ ॥

Binu hari simran sukhu nahi paaiaa.

ਆਨ ਰੰਗ ਫੀਕੇ ਸਭ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੩॥

आन रंग फीके सभ माइआ ॥३॥

aann rang pheeke sabh maaiaa. ||3|| SGGS Ang 194

*****

Experience of Colors as the result of true Naam Simran is different from that of garments.

Also, Gurdev sings Banwaaree experiencing Banwaaree and not anybody else.

Balbir Singh

[cybersingh]

One Final Note....................

You wrote ". . . There is only one True Guru (Vahiguru) . . ."

No one can praise the Guru without experiencing Him. All that one shine is the praise of the Guru after receiving the wisdom (Gur).

Strange. Sick preachers promise wisdom by repeating the word 'Vaihguru'.

If Gurdev says that repeating the word 'Vahiguri' in 1430 angs, one can reach enlightenment and receive spiritual wisdom, is Gurdev then a Sick Preacher?

Just a yes or no answer please.............

Thanks

[Balbir Singh]

Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal!

Dear all and Cybersingh Jee!

You wrote "If Gurdev says that repeating the word 'Vahiguri' in 1430 angs, one can reach enlightenment and receive spiritual wisdom, is Gurdev then a Sick Preacher?"

Please provide the reference from Sri Guru Granth Saahib Jee. I will be grateful.

I every time ask my mind to answer. Why do you want to follow somebody else and not the true Guru?

Balbir Singh

[laalsingh]

ਬਲਬੀਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਜੀ, ਤੁਹਾਡੀਆਂ ਗੱਲਾਂ ਜਾਂ ਤਾਂ ਮੇਰੀ ਤੁੱਛ ਬੁੱਧੀ ਤੋਂ ਬਾਹਰ ਨੇ ਜਾਂ ਇਹ ਤੁਸੀਂ ਐਵੇਂ ਯੱਭਲੀਆਂ ਮਾਰੀ ਜਾਨੇ ਆਂ।

[cybersingh]

Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal!

Dear all and Cybersingh Jee!

You wrote "If Gurdev says that repeating the word 'Vahiguri' in 1430 angs, one can reach enlightenment and receive spiritual wisdom, is Gurdev then a Sick Preacher?"

Please provide the reference from Sri Guru Granth Saahib Jee. I will be grateful.

I every time ask my mind to answer. Why do you want to follow somebody else and not the true Guru?

Balbir Singh

panna 1402

Bhagat gayand....

Waahay Guru, Waahay Guru, Waahay Guru, Waahay Jee-o.

You are forever True, the Home of Excellence, the Primal Supreme Being. Waahay Guru, Waahay Guru, Waahay Guru, Waahay Jee-o. ||1||6||

You have formed and created this play, this great game. O Waahay Guru, this is all You, forever.

I could not use the Gurmukhi language so please look up the ang and see for yourself

[Balbir Singh]

Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal!

Dear all and Laalsingh Jee!

ਬੁਧਿ ਹੈ ਤਾ ਬਹੁਤ ਸਿਆਣੀ ਪਰ ਕਰਦੀ ਆਪਣੇ ਮਨ ਦੀ |

ਸਚਾ ਗੁਰ ਮਿਲੇ ਤਾ ਗੁਰਮਤਿ ਦੀ ਪ੍ਰਾਪਤੀ ਕਰਦੀ ਹੈ|

*****

Dear Cybersingh Jee!

Thanks for referring the Vaak from panna 1402 of Sri Guru Granth Saahib Jee. Is Bhagat Gayand Jee saying here that repeating the word 'Waahay Guru', one can reach enlightenment and receive spiritual wisdom?

Balbir Singh