Stop Sikh Girls To Marry Outside Specially To Muslim

[ca_sikh]

Sat Sri Akal

I'm new here and i tried to find this topic but couldn't find it.

For me its a kind of very scary situation and i think we should do something about it.

i have noticed that more and more Sikh girls are marring outside specially to Muslims

we are already in minority and future doesn't look good either.

we always use the term.

Raj Kare Ga Khalsa

what we have to do to control this and promote Sikhism

i m sorry if i hurt anyone feelings but its true.

[GtLoc]

It's because we've taken to acting like Muslims, something not even Punjabi muslims used to do; we're caught up in tamougan aka ignorance and who besides jihadis has the prize for that?

[Lucky]

On 4/6/2013 at 6:50 PM, GtLoc said:

It's because we've taken to acting like Muslims, something not even Punjabi muslims used to do; we're caught up in tamougan aka ignorance and who besides jihadis has the prize for that?

Yep, very true. We are so close to having our own commercial taliban that the whole world can know about

I know this problem is big and really annoying, especially in UK

[GtLoc]

You can also tell them the truth about Islam, look up Bill Warner on youtube especially the one about a rational discussion about radical islam. When you see the historical quran, and under aborgation as in older verses are overrode by newer ones; and the newer ones are all jihad, and kill the infidels.

Islam isn't just the quran, it has 3 parts. Allah + Mohammed = quran(allah) + sira (bio) and hadith (traditions).

Statistically only 14% of total Islamic religious text is the quran. So Islam is 14% allah 86% mohammed; Islam isn't just about the worship of allah, it's worship the way mohammad would do it.

Just search the ish, you'll learn a lot more.

Like, the real reason for the dark ages and there were three dark ages; a byzantine, european, and north african one. You know north africa used to be all farmland, and christian? Same w/ the M.E

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Finally:

Muslim scholars teach that Muslims should generally be truthful to each
other, unless the purpose of lying is to "smooth over differences."

There are two forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under
certain circumstances, taqiyya and kitman. These
circumstances are typically those that advance the cause Islam - in some
cases by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their
vulnerability and defeat them.

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Bukhari (52:269) - "The Prophet said, 'War is deceit.'"
The context of this is thought to be the murder of Usayr ibn Zarim and his
thirty unarmed men by Muhammad's men after he "guaranteed" them safe passage
(see Additional Notes below).

Let's see direct stuff; and for anyone who will say the quran can not be read, normally that's becaue of the third caliph (forget his name) who re-arranged the quran to be from longest to shortest chaper and took out the sira aka mohammed's bio to lose the historical context.

The original qurans which were burned by the third caliph are similar to one's people who know this stuff are writing that everything into historical context.

1. Imam Abu Hammid Ghazali says: "Speaking is a means to achieve
objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling
the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish through lying
because there is no need for it.

When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by
telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is
permissible." (Ahmad ibn Naqib al-Misri, The Reliance of the
Traveller, translated by Nuh Ha Mim Keller, amana publications,
1997, section r8.2, page 745)

5. Bukhari Vol 6: 138 Narrated Aisha:

“That her father (Abu Bakr) never broke his oath till Allah
revealed the order of the legal expiation for oath. Abu Bakr said,
"If I ever take an oath (to do something) and later find that to do
something else is better, then I accept Allah's permission and do
that which is better, (and do the legal expiation for my oath ) ".

4. Bukhari Vol 5: 668 “Narrated Zahdam:

The man said "I have taken an oath that I will not
ea (chicken)" Abu Musa said." Come on! I will tell you about your
oath. We, a group of Al-Ash'ariyin people went to the Prophet and
asked him to give us something to ride, but the Prophet refused.
Then we asked him for the second time to give us something to ride,
but the Prophet took an oath that he would not give us anything to
ride. After a while, some camels of booty were brought to the
Prophet and he ordered that five camels be given to us. When we took
those camels we said, "We have made the Prophet forget his oath, and
we will not be successful after that." So I went to the Prophet and
said, "O Allah's Apostle ! You took an oath that you would not give
us anything to ride, but you have given us." He said, "Yes, for if I
take an oath and later I see a better solution than that, I act on
the later and gave the expiation of that oath"

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Now these two are just form the same page I googled : http://www.islam-watch.org/Warner/Taqiyya-Islamic-Principle-Lying-for-Allah.htm

It has quotes from a book by some british commentator about Arab culture, but as this is not directly from the truest muslim mohammad I would say it is opinion and therefore would qualify as hate.

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But lolol just know the truth about the political doctrine of Islam and show people.

The simple fact is beside tiqqiya and kitman, the fact is if you have a 'muslim friend' either he agrees with mohammed in which case he is redunant; if he dis-agrees with sunna (sira+hadith aka mohammed), and the quran than he is a bad muslim, or a non-believer.

Therefore, the best thing to do and best way to know about Islam is to go straight to the source.

Asking muslims, since there are 1.6 billion of them is not a good idea; what you learn about christianity from asking the average person, or if you looked at what they do.

VJKVJF

A facist ideology has two things that differ from a free one:

Whereas, a free society is based on the two main points of: the golden rule, and critical thought

Facist ones are based on: dualism, i.e different rules for one group or another i.e sharia law and its treatment of non-muslims, and submission. I.e shut up or die examples of this are Hinduvta, White Supremacy, and of course Islam.

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Now, notice not a single religion was mentioned. As in, we are talking about the political ideology of hinduvta that holds hindus or high caste ones are superior; the hindu dharma doesn't even have a caste system!

White supremacy, while normally 'christian based' doesn't much to do with christianity, and as of this point even though I've seen stuff from the old testament that indicates 'racism' it's supposed to have been resolved in the new, and be all about love. However, the actions of 'christian nations' have been atrocious so I will study the political ideology of christianity later.

Finally, we have Islam, not the religion of Islam which says for example things like a muslim's backside must be higher than their head at some point during prayer; but the political ideology i.e Islam for Kafirs.

There is dualism, sharia for a non-muslim is different than a muslim. I am concerned in how it applies to non-muslims.

The Qur'an:

Qur'an (16:106)
- Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a
lie.

Qur'an
(3:28) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as
friends, unless it is to "guard themselves."

Qur'an (66:2)
- "Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), the dissolution of your
oaths"

Qur'an (3:54)
- "And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and
Allah is the best of schemers." The Arabic word used here for scheme
(or plot) is makara, which literally means deceit. If Allah is
deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that
Muslims are allowed to do the same. (See also
8:30 and
10:21)

Edited April 10, 2013 by GtLoc