Guest Javanmard Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 Here is a very scholarly website on the Bektashi-Alevi tradition of mystical Shi'ism: http://www.alevibektasi.org/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sikhphilosophy Posted August 19, 2004 Report Share Posted August 19, 2004 The path which does not go through science has a dark end. Hünkar Hacı Bektaş Veli 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tSingh Posted August 19, 2004 Report Share Posted August 19, 2004 The bektashis were wild! I have a beautiful 19th century photo of them looking like nihangs, bihangam maryada, with axes and kamndal. Their ritual music is staggeringly beautiful and meditatively cyclic (music is always a good measure of a tradition!). I was speaking to an alevi (who was also naqshbandi) in Istanbul who was telling me the Bektashi presence has just about gone now, banished to Albania. The history of the janisseries is fascinating; in principle young, unmarried and freshly converted! I also found it interesting that one website draws a parrallel between Bektashi and Sikhi. I can't access this website, but does it state that the Bektashis took over the naqshbandia (definately taqiyat!) as I have read? Anybody fancy going to albania this christmas?! wohoooooo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Javanmard Posted August 19, 2004 Report Share Posted August 19, 2004 Astaghfirullah! Naqshbandis :evil: :evil: :evil: !!! Here is an extrcat from teh website: For centuries the Bektashi Order controlled the most productive and lucrative salt mines in the Ottoman Empire; the salt from those mines was called Hajji Bektash Salt. Bektashi properties were turned over to Naqshbendi dervishes. basically they were persecuted by the Naqshbandi through their influence at the Ottoman court just like they did at the Mughal court! Ever wondered why Ahmad Sirhindi was implicated in Guru Arjan Dev Ji's assassination! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tSingh Posted August 19, 2004 Report Share Posted August 19, 2004 I heard quite different, that they took on the form of naqshbandia in turkey to survive 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tSingh Posted November 16, 2004 Report Share Posted November 16, 2004 I wasn't joking, Albanian Bektashis here I come (plus a little cliff-faced Greek Orthodox asceticism for good measure)! I will write up my experiences when I get back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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