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Vaheguru Jee Ka Khalsa, Vaheguru Jee Kee Fateh !

Every Sikh should know what it is and you can only become true Sikh if you follow teachings of Gurus but not Hindus. Guru Gobind Singh Ji said:

"Jab Lag Khalsa Rahe Niara, Tab Lag Tej Dioon Mein Sara

Jab Eh Gaye Bipran Ki Reet, Mein Na Karoon In Ki Parteet"

This means as long as the Khalsa follow only one path of the Gurus and follow the teaching of Guru Granth Sahib, Guru Gobind Singh Ji will always be with the Khalsa. But if the Khalsa starts following Bipran Ki Reet then Guru Ji will not help the Khalsa because a Sikh is not allowed to follow Bipars (Brahmans).

Vaheguru Jee Ka Khalsa, Vaheguru Jee Kee Fateh !

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Guest Sardar Moderator Singh

In order for this discussion to be fruitful, please could any future posts consider and addess the following:-

1. What is the source of the quotes and a brief discussion on this text -also an accurate translation is required (ironlion, thank you for raising this important topic, but your translation is not entirely accurate).

2. What is Bipran?

3. What/Who are the Brahmins and what is the issue with them?

Please keep these 3 questions in mind in all future posts, for this is a quote that is being used time and time again in a whole host of arguments and needs to be fully evaluated.

Please proceed with some diligent vichaar!

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Gurfateh!

The verse which states

Till Khalsa remains seperate,Till then i give all my Glory

If they go in the ritual of of Prist,I will not do feeling on them(will not take care of them).

This may means if Khalsa is alone(Nayyara) ,I will give all power to him/her.

If he goes for pristly ritual,I will not do Parttet of them

Parteet is felling or care from Ampbhrash of Sanskrit.

In Amrit Kirtan Pothi it is said to be taken from Sarbloh Guru Darbar

But in Sarbloh Guru Darbar Published by Budh Dal,This verse is all togather missing.

If it is not found in any of the manuscript of Sarbloh Guru Darbar then this verse is interopolated,Null and void.

So Das is sorry but his another Grand Father Gurbux Sinnh Kala Afghana will have to take back all his writing regarding Vipran Ki Reet.

Das is sorry if something wrong is written.

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Gur Fateh!

Veer VijayDeep Singh,

Is the fact that this shabad is missing from the Sri Sarabloh Parkash printed by the Buddha Dal a result of Baba Santa Singh's editing?

You indicate that no 'manuscript' contains these shabads either -in which case does anyone know where these Shabads came from? When were they first circulated and preached?

In addition to this, the shabad during the preceding portion also mentions these lines:-

"Pita KAAL Purakh, Maat CHANDIKA"

What are the thoughts of the forum on this?

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Ek Oankar Wahiguru Ji Ki Fateh

Das has as yet not seen any manuscript,But compiler of Budhdal version gives an accunt of all manuscripts.(There is one from Hazur Sahib too).

Das has said,If Manuscripts also does not contain this verse.

So it has to be verified and it is not a statement but a conditional statement.

Das is sorry if any confusion is created. Kindly read the post of Das(above this) clearly.

It is a matter of research.

But if verses are not there then bases of Tat Khalsa of present date is false.

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