amardeep Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 Gurfateh Which portions in the Dasam Granth are considered to be a part of the larger Bachitar Natak Granth? Its easy to find where it begins but where does it end since there is no "Here ends the bachitar natak granth". please help as its urgent 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga1 Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 Did you get an answer Amardeep? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragmaala Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 It Sri bachitar natke chandi charitar Samapat mast subh mast.... so I will think it ends with Chandi charitar ustat . Anyone else ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amardeep Posted February 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 I think its the above as Ragmala has said. This makes the Bachitar Natak as the largest Granth of the Sri Dasam Granth. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga1 Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 The 2nd Chandi Charitar does end stating this is part of Sri Bachitar Natak Granth. So the Sri Bachitar Natak Granth would include Sri Jaap Sahib, Akal Ustati, Bachitar Natak, Chandi Charitar Ukti Bilas, Chandi Charitar 2? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amardeep Posted February 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 13 minutes ago, chatanga1 said: The 2nd Chandi Charitar does end stating this is part of Sri Bachitar Natak Granth. So the Sri Bachitar Natak Granth would include Sri Jaap Sahib, Akal Ustati, Bachitar Natak, Chandi Charitar Ukti Bilas, Chandi Charitar 2? No the Bachitar Natak starts after the Akal Usatat with the famous Namaskaar Sri Kharag ko karou su hit chit laye verse. Jaap Sahib and Akal Ustat are independent writings not part of any larger compositions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga1 Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 An excellent book for info on Sri Dasam Granth Sahib. It cleared up a lot for me on it's detailed chapter concerning "Chhands". Go to page 57 of this pdf and it tells you what was included as part of the "Bachitar Natak Granth": Bachitar Natak Chaubis Avtar Brahm Avtar Rudar Avtar Chandi Charitar 1 + 2 The author has also revealed that the change came after the Granth was "approved". I think the reference here is to 1897 when the Sodak Committee perused 32 Saroops and produced a standard or approved one. Sri CharitroPakhyan was always assumed to be the largest portion of the Granth at 44%. Chaubis Avtar by itself is 30% (according to pdf) so all together these writings that formed part of Bachittar Natak Granth may well have been as large as, if not larger than Sri CharitroPakhyan. Read the whole of the PDF. It is very good. Dasam_Granth_An_Introductory_Study_-_Sukhbir_Singh_Kapoor_English(1).pdf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga1 Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 On 19/02/2016 at 9:08 PM, amardeep said: No the Bachitar Natak starts after the Akal Usatat with the famous Namaskaar Sri Kharag ko karou su hit chit laye verse. Jaap Sahib and Akal Ustat are independent writings not part of any larger compositions. @amardeep Have you read "The Granth of Guru Gobind Singh" by Kamalroop Singh and Gurinder Singh Mann? There is a very interesting paragraph on page 27 which tells us that Jaap Sahib starts with Sri Akal Purakh ji de Prasadi Japu Patshahi 10" and ended with "Yudh Prabandh Granth" . The manuscript is dated 1688. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amardeep Posted March 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Yes i've read it some weeks ago. I must have missed that part, sounds very interesting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BhagatSingh Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 On 2016-03-08 at 10:30 AM, chatanga1 said: There is a very interesting paragraph on page 27 which tells us that Jaap Sahib starts with Sri Akal Purakh ji de Prasadi Japu Patshahi 10" and ended with "Yudh Prabandh Granth" . The manuscript is dated 1688. Do you know what the date is on Chandi Di Vaar? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga1 Posted March 22, 2016 Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 23 hours ago, BhagatSingh said: Do you know what the date is on Chandi Di Vaar? Bikrami 1753 which is around 1696 i think. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga1 Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 On 09/03/2016 at 3:30 PM, chatanga1 said: @amardeep Have you read "The Granth of Guru Gobind Singh" by Kamalroop Singh and Gurinder Singh Mann? There is a very interesting paragraph on page 27 which tells us that Jaap Sahib starts with Sri Akal Purakh ji de Prasadi Japu Patshahi 10" and ended with "Yudh Prabandh Granth" . The manuscript is dated 1688. @amardeep here it is. It is not from Jaap Sahib as I had written but from "Kabit Asfotak" (I think) . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amardeep Posted July 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 (edited) Interesting. Fascinating to study the internal design and organization of Sri Guru Granth Sahib and Sri Dasam Granth sahib. Edited July 7, 2017 by amardeep 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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