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Sri Charitropakhian Sahib jee Series - Charitar #25

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3 hours ago, paapiman said:

Thanks bro for the info. Is it possible to relate the two words "Chitarmati" and "Prem Kumari"?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

basically it could be he is able to do many things is potent, able. in contrast to the womens name being mother of chi tar's and queen of love.. just he's young and able but that does not necessarily mean he is wise to the womanly chittars and may fall susceptible

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On 4/8/2017 at 11:52 PM, paapiman said:

It is possible that the wise minister, through this Charitar, is trying to teach a lesson to the king. Here the queen has helped a poor unknown child become a King, but you (the original King) have decided to end the life of your own son. She has somehow managed to save the kingdom while you on the other hand, are on the path of destroying your own kingdom. 

 

Bhul chuk maaf 

Interesting. Well spotted!

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Pyara Singh probably leans on the Chaupa Singh rahitnama that says that the Guru wrote the charitars due to Anoop Kaur trying to seduce Him.
 

There has been lot of fuss about the 22-24th charitars, - let's look at the text and see what it actually states.

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" In S.1748 (1691 AD) a Sarin Khatrani, Rup Kaur, came with the members of the Lahore sangat to attend the annual Baisakhi fair. She tried to deceive the Guru in a most grievous manner, but was unable to do so. It was because of her deceit that the Charitra [Charitro Pakhyan] were composed. The work was completed on the eight day of the dark hald of Bhadon S.1753 " Chaupa Singh Rahitnama

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On 14/8/2017 at 2:21 PM, chatanga1 said:

Yeah, Amardeep that's what I read. Now personally I dont believe it went to the length detailed in the Charitars but it provided the necessity for Guru Sahib to write this Granth.

A way to widen the discussion is also to see whether the early Sikh historians considered the Anoop Kaur charitar as factual history or not.. .Ie. is the story mentioned in the Bansavalinama, Gurbilas writings or Suraj Prakash Granth. If the chaitar is not mentioned it is clear that these authors did not consider it as a factual historical event involving the Guru.

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6 hours ago, amardeep said:

A way to widen the discussion is also to see whether the early Sikh historians considered the Anoop Kaur charitar as factual history or not.. .Ie. is the story mentioned in the Bansavalinama, Gurbilas writings or Suraj Prakash Granth. If the chaitar is not mentioned it is clear that these authors did not consider it as a factual historical event involving the Guru.

It is also possible that this Charitar took place before Guru-kaal. There are other places with the name Anandpur in India. Anandpur was a former princely state in Gujarat too. Furthermore, the name Kaur (or a version of it) was probably in use before 1699.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

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