Tandoori_Singh

LOL! We got a badass over here! Look at this uppity little Tarkhana faggot. Stick figure in real life, keyboard warrior at home. Do you kiss your mother with that potty mouth fool? Who the hell needs the RSS when we have such friendly idiot 'Sikhs' such as yourself to converse with? How well do you think you're representing your people on the internet? You're a cancerous lump. Your 'strong faith' is clearly lacking because you won't even ENTERTAIN the idea that these Hukams are the real deal. At least have the BALLS to admit the fact that you don't WANT to believe that they are real. What happened to a SIKH following Guru's word without question? (until overwhelming evidence to discard it, which has yet to happen) I'm not interested in YOUR faith. However in my experience Tarkhans are the most self hating Gora-fied coconuts I've ever seen. They could use all the help they can get "I don't follow 'Sikhism' which is a product of Christian imperialism in India; I try and follow Sikhi which is grander than dogmatic lists of rules and factional politics." LOL And the truth is so swiftly revealed! Fact is... In your demented little peanut head you think Sikhi is ABOVE any kind of 'commandments', 'pillars', 'precepts' or rule based structure. That it can't be boiled down into a simple list of do's and don'ts. Now ORDINARILY I'd agree with that approach. But you're dumb wanker with a million logical fallacies so I won't. You want Sikhi to FLOOWWWW LIKEEE WATTERRRR or some hippie crap. You know who else makes that same silly excuse to try and get away from the fact that their faith is a BIG GIANT RETCON? HINDU'S. And even 'Hinduism' has a rulebook called the 'Manusmriti' (The Laws of Manu), which FULLY codified the Varna Caste System and asserted Brahmin control. It may well have been instrumental in the destruction of Buddhism in India. You do realise that whilst the British probably thought they were fulfilling some crazy 'Divine Plan' with their Empire, they didn't MAKE CHRISTIANITY, it's an ARAB religion. All the Major World Religions are from the East. All of these Eastern Religions had a list of rules to some extent. Why must Sikhi be the only one that doesn't have this? How would something like that not be useful? Do you know how retarded you sound? You're just as stupidly AGENDA driven as the people who say... "Bu-bu-bu-but but Sikhs aren't supposed to eat meat! They're supposed to be vegetarians cus I'm one!!" "Bu-bu-bu-but I don't like Dasam Granth cus it's got some story about an (entirely fictional) Hindu God in it!!" "Bu-bu-bu-but Sikhs are meant to be inclusive/doormats so interfaith/gay weddings should be allowed!!" "Bu-bu-bu-but Sikhs are peaceful we shouldn't disagree with other religions, make Khalistan or carry weapons!!" I couldn't give less of a crap how you FEEL Sikhi should be. If you don't want to believe that the Hukams are real, that's YOUR problem dumbass. The majority of the Sikh Panth does accept them for good reason, they're totally in line with Bani and more easily accessible. Sikhi was DESIGNED with ease of understanding in mind. You want to know what MY Political Agenda is? TO FOLLOW WHAT SIKHI AND GURU ACTUALLY SAYS AND MOVE IN THE DIRECTION OF KHALSA RAJ. Unlike you with your pathetic Ramgharia ass Gurdwara's. There was one in the East Midlands that was recently hit by lightning. Roof blown clean off! I think Guru Gobind hates you hammerheads! Plus do you think the British would have APPROVED of the content of these Hukams? Especially the one telling Sikhs to 'Stay Independant'. I'm sure that would have been their favourite! So much for your critical thinking and thoughts of influence. You want the evidence? Here's what we know: The Sikhism code of conduct. Reht Maryada, is based on 52 hukams or edicts issued by Tenth Guru Gobind Singh in 1708 in Nanded and sent to the Sikhs living in Kabul and Hazoor Sahib. The 52 hukamnamas or edicts giving instruction on appropriate behavior were written by order of Guru Gobind Singh and copied down by Baba Raam Singh Koer whose great grandfather was Bhai Baba Buddha. Guru Gobind Singh affixed his personal seal to the document, a copy of which can be seen at historic Gurdwara Paonta Sahib built on the Yamuna river banks in the town of Paonta Sahib of Sirmaur in Himachal, Pradesh India about 44 kilometers from Dehradun. http://sikhism.about.com/od/gurugobindsing1/qt/52-Edicts-Of-Guru-Gobind-Singh.htm Here's an image of a copy said to be at Paonta Sahib. It's clearly older than a few decades. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:52_Hukams_Inscribed_at_Gurudwara_Paonta_Sahib.jpg Here's a book on the subject by Balwinder Singh. http://jsks.biz/fifty-two-commandents-of-guru-gobind-singh THERE'S your groundwork. Now go and do the rest asswipe. Why don't you go to Paota and go take a look at it? Go scour the Golden Temple archives (assuming the relevent stuff hadn't been burned in 1984). Is this stuff TOTALLY CONCRETE? No. But nothing is, including many aspects of Sikhi. Again do you want me to... CONCLUSIVELY prove Baba Deep Singh fought with his head held in hand? CONCLUSIVELY prove that Dasam Granth and Sarbloh Granth were the work of Guru Gobind? CONCLUSIVELY prove the Guruship was given to Guru Granth Sahib Ji? CONCLUSIVELY prove what happened before the Big Bang? CONCLUSIVELY prove that God exists? Well too bad, proving these things are impossible. They require some degree of FAITH. The burden of proof rests with YOU. YOU are the sceptic. In this scenario YOU are the crazy Hindu/Muslim trying to tell Sikhs that Guru Nanak was a 'Hindu/Muslim/Alien/Dinosaur'. Go on, I'm waiting you ignorant faithless twerp.

BMW? Yup, got one of those! Alcohol? Sorry I don't drink. Not even at weddings! White girls? Hell yeah! Not to mention Hindu girls, Muslim girls, Black girls, East Asians girls etc. Not condoning being a player but boys will be boys. Our own girls are only for marriage you see, and I've yet to see any I know of marry out, they're just too proud of their heritage! Putt Jattan Da is spoilt for choice. That's how it is when you're on top of the food chain. I know at least 3 women from a Hindu background that married into my extended family and have had proud Jatt Sikh kids. Once they get that ring on their finger they never speak Hindi again! It's like magic! I mean can you really blame them? They can't honestly take Hinduism seriously and they probably don't even feel safe. Thankfully the WELL KNOWN Hindu phenomena of raping their own women (or rape in general) will never spread to Punjabi's. I wouldn't be trying to denigrate the hardworking Jatt farmer of Punjab if I were you. Without us the rest of India would STARVE TO DEATH with constant famines, which is EXACTLY what happened before the Green Revolution came to your rescue. You think the term 'Breadbasket of India' came from thin air? Punjab is the biggest food production state by far, and contributes massive amounts of grain to the central pool. Feel free to thank us, but then I don't expect a Hindu to know the meaning of gratitude. Tractors are great! India's 250 million people living in FOOD POVERTY is not. Jai Hind! Speaking of Punjabi Rap. WHY do you tasteless Indians absolutely love Honey Singh when REAL Punjabi's think he's absolute trash? Do you think he makes you people look cool? That's VERY very sad. Do you even have working ears? Although I'd rather listen to Honey Singh for the rest of my life than Bollywood rubbish. Chaar Sahibzaade WAS a very good movie! The PUNJABI director did a very good job. Those PUNJABI songs were very touching. The marketing of it being the 'First 3D Animated PUNJABI Movie' was a good move. I would have preferred it if the 3D Modelling and Animation wasn't done by a cheapo studio in Maharashtra. The level of polish was nowhere where it deserved to be (some lazy texture seams, low fidelity backgrounds, not enough keyframes in animation sequences) but I'm sure that's the best they could get what with the limited budget. But hey, some Sikhs actually took Amrit after watching it! So who am I to complain? I guess you Hindu's can do something right for once.

Who the hell was even talking to you? Did I quote your post? Did I call YOU SPECIFICALLY a retard? Fact is there are people out there that'll try and bash every single aspect of Sikhi (like the Hindu nutballs on this forum) regardless of concrete evidence being put before them. Trying to convince Sikhs they're Hindu's. That the Dasam Granth and Sarbloh Granth weren't written by Guru Ji. That Guru Ji wasn't a hunter and a warrior. Now you doubt his 52 Hukams. Next you'll be telling me it's possible he didn't write the Zafarnama. It's ridiculous. It's not discussion, it's a misguided attempt to shake peoples faith. Have some GODDAMN faith in your Guru you moron, that's what being a Sikh is about. Trust your Guru's words, follow them as best you can, and don't question them unless you eventually discover SOLID PROOF and reason to reject it. The burden of proof is not on Guru (who is perfect, the light of God on earth), it is on the people trying to denigrate him. There are plenty of things in Sikhi that require a small leap of faith but we make it anyway. Sikhs believe that Baba Deep Singh (an 80 year old man) had such immense power that after being beheaded in a duel with a Muslim commander (who was also beheaded), picked his head back up, and continued to slay countless enemies with his head in one hand and swinging his 15 kilogram Khanda in the other (most swords are only 1KG). You want VIDEO evidence of that too? Do you realise how PETTY you sound when you say stupid crap like you said? When you doubt that Guru Gobind could have written just a short list of commandments one sunny afternoon? "Just looks like a modern collection of random extracts to me." THAT is what you said remember. You came into this thread with the expectation they are false. Sikhs have had decades of research time to discover whether or not the 52 Hukams are problematic. You think YOU know better? MOST religions are based on absolutely zero evidence or scientific awareness, to the point where you can't even conclusively prove their prophets existed or not. The Hadiths are nothing more than a buncha rumours (like a game of Telephone) written centuries after Mohammed's apparent death by eating a poisoned goat. That said. The sullay are gonna follow their religion no matter what. Even if someone gives absolute proof Mohammed didn't exist. No matter how many times you tell them of Mohammed and his followers countless crimes and disgusting acts. No matter how many times you dissect the Koran and prove its ridiculous in front of them. They'll come up with a million excuses. Frankly some Sikhs (like the kind of pacifist hippies who use Sikh forums) could use that kind of blind resolve. We'd get a lot more done. Save your 'amazing' critical thinking ability for something that's actually positive.

Ha! You're trying to make fun of my PURPOSELY SILLY user name? Do you even Internetz? Your prostitute mother didn't teach you to disrespect your superiors like this. From now on you call me Tandoori_Singh_Sahib. Whatever nonsense you spout doesn't take away from the fact that you're sucking MASSES of tiny Hindu Lunn (smallest penises in the world according to studies) on this practically dead forum. Tell me when did you start to like the taste? Is it Cash&Carry-fresh? Where is your pride. Pathetic. Khalistan Zindabad

Haha! Silly bindoo. The internet is EVERYWHERE these days. How else can we all admire your ridiculous sacred rats? Even the Naxals have their mobile phones in top working condition. Technologic proliferation has gotten to the point where it's logistically impossible to close means of communication even if you black out all of India. Trust me I've got a degree in Computer Science. You however clearly don't know what you're talking about. There is NOWHERE for India to hide from its crimes OR its inevitable destruction. The whole world knows you're just a bunch of beta, ritual rapists, looters and arsonists. Nobody respects you. You're right you DEFINITELY aren't Afghans. The Pathans are actually capable of being ruthless hardy warriors. The Hindu's on the other hand are apparently only capable of backstabbing, lies and rape. You only have confidence when there's a swarm of you, like locusts. Oh this is rich! Your revisionist history is so fascinating! Please write a book! The Mughals were destroyed by the Hindus? Which Hindu's were those pray tell? Your Hindu Hill Raja's were nothing but lapdogs and slaves. Happy to be PRETEND kings. Did any of them ever win a single battle? Your Marathas were also nothing but lapdogs and slaves for the Mughals until Shivaji decided it would be more profitable to be a king (he died of dysentery like a true Hindu warrior!). Thanks to the SIKHS the Marathas won the 'Second Battle of Panipat'. The Marathas tried to face Abdali alone in the 'Third Battle of Panipat' and were completely DESTROYED. The Marathas were only able to control the Deccan, which the Mughals never cared about because there's nothing valuable there. The only non-Sikhs who deserved any REAL respect are the Jats of Bharatpur, who slowly managed to carve out their own little state. And even they were mercenaries for the Mughals many a time. Let's look at the Sikhs however... Guru Hargobind was attacking and defeating the Mughals as EARLY AS 1628. This was back before you little Hindu's knew what a sword was. It was under Guru Gobind that the Mughals were handed their first big defeats. At this time Mughals were seen as invincible. Banda Bahadur destroyed the Mughal governance in the Punjab Region, leading to the rise of Sikh dominance. Throwing the Mughals into chaos. The Sikhs Misl's smashed the Mughals and Abdali's Afghan raiding armies time and again. They were Abdali's worst nightmare. They sacked Delhi many times as the Mughals were useless at this point. They saved countless Hindu's (whose women no doubt stayed with their Sikh heroes). And WHO secured the Khyber Pass (the typical entry point for invaders) and made the Afghans and all Punjab kneel before him? Who was the man that terrified the British so much they didn't dare cross the Sikhs while he was alive? Despite the fact that they had CONQUERED all of you Hindu Indians at this point? Maharaja Ranjit Singh. You'll notice that Sikhs NEVER served any Muslims ruler, unlike Hindu COW-ards. The Afghans and Mughals were on our VERY DOORSTEP and they were beaten. Question... You had MILLIONS of Hindu's from all corners of India and you ridiculously outnumbered them, and yet none of you Hindu's could adequately protect your womens vagina's? I guess you're just not cut out for combat... You were slaves to the Muslims for a 1000 years. Admit it. You can thank the Sikhs for the fact that your Great-great-great-great-great Grandaddy's little peanut head (or maybe his foreskin) wasn't cut off by the Afghans. As for the British, you really think they gave a crap about that skinny, pee drinking, racist little pedo Ghandi? The man who SUPPORTED the caste system, aparthied and slept naked with his nieces to prove his 'purity'? NOPE. It was SIKHS that started the non-violence movement. It was SIKHS that started violent rebellion. It was SIKHS that gave their bodies to secure Indian Independance. And Sikhs like Bhagat Singh, Kartar Singh Sarabha and Udam Singh (also known as Mohammed Singh Azad, notice there's no Hindu name) that gave Indians honour. Frankly I think it was a waste of time anyway. Hindu sheep were always meant to be ruled. I don't mind if you skipped, I understand that reading is VERY difficult for you. Maybe you should get a Brahmin to help you? Don't forget to bring some fermented cow pee as a sacred offering. Get myself off? That's what I date Hindu girls for. They love the Punjabi Sikh boyz. We're like catnip to them. Haha! Our 'era' is over? Sikhi is only 500 years old, we have only just begun my friend. Already we have achieved countless impossible feats and we will continue to do so. The Sikhs CHOSE to join India (dumbest decision ever), and we will CHOOSE to leave India whenever we please. And there's nothing that you or your pathetic Dhoti crybaby army can do about it Khalistan Zindabad

Is there a BIGGER joke than Bollywood? Have you even seen one of those crappy movies? They're the most fictional pieces of idealized crap in the world. Most of them are blatant copycats of Western movies or each other. They have no basis in reality. You can't even call them art. I wouldn't be surprised if India uses them as torture devices. MY guess as to why there are so many Muslim actors called Khan is because Hindu's REALLY MISS THEIR OLD MUSLIM OVERLORDS and want them to come back real soon! That's the REAL Hindu love story! Here are some of my other careful observations... 1. All the Bollywood actors are light skinned, they are either of Muslim or Punjabi descent. The Hindu masses want to pretend they're they're light skinned when they're actually all dark as night. Not to mention that the regular Indian has terrible muscle building genetics and would look crap with his shirt off. Inferiority complex much. 2. Nearly half of all Bollywood songs are written in Punjabi. Amazingly enough the ridiculously uncool Hindu masses wish they were REAL Jatt Punjabi Sikhs. They're so jealous of our superior culture. More inferiority complex. 3. Every goddamn movie has to be 2 and a half hours long and has to have stupid sing song dance routines. It's not enough to have a GOOD STORY (not that Bollywood is capable of that), every movie has to be like going to the circus. Or the Zoo. Even more Inferiority complex. 4. They're even starting to hire WHITE EUROPEAN WOMEN to play the lead female roles. I mean, how pathetic can you get? Do you Indians even have any self respect?

The fact that Hindu Nationalism is getting stronger in the face of India's blatant crimes is proof of Hindu stupidity. You people don't even understand the meaning of morality. Well done you're practically Nazi's these days. Hundreds of years have passed and you're still just the same blind, stupid Idol Worshippers our Guru's said you were, except now your Idol is the Genocidal tea seller. Don't worry I and other Sikhs don't hate you. We pity you. You aren't worth the effort. We just think you're irrelevant. When it comes to the issue of Khalistan, Sikhs will take it whether you like it or not. Hindu Punjabi's (AKA a bunch of poor druggies in the dirty ass cities) can get lost if they don't like it. Although they would benefit GREATLY from Khalistan because they'd finally get some decent employment for once. Haha MASSIVE resistance! The Indian army will run screaming from Punjab just like they did in the Insurgency days. The Indian government basically gave up and told the police to deal with it. And they were only dealing with several hundred Amritdhari's AT BEST. This was back in the 80's before the internet and mobile phones, and most of the people in Punjab and around the world had no idea what the hell was even going on. A modern revolution would have India dealing with an endless army powered by Whatsapp. Just the other day the Naxalites killed 14 Indian troops and injured dozens, and that death toll with surely rise. A bunch of tribals in the forest are making Indian soldiers look like the monkeys they really are. India has approximately 500,000 troops stationed in Kashmir, turning it into an unbearable Police State. Kashmir only has like 12 million people. Just TODAY there was a shootout (and more dead soldiers) near the Pakistan border with Kashmiri Militants. Hell even Al Qaeda wants a piece of India. Punjab has a population of over 25 million. And there are 30 million Sikhs worldwide. PLZ DO TELL how India could ever even ATTEMPT to force Sikhs to stay in India, it is logistically impossible. India's badly armed, badly trained and ugly as hell 1 million soldiers are barely enough to deal with the current problems they have NOW. If the Sikhs step up it's Game Over. Indian finish. How many wars can you fight at once? The Sikhs have destroyed FAR worthier regimes than India (Mughal, Afghan, British, God knows how many Hindu Kings). India is just another to add to the list. All the Khalistan groups of yesteryear are still around, none of them disbanded. Sikhs are simply biding our time. We are playing politics and hoping India (that Sikhs freed in the first place) comes to its senses. We are giving you a CHANCE (which you don't remotely deserve). Ask yourself WHEN did India become such an evil nation? Maybe it always was one. If you care at ALL about your precious 'Bharat Mata' and don't want to see her ripped limb from metaphorical limb. You would pull up your damn Dhoti, shut your mouth, throw your Hindutva trash in the bin, and try and get your fake nation to become the Federal Government is was originally SUPPOSED to be. The choice is yours. "India is merely a geographical expression. It is no more a single country than the Equator." - Winston Churchill Khalistan Zindabad

The people who question the authenticity of the 52 Hukams of Guru Gobind Singh Ji are probably the same people who question the validity of Dasam Granth and Sarbloh Granth. These people are known as troublemakers and retards. Guru Gobind left his Khalsa with all the tools to ensure their survival and victories until the end of time. A simple list of concrete commandments is the very least he could do. I see nothing in the Hukams that contradicts any other aspect of Sikhi, and his advice is beyond priceless. As an example... 26. Sugandh (kasam sahu) dae kar itbaar janaaoun vaalae tae yakeen nahee karnaa| Have no faith in oaths sworn by one attempting to convince another of sincerity. 27. Sutantar vicharna. Raaj Kaaj dian kamaan tae doosrae mutaa dia purshaan noo huk nahee daenaa| Maintain independent rule. In the affairs of governing, do not give the power of religious authority to those of other faiths. 28. Raajnitee parhnee| Study and learn about governmental policies. If we followed these Hukams in 1947, Sikhs today would be FAR more successful than we currently are. There would be 100's of millions of Sikhs by now.

Please don't talk about your Mummy Ji this way. She didn't mean to raise a failure such as you. It's hard work being a Randi. Is this 'Sikh Awareness' or 'Hindutva Awareness'? Seriously what the hell is going on here. Why are you letting these crazy Hindu's run amok? Take your testicles out of your handbag. What kind of crappy followers of Guru Gobind are you people. Somebody needs to put these fools in their place (preferably in the foetal position in a pile of fresh cow dung). This is not DISCUSSION, what they are doing is flagrant trolling and in some cases blasphemy. Luckily I'm self employed. Thus I have the time to read this garbage, and annoy these dumbasses until I get bored. Khalistan Zindabad

Ha! How is it possible to have a bigger inferiority complex than a Hindu? Hindu's have been slaves for over 1000 years and they know it. Hindu's blame EVERYTHING except their own retarded policies for India's problems, they're paranoid as hell and scared of their own shadow. Next they'll be blaming Pakistan and ISI for the Monsoon rains. Hindu's voted for Narendra Modi, a GENOCIDAL MANIAC with the blood of thousands of innocent Muslims on his hands, because they THINK that a crazy midget tea seller can get them some worldwide respect! This guy would be rotting in a jail in any REAL country (that have these strange things called laws...) but Hindu's made him their God/Prime Minister. I guess that means India's not a REAL country then. Hindu's are so insecure that since Independance, the Indian Army has been CONSTANTLY at war with its 'own people'. They can't accept minorities. They can't accept the fact that millions of people within India aren't interested in your stupid 'Bharat Mata' fantasy and just want to live their own lives. Hindu's are so insecure that SOME of them go onto Sikh forums and try to interfere with Sikh affairs. These crazies lack so much self awareness and sense of irony that they say it's the Sikhs that are insecure! This is psychological phenomena known as PROJECTION. And nobody does psycho better than people who worship rocks and cows. The pathetic Hindu Hill 'Raja's' joined up with the Mughals to attack Gobind Singh because they FEARED the power of his Khalsa. They were happy being the Mughals pets though. Even in the Britishers time when the Sikhs didn't control their Gurdwara's, you would have retarded Hindu Clergymen installing their ugly idols all over the place. Hindu's apparently just can't help themselves. Hindu's are so insecure and self hating they have to rewrite their history every 5 minutes. What the hell is a Hindu anyway? There's no such thing. Hindoo originally meant anyone from the Indian Subcontinent. It was used like a slur. The ORIGINAL name for the countless traditions of the Indian Subcontinent was 'Sanatan Dharma'. It doesn't matter how much you revise your history you're still just a joke. Sorry to break it to you Ganesh, but NOBODY can turn that craphole India into a respectable country. It's as much a failed state as Pakistan is if not more . It has worse food poverty than Africa, I mean how pathetic can you get? If there was a vote for Khalistan in Punjab tomorrow, Khalistan would be a done deal. India however is not a real democracy, it has even less balls than the UK, which at least gave Scotland an Independance Referendum. Sikhs are playing crappy Indian politics for now but we are FAST running out of patience. If the situation doesn't improve and if India doesn't become a Federal Government (like it was SUPPOSED to be) you will have a revolution on your hands and India will be forever destroyed. But you better believe that Sikhs are FINISHED with India. Joining it was a stupid mistake and one way or another we are cutting ties. From the time of our Guru's onwards (like Guru Tegh Bahadur who saved you from annihilation) no matter HOW much Sikhs give to help the Hindu's it's never ever enough. Sikhs gave 90% of the sacrifices for Indian Independance and that wasn't enough. Sikhs fought the World Wars and that wasn't enough. Sikhs saved India from starvation with the Green Revolution (and slowly poisoning our land) and that wasn't enough. Sikhs won your wars with Pakistan and that wasn't enough. Sikhs will continue to be betrayed and stabbed in the back by Hindu cowards again and again. It's just the way you spineless Hindu's are. I for one cannot wait for the breakup of India. I can't wait for Punjab, Kashmir, Assam, Nagaland, Naxal Tribal Regions and even the Tamils to leave you for dead. Then we'll see how long the 'greatness' of your 'Bharat Mata' lasts. I want to drink your salty Hindu tears. Also here's are some pro tips. 1. REAL Punjabi's don't call themselves Indian. REAL Punjabi's don't speak that garbage beta language Hindi (all signs in Punjab are Punjabi or English). 2. You should change your name from 'Sher' to 'Bandar', or 'Gaa' or 'Maj'. it'll suit you better. 3. Get lost. You aren't welcome here you Apu Fudu Hindu Bindoo. Go drop your stinky Dhoti somewhere else. I'm sure there's a Rat lover forum somewhere on the internet. Peace. Khalistan Zindabad