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i get what you mean on this but i think its fine now, as long as you can hold it down when it matters and not flap it then its all good..so basically if you look the part, be the part also..

I actually want to write a lot on this thread.. but whats the point.... chalo... personally i had a lot of material/duniyavi gains from this mantar, which enabled me to do bhagti of the one divine..

i like tyson fury alot, a propa banda.. a mans man.. no messin about... actually the whole fury family are f'kin bandeh straight up...his old man did a bit of bird for a fight where he tried to take mans eye out..tyson's (infact whole fam) not one of those politically correct type of geezers..straight up raw man ..i genuinely respect men like that...also they are travellers (gypsies), so their mentality is different,if they have a dispute they have a punch up (fisticuffs) they shake hands at the end....fair play.. i also think with a bit more weight training emphasis hes's looking for the ko, which makes sense as kilt will come to attack which is t'd off more a counter ko..saying that tyson is favourite but it is still a genuine 50/50..but my money is on fury to do it again....

Nice recitation..only came across it last night...Also advait and dvait mukhti is parvaan in gurmat siddhant, here bhagat fareed hints at dvait mukhti ie.. crow do not pick out these eyes as i want to see my beloved..enjoy!!!

Had a look. can't find it. Can you share a link for it please? listen at 1.50....keep listening its his trademark..Basically when katha vachak makes a point and say akho satnaam and sangat say vaheguru..he does this next tjing..well just listen... i heard it first time in india a couple of years ago as our driver was his chela and when i heard it it cracked me up..i was like who is this prick, which is when i came to know of panthpreet.. My mind set is a bit different, im not concerned at all, as a mahpursh once said to me a quiet a few years back ' sikhi punjab vich marjani ah, sikhi hon baroh aun gee' (the west) but one thing he was adamant about was that sampradas will never die in india.... which makes obvious sense. That started by the creator himself cannot be destroyed by human intellect, convincing as they may sound to the average hears. As well as naam japna/dyaan/mahapursh etc being attacked by these missionaries so is dasam bani, mainly targeting chritropakiyan, chandi di vaar (as you already know). But my personal opinion is that its not in some peoples karam to be doing these or be practising these things hence why im not that bothered/concerened about these missionaries, however i know you take a different approach ie tackling it head on (which i respect also).. We also have to keep in mind that its kalyug..."haje kalyug niana ah" hes only learnt to crawl yet...

what is a sher bairaag and ghora bairaag?? first ive heard of these..

i think when we say it here its more the punjabi translation of the word khuchee

Im not a big dhandriawala fan and the fact that he's rubbing shoulders with panthpreet makes me think even more hes gonna go down the missionary parchaar route. Panthpreet himself deserves a slap for the "satnaam sri wahe ha ha ha" thing he does (if you are a bit baffled by this, pls youtube the guy). This is my opinion. Now in regards to the 'assassination' attempt it seems questionable. Reason being it does seem like a cowboy job, the fact that there were a number of minds working on this hit, im sure at least one of them would have had the sense to, first and foremost to come up with a better plan and secondly not take registered cars belonging to the one man who the target has beef with..ie dhamma..Now if i was the guy who shot the singh (who dies in front seat) and knew the target was in that car in the back i would've finished the job.. and im not falling for the he didnt know dhandriwala was in the back as he ducked...if you are taking out a high profile man you know for sure where your target is located or you abort the operation..jsut too add, the last thing you would wear is bana and shouting khalistan slogans, at least disguise yourself to the average panjabi man with a triangle pagh and shirt pent... If i wanted to take out dhandriwala. I would get a marksmen to go into his diwaan as sangat, then pop him as the whole sangat will sh1t themselves then and do a crowd panic run..theres your escape. So im not taking sides as i do not follow the politics of these jathas, im questioning the hit... Im also interested if dhandriwala gets 'z' security now...

@ragmaala didnt expect anything less in regards to the tied beard fella.. Just means gujji/gujrati types, word we punjabis use for them in UK..

I remember watching this and another part where swami was on his own, it just had me cracking up..that swami just a typical khuchee.. Jarnail singh bhindrewale was a straight up sant sipahi..its funny the one with a kirpan was the calm one and the non violence swami was the one getting agitated... the effortless use of sant ji's ridh sidh was more to just shut the gori up. As he explains that these ridh shidhs are no big deal..

I read this last night and it got me thinking if the likes of rai singh did stay around the fauj we would all be quarter backs now... It made me think of the current grooming situation in uk.. in 90's shere punjab stressed to the committee members of the seriousness of, at the time conversion now grooming. They had the rai sort of attitude of no, we are educated etc now and any problem we will go via the authorities, well look at whats happened. In 90's it was more about picking up apneah from day timers/uni's so predomiantly 16/18+ now the sulleh have targeted 11+ and in some cases younger.. Had those so called sikh leaders listened to the sp, im pretty sure none of this would be happening in our community and if so it would be the odd here and there (not saying sikh girls would not go with sulleh just not in the manner of manipulation/deciet)... Maharaj knew it was time for physical battles and the 'turn the other cheek' sikhs was not gonna be any good to the cause, as they will always find a way not to confront in physical battle..

This is messed up man.. Lets just hope there is no immediate retaliation and sikh's go with hosh before josh otherwise things will get messy and its always sikhs who get hurt/killed in numbers..

@dalsingh101..hahaha..the manchester thing was a hoax....i feel in an attempt to see the public's reaction...nevertheless, dumb hooligans will kick off (a bahana)..so watch out my peeps..lol also saying that daily mail aint no f'in saint speaking truth...apparently a 'device' replica to the real deal which was not viable... so make of it, what you will...

i wont go into technicalities, basically because i cannot...but analogy i will use is this.. You can train and spar in martial arts all day long but nothing prepares you for a street fight... in a street fight your tolerance to blows increases massively .. i feel same is with guns, you can practice with ear protectors etc but in a real situation your adrenaline will protect ear drums from loud sharp noises.. Something related to this topic is also, from my experience of people is sometimes i feel a street man/warrior, what ever term you want to use, is either you are or you are not.. i say this because i have seem on a couple of occasions those who have trained in karate and taekwando, freeze in a street fight which makes me contemplate that are some just not up for the cause (warrior mentality), but then mahara'js bachan about making birds fight the eagle...i dunno.. what your thoughts bro.. Just want to reiterate when i talk about warrior mentality its built on the foundation of righteousness....sant/sipahi.. the complete product..lol...the tenth master guru gobind singh ji...

I used a glock and revolver which was my cousins mates guns and at the range picked up gun like the one jagraj is holding in the video. It was a really good experience and i was surprised at the noise it makes, as while shooting i had those ear protectors on but when i stepped back i took them off and the shots were loud.

That is a shame apneh got this mentality in US, actually this mentality is everywhere. I went last summer and that was the first thing i requested, its like i had too..lol..Shooting a gun is wicked man but i went to indoor one but next time i go will go to outdoors so you can shoot shotguns and bigger guns... seriously man if i was in US i would be strapped with out doubt, car and house would be loaded too..lol Have you UK guys heard, the controlled explosion at man utd stadium, boy oh boy if that went off it would have kicked off big time...saying that i still feel there's gonna be some big pangeh in manchester tonight... manchester sikhs be warned, maharaj kirpa sikhs dont get attacked or gurdwareh but the wrong crew has been picked on..these footie hooligans are something else.......these mans will be drunk and coked up heavy...

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Good stuff man.. keep at it..get some wrist wraps esp if you are trying to lift max weight..

I've always said it, quality over quantity and taking amrit should be an expression of prem and giving your self mentally/physically/spiritually to your guru and should not be a matter of action from a guilty mind or even fearful mind. One thing I've always tried to push with pardhaans is the importance of having qualified social workers in gurdwara. Domestic violence/ drugs and alcohol in our community is a big problem...and one i hold close to my heart is the grooming issue, like our girls do not know where to turn, i could go on..but ill put a vid up from basics of sikhi (when jagraj breaks down a little it does hit home) which pretty much sums up the state of gurdwareh, the people in it and why our girls cannot come to the gurdwara iin their need...Gurdwara as well as a dharmshala,where we learn bhram gyan, should also be like a fort where people feel safe..

ok you are right, but sikhs with the 'please the gora mentality' tend to be the older boys and a common pattern being pagh and trim or tied dhari in uk like a unwritten uniform rule. This is my observation, and the majority if not all are jatts and thurkhans..Like that fella in the video, if i saw him on the street i would kinda of guess he has the attitude he displays on the programme. An the audacity to refer to jagraj as 'mr singh' says it all. Just to add there are moneh with the same attitude but they are not really seen as representing sikhi as they do not have a 'crown' on their head.. i always knew this but working in the city i see it all the time, i feel the difference between the old boys and the younger lot is this, the old boys tend to seek approval from the white man where as the younger lot just try being like the white man. When i say be like the white man i mean mentally..habits/speech/manners/desires/world view an so on.. @Ragmaala..bro you still on the training flex or gone back to 10 pranteh??

I actually watched it sunday night. The two things that got me going was, first that trim singh or tied beard (same thing) acting like a fu'kin b1tch to the gora mentality and the f'in sullah at the end saying the mughal was civilised ( at this point jugraj singh shaked his head, fair play..).. This mentality needs to stop.. ive noticed it with the elders, the trim singhs and the singhs who tie their beards tend to be more gora fied, or lets be nice sikhs in line with pleasing the white man..serious man.. these mans making the community puppu white man subservients..

yeh man, in today's world defo exhaust medical help, as its easily available now..so take advantage.. Again agree, im also learning the 'forum' way... one thing i would say and stress is that the info on forums is not the pinnacle... It would also be interesting to see what the hardcore meditators say as well as it could be a case of excessive 'tapp'..controlling it maybe??

haha.. sorry bro i weren't thinking of the 'magical' explanations either just didn't know if you were taking the piss or not..serious man it just cracked me up..but fair enough about weight.. it will be interesting if the poster is skinny/healthy..

True, i suppose it is a gradual process and we need to start somewhere. Don't know the fella but like i said before hopefully he kick starts something. This is the big thing,majority of the sangat do not care enough to get involved, most come on weekends and do an akhand path once a year, so these people do not want to get on the bad side of the committe, pardaan etc. Another thing is the comittee people have got a strong hold on their positions with a lot of money backing them (the old boys), im not sure if people understand the amount of money involved but with out saying any names, im sure you will guess, theres a famous pardaan who built a shopping complex/mall in panjab which is worth sh1t loads. There was a bit of 'rolla' a few years back but by that time i lost all interest in the 'sikh community'..So do not know where that ended. oh yeh..lol at young singhs bricking it..but at least they look the part..lol Dsg you are right as actually we have to look at yourself first and foremost but one thing is for sure a change requires a collective movement, too many have tried in their small crews and well, didn't last long.

lol...you serious bruv??