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good lord..opps sorry wrong numbers..lol.i put aperture as f/8...i might as well stick to auto mode at this rate..need to play around with it..going to rockies in two days...lol

I have been experimenting with dslr. Can anyone recommend some good setting for landscape/wildlife photography?

I have it as aperture 8, iso 500 maximum 1000 and shutter 1/60 up to 250...is that good? I understand when it comes taking pictures of moving lakes i can decrease my shutter to 1/6 to get mist type of effect?

I understand but you use out of conext gurbani one line post in your post regarding exercise. I don't think thats needed as purpose of shabad is different all together.

Don't get me wrong, those exercises if some of them are incorporated with shabad, its fine. Even sant jvala singh harkhowale, sant attar singh ji reru sahib used to do hatha yoga with gur shabad in initial stages, the issue i am having you are using the above tuk to justify those exercises which is not main sankalp - purpose of guru maharaj guru shabad spoken above and if you read full shabad you will know further the main sankalap behind above Gurbani tuk.

Read the full shabad brother, 

ਨਿਵਲੀ ਕਰਮ ਭੁਅੰਗਮ ਭਾਠੀ ਰੇਚਕ ਪੂਰਕ ਕੁੰਭ ਕਰੈ ॥
निवली करम भुअंगम भाठी रेचक पूरक कु्मभ करै ॥
Nivlī karam bẖu▫angam bẖāṯẖī recẖak pūrak kumbẖ karai.
You may perform exercises of inner purification, and fire up the furnace of the Kundalini, inhaling and exhaling and holding the breath.

ਬਿਨੁ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਕਿਛੁ ਸੋਝੀ ਨਾਹੀ ਭਰਮੇ ਭੂਲਾ ਬੂਡਿ ਮਰੈ ॥
बिनु सतिगुर किछु सोझी नाही भरमे भूला बूडि मरै ॥
Bin saṯgur kicẖẖ sojẖī nāhī bẖarme bẖūlā būd marai.
Without the True Guru, you will not understand; deluded by doubt, you shall drown and die.

ਅੰਧਾ ਭਰਿਆ ਭਰਿ ਭਰਿ ਧੋਵੈ ਅੰਤਰ ਕੀ ਮਲੁ ਕਦੇ ਨ ਲਹੈ ॥
अंधा भरिआ भरि भरि धोवै अंतर की मलु कदे न लहै ॥
Anḏẖā bẖari▫ā bẖar bẖar ḏẖovai anṯar kī mal kaḏe na lahai.
The spiritually blind are filled with filth and pollution; they may wash, but the filth within shall never depart.

ਨਾਮ ਬਿਨਾ ਫੋਕਟ ਸਭਿ ਕਰਮਾ ਜਿਉ ਬਾਜੀਗਰੁ ਭਰਮਿ ਭੁਲੈ ॥੧॥
नाम बिना फोकट सभि करमा जिउ बाजीगरु भरमि भुलै ॥१॥
Nām binā fokat sabẖ karmā ji▫o bājīgar bẖaram bẖulai. ||1||
Without the Naam, the Name of the Lord, all their actions are useless, like the magician who deceives through illusions. ||1||

ਖਟੁ ਕਰਮ ਨਾਮੁ ਨਿਰੰਜਨੁ ਸੋਈ ॥
खटु करम नामु निरंजनु सोई ॥
Kẖat karam nām niranjan so▫ī.
The merits of the six religious rituals are obtained through the Immaculate Naam.

ਤੂ ਗੁਣ ਸਾਗਰੁ ਅਵਗੁਣ ਮੋਹੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
तू गुण सागरु अवगुण मोही ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥
Ŧū guṇ sāgar avguṇ mohī. ||1|| rahā▫o.
You, O Lord, are the Ocean of virtue; I am so unworthy. ||1||Pause||

ਮਾਇਆ ਧੰਧਾ ਧਾਵਣੀ ਦੁਰਮਤਿ ਕਾਰ ਬਿਕਾਰ ॥
माइआ धंधा धावणी दुरमति कार बिकार ॥
Mā▫i▫ā ḏẖanḏẖā ḏẖāvṇī ḏurmaṯ kār bikār.
Running around chasing the entanglements of Maya is an evil-minded act of corruption.

ਮੂਰਖੁ ਆਪੁ ਗਣਾਇਦਾ ਬੂਝਿ ਨ ਸਕੈ ਕਾਰ ॥
मूरखु आपु गणाइदा बूझि न सकै कार ॥
Mūrakẖ āp gaṇā▫iḏā būjẖ na sakai kār.
The fool makes a show of his self-conceit; he does not know how to behave.

ਮਨਸਾ ਮਾਇਆ ਮੋਹਣੀ ਮਨਮੁਖ ਬੋਲ ਖੁਆਰ ॥
मनसा माइआ मोहणी मनमुख बोल खुआर ॥
Mansā mā▫i▫ā mohṇī manmukẖ bol kẖu▫ār.
The self-willed manmukh is enticed by his desires for Maya; his words are useless and empty.

ਮਜਨੁ ਝੂਠਾ ਚੰਡਾਲ ਕਾ ਫੋਕਟ ਚਾਰ ਸੀਂਗਾਰ ॥੨॥
मजनु झूठा चंडाल का फोकट चार सींगार ॥२॥
Majan jẖūṯẖā cẖandāl kā fokat cẖār sīʼngār. ||2||
The ritual cleansing of the sinner are fraudulent; his rituals and decorations are useless and empty. ||2||

ਝੂਠੀ ਮਨ ਕੀ ਮਤਿ ਹੈ ਕਰਣੀ ਬਾਦਿ ਬਿਬਾਦੁ ॥
झूठी मन की मति है करणी बादि बिबादु ॥
Jẖūṯẖī man kī maṯ hai karṇī bāḏ bibāḏ.
False is the wisdom of the mind; its actions inspire useless disputes.

ਝੂਠੇ ਵਿਚਿ ਅਹੰਕਰਣੁ ਹੈ ਖਸਮ ਨ ਪਾਵੈ ਸਾਦੁ ॥
झूठे विचि अहंकरणु है खसम न पावै सादु ॥
Jẖūṯẖe vicẖ ahankaraṇ hai kẖasam na pāvai sāḏ.
The false are filled with egotism; they do not obtain the sublime taste of their Lord and Master.

ਬਿਨੁ ਨਾਵੈ ਹੋਰੁ ਕਮਾਵਣਾ ਫਿਕਾ ਆਵੈ ਸਾਦੁ ॥
बिनु नावै होरु कमावणा फिका आवै सादु ॥
Bin nāvai hor kamāvaṇā fikā āvai sāḏ.
Without the Name, whatever else they do is tasteless and insipid.

ਦੁਸਟੀ ਸਭਾ ਵਿਗੁਚੀਐ ਬਿਖੁ ਵਾਤੀ ਜੀਵਣ ਬਾਦਿ ॥੩॥
दुसटी सभा विगुचीऐ बिखु वाती जीवण बादि ॥३॥
Ḏustī sabẖā vigucẖī▫ai bikẖ vāṯī jīvaṇ bāḏ. ||3||
Associating with their enemies, they are plundered and ruined. Their speech is poison, and their lives are useless. ||3||

ਏ ਭ੍ਰਮਿ ਭੂਲੇ ਮਰਹੁ ਨ ਕੋਈ ॥
ए भ्रमि भूले मरहु न कोई ॥
Ė bẖaram bẖūle marahu na ko▫ī.
Do not be deluded by doubt; do not invite your own death.

ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਸੇਵਿ ਸਦਾ ਸੁਖੁ ਹੋਈ ॥
सतिगुरु सेवि सदा सुखु होई ॥
Saṯgur sev saḏā sukẖ ho▫ī.
Serve the True Guru, and you shall be at peace forever.

ਬਿਨੁ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੁਕਤਿ ਕਿਨੈ ਨ ਪਾਈ ॥
बिनु सतिगुर मुकति किनै न पाई ॥
Bin saṯgur mukaṯ kinai na pā▫ī.
Without the True Guru, no one is liberated.

ਆਵਹਿ ਜਾਂਹਿ ਮਰਹਿ ਮਰਿ ਜਾਈ ॥੪॥
आवहि जांहि मरहि मरि जाई ॥४॥
Āvahi jāʼnhi marėh mar jā▫ī. ||4||
They come and go in reincarnation; they die, only to be reborn and die again. ||4||

ਏਹੁ ਸਰੀਰੁ ਹੈ ਤ੍ਰੈ ਗੁਣ ਧਾਤੁ ॥
एहु सरीरु है त्रै गुण धातु ॥
Ėhu sarīr hai ṯarai guṇ ḏẖāṯ.
This body wanders, caught in the three dispositions.

ਇਸ ਨੋ ਵਿਆਪੈ ਸੋਗ ਸੰਤਾਪੁ ॥
इस नो विआपै सोग संतापु ॥
Is no vi▫āpai sog sanṯāp.
It is afflicted by sorrow and suffering.

ਸੋ ਸੇਵਹੁ ਜਿਸੁ ਮਾਈ ਨ ਬਾਪੁ ॥
सो सेवहु जिसु माई न बापु ॥
So sevhu jis mā▫ī na bāp.
So serve the One who has no mother or father.

ਵਿਚਹੁ ਚੂਕੈ ਤਿਸਨਾ ਅਰੁ ਆਪੁ ॥੫॥
विचहु चूकै तिसना अरु आपु ॥५॥
vicẖahu cẖūkai ṯisnā ar āp. ||5||
Desire and selfishness shall depart from within. ||5||

ਜਹ ਜਹ ਦੇਖਾ ਤਹ ਤਹ ਸੋਈ ॥
जह जह देखा तह तह सोई ॥
Jah jah ḏekẖā ṯah ṯah so▫ī.
Wherever I look, I see Him.

ਬਿਨੁ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਭੇਟੇ ਮੁਕਤਿ ਨ ਹੋਈ ॥
बिनु सतिगुर भेटे मुकति न होई ॥
Bin saṯgur bẖete mukaṯ na ho▫ī.
Without meeting the True Guru, no one is liberated.

ਹਿਰਦੈ ਸਚੁ ਏਹ ਕਰਣੀ ਸਾਰੁ ॥
हिरदै सचु एह करणी सारु ॥
Hirḏai sacẖ eh karṇī sār.
Enshrine the True One in your heart; this is the most excellent action.

ਹੋਰੁ ਸਭੁ ਪਾਖੰਡੁ ਪੂਜ ਖੁਆਰੁ ॥੬॥
होरु सभु पाखंडु पूज खुआरु ॥६॥
Hor sabẖ pakẖand pūj kẖu▫ār. ||6||
All other hypocritical actions and devotions bring only ruin. ||6||

ਦੁਬਿਧਾ ਚੂਕੈ ਤਾਂ ਸਬਦੁ ਪਛਾਣੁ ॥
दुबिधा चूकै तां सबदु पछाणु ॥
Ḏubiḏẖā cẖūkai ṯāʼn sabaḏ pacẖẖāṇ.
When one is rid of duality, then he realizes the Word of the Shabad.

ਘਰਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਏਕੋ ਕਰਿ ਜਾਣੁ ॥
घरि बाहरि एको करि जाणु ॥
Gẖar bāhar eko kar jāṇ.
Inside and out, he knows the One Lord.

ਏਹਾ ਮਤਿ ਸਬਦੁ ਹੈ ਸਾਰੁ ॥
एहा मति सबदु है सारु ॥
Ėhā maṯ sabaḏ hai sār.
This is the most Excellent Wisdom of the Shabad.

ਵਿਚਿ ਦੁਬਿਧਾ ਮਾਥੈ ਪਵੈ ਛਾਰੁ ॥੭॥
विचि दुबिधा माथै पवै छारु ॥७॥
vicẖ ḏubiḏẖā māthai pavai cẖẖār. ||7||
Ashes fall on the heads of those who are in duality. ||7||

ਕਰਣੀ ਕੀਰਤਿ ਗੁਰਮਤਿ ਸਾਰੁ ॥
करणी कीरति गुरमति सारु ॥
Karṇī kīraṯ gurmaṯ sār.
To praise the Lord through the Guru's Teachings is the most excellent action.

ਸੰਤ ਸਭਾ ਗੁਣ ਗਿਆਨੁ ਬੀਚਾਰੁ ॥
संत सभा गुण गिआनु बीचारु ॥
Sanṯ sabẖā guṇ gi▫ān bīcẖār.
In the Society of the Saints, contemplate the Glories of God and His spiritual wisdom.

ਮਨੁ ਮਾਰੇ ਜੀਵਤ ਮਰਿ ਜਾਣੁ ॥
मनु मारे जीवत मरि जाणु ॥
Man māre jīvaṯ mar jāṇ.
Whoever subdues his mind, knows the state of being dead while yet alive.

ਨਾਨਕ ਨਦਰੀ ਨਦਰਿ ਪਛਾਣੁ ॥੮॥੩॥
नानक नदरी नदरि पछाणु ॥८॥३॥
Nānak naḏrī naḏar pacẖẖāṇ. ||8||3||
O Nanak, by His Grace, the Gracious Lord is realized. ||8||3||

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Good point by gyani ji, i believe its addressed to specific mindset which undermines/reject basic framework as well, act like dry intellectuals- kitabi gyani devoid of any personal experience as they are just dry intellectual group.

However, on contrary its also quite valid and true. If we won't have clear understanding intrinsically deep down regarding absolute reality or ultimate aim then one have great tendency to get carried away on semantics on things such as counting etc and turning them into dogma so i believe pure cognitive perception (bibek, gyan khand mein gyan parchand) is always needed so absolute view- underpins everything, contextualize everything.

Many Sikhs do not believe Dasam Granth is Gurbani (at least parts of it) and to us, it's blasphemous to associate something false to our Guru Ji.

Let me correct or rephrase the above misguided statement, many reformist and revisionist sikhs don't beleive in full sri dasam granth sahib as gurbani. Traditional sikh orders such as (Nihang, DDT, 3ho-udasi influence, udasi, nirmale, hazoori sikhs from hazoor sahib, five pillars of sikhism- five takths and its jathedar) all beleive in sri dasam granth being full gurbani, there is no question about it as they understand multi aspect divine, absolute- relative framework behind it.

So ended up bitting a bullet got brand new DSLR nikon d750 with nikor 70-300mm vr lense..now gotta take quick small course on how this works..i was able to finally figure different auto focus setting... shutter speed, and other setting are next.

Check it out guys, canadian national political debate:

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I really think it will end up in ndp and liberal coalition. Mulcair is willing to join hands with liberal and make liberal party as head as ndp offered in the past to stephen dion pm position to overthrow harper but they rejected the support but this time around Justin be forced to take help from ndp..justin down plays it and rejected coalition now but he is playing game and try to gauge his support and votes..deep down side he knows he will need support from ndp to beat conservatives one way or another otherwise it be another crappy selection with conservatives winning even with less majority

Zen buddhist have similar questions, they are called koans ..very interesting check it out:

Real neo nazi fascist scum finally comes out from their closet. 

If thats a case guest ji, you should post more often either via guest id or registered id to save the forum from rss attacks by posting tat gurmat. 

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So complicated, I beleive absolute reality is non dual one pure universal jot (Awareness/knowledge) expressing itself in its creation/destruction (Ikongkar) can be expereinced by gurparsad (Grace of guru- the ONE) and thats all there is to it. Whilst, above defination of terms are good for understanding purposes, trancedence but its not a requirement if one is clearly, vividly drawn to ONE.

Absolute reality is simple its our very nature of being- pure awareness common matrix/seer of all experiences, it only becomes complicated when absolute reality(one non dual block) is further fragmented into relative realities, when it needs to be looked into fragmented reality (relative realities).

In absolute none of above exist, there is no distinction, its literally one just for understanding purposes but even beyond conceptual one as if there is one and there is implication of two, its beyond one and two- pure advait vahiguru.

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Gurbani example, Guru maharaj here redefines shariat, tariqat, marfat and hakikat religious framework towards higher reality - one pointedness. Uthanka states its a updesh to muslim but gurbani essence is eternal it applies to all as most religious people follow have similiar framework of their religion and often do get stuck at shariat, tariqat level: