2 hours ago, kdsingh80 said:

I use opera and there is too much problem , if quote post in some topic then that post just stick in reply , you can't even delete it. I always use opera but this is new problem 

70% percent of users are using chrome/firefox and 20% are using IE. Download and install chrome as there is nothing much as we use we pre-defined interface by invision power services.

Edit function is fine and enabled its only deleting post which is disabled.

http://www.srigurusinghsabhamalton.com/fullvideo1.php

This issue is causing huge uproar in social media.

On one hand, i do feel yoga is been definitely misinterpreted by western hippies so some awareness is needed (via lecture/discourses) is needed to filter from reformist western hippy yoga everything goes to original one but on another hand, this case is been over blown by hindu nationalist parties (right wing) here in canada which is more dangerous in itself as they try to ban yoga by putting their own trademark of it

I am staunchly against right wing agenda of banning anything that somehow yoga is owned by hindus, buddhist or even sikhs. I think once we start getting into nationalist ideas it becomes very slippery slope, that point we need to draw clear line. 

Like for example - if different group start langar tradition by getting inspired by sikh langar tradtion..we wouldn't ban it ...we would be happy for it. atleast i hope so.

Hindus should worry about fascist rss group in their own country than worrying about harmless young yoga teacher trying to bring mindfulness, positive change in people's life.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/university-ottawa-yoga-cultural-sensitivity-1.3330441

People take part in a yoga session on Parliament Hill in Ottawa earlier this year. A free yoga class at the University of Ottawa was cancelled partly because of cultural concerns, but some members of Ottawa's Hindu community say they don't feel offended by it. (THE CANADIAN PRESS/Justin Tang)

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A yoga instructor who says her free class at the University of Ottawa was cancelled because of concerns over cultural appropriation believes the student union's issues are misplaced.

Jen Scharf said she's been teaching a free yoga class for the university's Centre for Students with Disabilities, which is run by the Student Federation of the University of Ottawa, for the last seven years.

Jen Scharf says she focuses on the physical benefits of yoga and doesn't play up the spiritual side of it, which she says some instructors can be guilty of. (CBC)

When she checked back in with the centre in September, she said she was told by them the class wouldn't be happening because some students and volunteers were uncomfortable with the "cultural issues" involved.

"I guess it was this cultural appropriation issue because yoga originally comes from India," she said on Sunday. "I told them, 'Why don't we just change the name of the course?' It's simple enough, just call it mindful stretching.… We're not going through the finer points of scripture. We're talking about basic physical awareness and how to stretch so that you feel good.

"That went back and forth… The higher-ups at the student federation got involved, finally we got an email routed through the student federation basically saying they couldn't get a French name and nobody wants to do it, so we're going to cancel it for now."

Cultural appropriation is when a culture that's seen as an oppressor borrows or steals elements of a culture they're oppressing. Scharf said there is also concern over yoga instructors who claim to be experts in the more spiritual aspects of yoga, but aren't.

"I'm not claiming it's anything more than a physical practice within that class," she said. "There's been so much positivity and so many people positively helped by this, and that's part of the reason why I'm fighting so hard to keep it.

"Those issues are important issues and they should be raised but it's not me they should be mad at; it's the fake people that are making claims they can't possibly substantiate."

'More accessible' class could return

Scharf said she'd love to start her class again but hasn't found a place or organization at the university willing to host it.

In a French-language interview with Radio-Canada, student federation president Roméo Ahimakin said there were no direct complaints about the class, more general questions about the issues and ideas around it.

Ahimakin said they suspended the class as part of a review of all their programs to make them more interesting, accessible, inclusive and responsive to the needs of students.

He said they're doing consultations on the idea of bringing a free yoga class back and could get a more accessible version of it as soon as the next semester starts in January.

On Monday the University of Ottawa tweeted out a notice that it's organizing free yoga sessions Dec. 1, 8 and 15 at its University Centre. One yoga teacher at the school emailed CBC News to say the university does that during exams and through the summer so there are other yoga options on campus.

 

Yoga seen as spiritual, not religious

There have been concerns among some Hindus over how yoga has crossed over to the Western world. For instance, the Hindu American Foundation's "Take Back Yoga" campaign is against yoga's commercialization.

Girija Waghray says yoga is spiritual, not religious. (CBC)

But at the Hindu Temple of Ottawa-Carleton, one husband and wife said they didn't have an issue with what they've seen around the community and didn't agree with the idea that non-Hindus teaching yoga is culturally insensitive.

"In Hindi 'yog' means to unite. To unite with who? With your true self. That's what yoga is. Here we tend to relate it with the postures but it's not just postures... and it has nothing to do with religion," said Girija Waghray, who's been teaching yoga around Ottawa for more than 10 years.

"It's basically focusing on our health. By calming our mind, our mind becomes positive." 

Dilip Waghray said he's been practising yoga for 50 years and while he's uncomfortable with how it's been commercialized in the West, he chooses to focus on the benefits it's having.

"When I saw what was happening [with big crowds for free yoga] on Parliament Hill I was thrilled and probably a little bit ashamed that my body wasn't as flexible as theirs. I said, 'Wow,' and the first thing I did was share with my classmates back home," he said.

"If you look at what the Western world has adapted it is just phenomenal. Imagine how much good they're doing for themselves. They'll live a long and very happy life."

On 11/20/2015, 11:56:10, paapiman said:

ਜਿਸੁ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ਮਾਇਆ ਸਿਲਕ ਕਾਟੀ ॥

By whose grace the fetters of the mammon are cut off.

ਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਬਿਖੁ ਖਾਟੀ ॥

By whose favour, the sour poison has become Nectar.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

 

 

Great practical example of gurbani tuk can be found in the sakhi of baba khuda singh ji maharaj from naurangabad/hoti mardan lineage when enemy trying feeding poison mixed with milk to baba ji, baba ji janaie jaan proactively asked for milk from person which he mixed poison int... as soon baba ji touched the milk it was turned into amrit.

http://www.bliss-music.com/nondual_awareness.htm#.VlMR03arTDc

How to Remain in Nondual Awareness

"An object
does not become an object
that is separate from you
until you define it.

In order to not define it,
you simply remain in the awareness
that is prior to thinking.

You do not allow your attention 
to leave awareness
to become fixated on thinking;
rather, attention remains resting 
in itself as consciousness.

When you remain in awareness,
then any object you see
is experienced as part of nondual awareness.

When you look outwardly in this way,
you do not experience a bunch of separate objects,
you see and experience everything
as one consciousness.

Only when you get into definitions
does everything become separate objects.

So you can practice
remaining in nondual awareness
without getting involved in definitions,
without getting involved with thinking.

If thoughts come,
you can treat them in the same way.

In meditation, if you remain in awareness
without getting involved 
in the content of the thoughts,
then the thoughts do not become
separate things
but remain as consciousness itself.
They may not even fully form into thoughts.

But the key is to let your attention
remain fully resting in nondual awareness.
If you do this, thoughts will stop all together.

Much love,


Kip" 

There is no technical issue as such, we have purposely disabled a function - where users can delete their own post. This is to ensure or maintain integrity of the discussion.

Hope that helps

This topic of hidden allegorical meaning is very important so most of religious people have little or no idea regarding metaphors/allegory behind the scriptural reference and they end up falling or confining themselves into very black and white rigid literal interpretations

Yes heard of the mosque, lots of islamaphobia.....our gurdwaras should be alert as well should have cctv. Even hindu temple got attacked recently. Dump  punk ass red neck gorrehs.

What you think we should do with racist nut job if they caught in gurdwara? I say - feed them spicy  food langar. LOL

Pappiman, its about time you take your bhramin-punjabi tribal penduism rubbish somewhere else. Importance of having son over daughter may be significant during monarchy time for survival of kingdom but it has no significance in sikhi and today's time. 

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 I 100% agree we should not loose momentum

We need to realize that what punjab gov't is doing make us loose momentum. They arrested new jathedars temporary for few weeks and then they will release them- hoping sarbat khalsa waters down breaks the momentum, but with election campaign they cannot really do that.

We need to think big, we are so gullible we get attached to these small pointers - jathedars not look at the root. There is already divisions on appointment on jathedars, sikhs are divided once again.

You seem to have a clear agenda here masquerading behind an research or an student. What exactly you are trying to prove here? 

http://thetruthandthesignal.blogspot.ca/2015/11/remembrance-day-musings-on-lieutenant.html

Remembrance Day Musings on Lieutenant-Colonel Harjit Sajjan, Minster of National Defence - Guest Post by C. Scott John

(Note I realize this is almost impossible to read on mobile - I'm working on that, though Blogger is NOT behaving.)

A good friend of mine posted a really fantastic reflection about his experiences in the military reflected in the light of Harjit Sajjan being named Minister of National Defence. Scott entered the military at the same time as Sajjan (as is outlined below) and had some experience with Sajjan over their years of service.  I'll let Scott fill in the details.
Scott posted this on Facebook and it immediately had a response from people that they would like to share it - I heartily agree, and thus I am doing my part here with permission of the author.

Over to Scott... 


My semi-regular Remembrance Day musings ( I know I am early, but I have toddlers so have to take advantage of any free time I have).
I am thinking of current affairs this year. I am sure everyone has heard of Harjit Sajjan being appointed as Minister of National Defence. 
While I certainly can't claim to really know him on a personal level, I met and had conversations with him on a professional basis quite a number of times.
I joined the military at the same time and place he did,1989 in Vancouver and was able to bear some witness to his experiences firsthand. The community of soldiers in Vancouver was and is quite small and most of us knew each other to some extent.
It might be shocking to think that at that time turbans were not allowed in the RCMP and were effectively unheard of in the military. Even years later, Sikhs were not even allowed to enter Canadian Legions because of a rule insisting that they had to remove their headdress. He would have been allowed to march in the Remembrance Day parade and attend festivities which almost certainly terminated at a Legion, but not come and sit with his colleagues for the many hours of stories and celebrations afterwards (even if he didn't drink alcohol). I wish I could sit down and ask him about how it felt for him on that most important of days for a soldier to feel unwelcome and excluded from the camaraderie of those who had donned a uniform.. Was there a place for him where he was welcomed in those early days? I hope so.
The Forces at the time were not exactly bastions of individual liberty that embraced uniqueness. Heck, it took a decade to convince them that my desire to have a left handed holster for my pistol (which as a Military Police officer could have been the difference between life and death) wasn't just me wanting to disrupt good order and discipline. Even then I had to go buy it myself as it would have been unseemly to actually issue me one.
Minister Sajjan was one of the first to test those rules and the institutional intolerance and racism. I have heard that he was refused from one army regiment before he was "allowed" to join another.
His being allowed to wear a turban with his uniform was big news in every mess around the area, and universally decried as offensive. Comments ranged from mere condemnation of him not wanting to be "like us"... all the way to threats of violence.
I wish I could say I was a bigger defender of his rights, I largely ignored it as just talk. The only time I remember calling someone on their crap was when someone was making the comments that it was unsafe to allow him to serve because he couldn't wear a gas mask and helmet... I recall shrugging my shoulders and saying that they have somehow managed in the Indian and British armies for the last couple hundred years.
My first impression of him as a young officer (I don't recall having spoken with him before he was commissioned) was that he was cold and unfriendly... as an MP that wasn't too odd of a reaction to my presence so it never really occurred to me that it could have been a result of battling daily against near universal disdain for his turban from low level soldiers, all the way up the chain of command to the most senior officers.
As time passed, it seemed like everyone just got used to seeing him, though in my own experience I didn't see a lot of overt acceptance... I wasn't a part of his regiment and left the military in 2005, so I only have an observer's perspective. I can only assume that within his own unit, he more quickly just became another soldier to be judged on his merits.
Fast forward to a few days ago. He was appointed as the Minister responsible for the entire Canadian Military (what the hell did I do with my life if we both started at the same time and he managed that).
I have many friends who served in the military and belong to a number of veteran related groups. The response to his appointment has been effectively universally hailed as a major victory by soldiers of all political persuasions. One of "us" (an actual soldier) was now in charge. ONE OF US... let that resonate a little.
In my own experience, I can tie a thread from my first days in the military where he was considered an unwelcome anomaly... all the way to him being lauded as a standard bearer for all soldiers.
I feel like I was a witness to history, something that will or should be in textbooks for students to learn in every high school social studies class.
I think it is important to remember that some of these battles are recent, some yet to even be fought. At the same time I amazed at how far we have come in my own time. While it may seem to be glacially-paced to those living it, in the perspective of history it will be considered to have happened at lightning speed... within the arc of a single man's career. 
This Remembrance Day I will be scanning the faces of the soldiers walking by on parade and will be paying special attention to the various colours of skin, diversity, and whether there are a few more turbans on the heads of young Sikh warriors. I will see it as a trail blazoned by pioneers such as Minister Sajjan and others. I will stand a little straighter in my own uniform because of it.

 

at 16:55 

Labels: Harjit Sajjan, Minister of National Defence, Remembrance Day

Where is gurbani gnosis / metaphysics in this course? 

Is it true he tried shagging vulnerable piggie? 

It's ok do that once an while, just sit back and relax its fun to watch ego leap out as water waves and let ego leap out of stateless state-ocean but after a moment ego goes back to our real self - stateless state, pure peace and awareness and that is all of us- primordial awareness and peace.

The real challenge is not so much stopping ego leaping out (thoughts) etc but rather  we indentify or attached with ego individuality but rather witnessing our our own ego(thoughts/conditioned mind) have bridge between mind and real self (heart), and real challenge is rather we keep identifying with ego. That's why constant naam simran (truth remembrance) is soo important so we never forget our stateless state - real self even for a second. 

On 1/3/2004, 6:59:57, Ideal Singh said:

Lalleswari once said : we should consider Sikhs being the original Hindus...

 

Please discuss.

My own thoughts, no thanks. Rather all hindus should consider themselves as Sikhs if some crazy sikh nationalist allows them. 

First of all hindu word is now been hijacked by hindu nationalist rss and other RIGHT wing nut jobs. Hindu term mentioned widely agreed by scholars has been used in the past to only describe indic land and various indic traditions and religion, Hindu(ism) is british establishment. 

More ancient term Sikh or snatan than hindu as hindu term is no where to be found in vedas and old scripture. 

Minister of Defense in Canada goes to Singh - Harjit Singh Sajjan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minister_of_National_Defence_(Canada)

Not sure how i feel about this? Most sikhs do swearing of oaths of gurbani as they consider gurbani as their "ishat guru" not meaning to disrespect.

Op/Ed: Can Swearing of Oaths on Gurbani Lead to Beadbi?

In light of the recent incidences of beadbi, or disrespect, of Gurbani that have taken place in Punjab, Sikhs across the world have awoken to the need to protect and defend Sri Guru Granth Sahib and Gutka Sahibs from disrespect.

An often neglected aspect of beadbi that occurs regularly is the swearing of oaths on gurbani.  This often occurs in court proceedings, but also when elected officials take their oaths of office.

The UK’s Adult Court Bench Book says with respect to Sikhs, “Their holy scripture is known as the Guru Granth Sahib, and a portion of it known as the Sunder Gutka may be suitable for the purposes of swearing an oath in court proceedings.”

Many courthouses therefore have Sunder Gutkas and even small saroops of Sri Guru Granth Sahib that are kept amongst other religious texts.  They are not given proper respect and are used to swear oaths by individuals who are often wearing shoes, not covering their heads and with unclean hands. 

In the early 1980s in British Columbia, a Sikh who was not keshdhari was called to testify at a trial.  When he was being sworn in, a small saroop of Sri Guru Granth Sahib was handed to him.  When he saw this, he immediately covered his head and took off his shoes, shocking all those present who had no idea what respect Gurbani is afforded by Sikhs.  The matter reached the Sikh community, which contacted the Solicitor General, and a total of 35 small saroops of Sri Guru Granth Sahib were recovered from British Columbia courtrooms and then brought to Vancouver’s Khalsa Diwan Society. 

The concept of swearing an oath upon Gurbani is against the principles of Sikhi.  Gurbani is the divine word of God and must not be disrespected by being used for oaths in mundane worldly matters.  We bring serious disrespect to Gurbani by using it to swear oaths in criminal, civil and family matters. 

Some elected officials have taken great pride in swearing their Oath of Office on Gurbani.  This too should be discouraged as Gurbani is not some other “holy book”; it is the living Guru of Sikhs and must be given the utmost respect.  Gurbani is to be read, reflected upon and absorbed.  Not as a prop to swear worldly oaths.

The solution is simple:  Sikhs should avoid taking Oaths and simply choose to Affirm by raising their right hands and solemnly pledging.  Gurbani gutkas and saroops of Sri Guru Granth Sahib that are currently being used for this purpose should be taken back by the Sikh community and given the proper respect and treatment they deserve. 

 

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