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IS THE HUB EVER COMING UP AGAIN > ?

also you can't eliminate sikhi its not possible

bimel, seems a very happy charater it cant get any better that that...welcoem to the forum

http://www.gurmatsangeetproject.com have a look in here they have loads of info

How would you like to have access to almost 100 years of illustrated newspaper articles about Punjabis in the Press? The United Kingdom Punjab Heritage Association’s new website http://www.punjabarchive.org brings you closer to that ultimate on-line reference source. The new website has been described by BBC Television's South Asia Correspondent, Navdip Dhariwal as “a fascinating window into Punjab's history. . .  great journalism from the past coupled with innovative technology makes www.punjabarchive.org a fascinating, informative and fun experience " This is the first step taken to create an electronic web-based archive highlighting the extensive body of material relating to the Punjab as reported in illustrated and non illustrated Victorian newspapers. The material graphically illustrates the shared heritage and contribution of Punjabis in world history, especially in relation to the building of the British Empire in the second half of the 19th century. Nearly all of the newspapers are profusely illustrated with evocative woodblock engravings and photographs, and cover a range of events and characters, many significant, some curious but nearly all little known. Highlights of the important events between Punjabi Muslims, Hindus and Sikhs with the British include: The land and people of the Punjab ruled by Maharaja Ranjit Singh The two Anglo-Sikh wars (1845-6, 1848-9) and subsequent annexation of the Punjab to British India in 1849 Maharaja Duleep Singh – the first Sikh known to have settled in England in 1854. The Punjabi contribution to the development of the British Empire in military campaigns in Asia, Africa and Europe (1860s - 1900s) The largely unheralded role of Punjabis in World War I and II The material represented in this website is from a private collection. We are grateful to the owner for their permission to access their valuable archive. UKPHA The UK Punjab Heritage Association (“UKPHAâ€) is a non-profit voluntary organisation based in Greater London. The Association was founded in 2001 to foster the appreciation of the Punjabi heritage in Britain and encourage the preservation of endangered items of the Punjabi material heritage. If you have a query, require assistance with your own projects or would like to support us, please contact us on sicques@gmail.com

damn, I just put this pic up for laugh

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Fantastic Can't wait

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4714975.stm Sikh 'angels' without a home By Susannah Cullinane BBC News website in Birmingham Any initiated Sikh - male or female- can lead scripture readings or other religious ceremonies In a suburban sitting room in the Walmley area of Birmingham, about 10 women gather, dressed in headscarves and white shalwar kameez. The sitting room belongs to Gurdev Kaur, and the women are all members of Sikh Nari Manch, the action group she founded to help empower women in general and Sikh women in particular. Sikh Nari Manch (SNM) began with a choir in 1997 and the white clothing is the uniform of its membership of up to about 100. The group also meets to read scripture and practice yoga. Mrs Kaur says she has tried to give Sikh women in her area somewhere to go. The nearest Sikh temple, or gurdwara, is in Handsworth - several miles away and too far for many of them. "Some were so isolated they had nowhere to go, there was no facility." We are taught all people are one, whether of another sex, race or caste Gurdev Kaur The Sikh faith - the fourth largest religion in Britain - has always believed in the equality of the sexes, Mrs Kaur says. "It's a very liberal religion. We are taught all people are one, whether of another sex, race or caste." Another member of SNM, pharmacist Jasvinder Kaur Bhambra, says: "Women have always been able to do whatever men can do - they have full rights and equality, theoretically. "Culturally, men still like to pretend they're in charge." The women are trying to live by the three "golden principles" of their faith - earn your living through honest means, give to the needy, remember God always and help their community. Mrs Kaur describes what SNM is doing as "important on a small scale". The problem is they see us as someone Asian, they might mistake us for other communities and they feel threatened Jasvinder Kaur Bhambra SNM raises funds through its choir - which has sung all over the UK from local events to the Royal Albert Hall in London. It has used its earnings to print calendars of famous Sikh women and distribute thousands of them for free, to raise the profile of women in the religion. The money has also been used to help the community at large. Other SNM activities include holding lunches for care home residents, running inter-faith residential camps for women and donating money to charities. Homeless But the organisation currently has no home, meeting at Mrs Kaur's house or in temporary halls. With some 15,000 Sikh and Asian families living in the north of Birmingham, SNM has been trying to start a centre in the Erdington area. This would act as a gurdwara, a drop-in centre for women of all faiths and a place for after-school activities for youths. "We've been doing work in the community for the last seven years and there are now 15,000 Sikh and Asian families in the area, but no culturally sensitive facilities for them," Mrs Kaur says. There's a place for Christians - why not other groups that have been living there for 50 years? Avtar Singh She says the first attempt to secure a building took three years, but "then there was another better choice, a better building, but we had so much hassle from other people". She suspects the search was obstructed for racial reasons. When SNM was looking at one of the buildings, the British National Party (BNP) called for a full traffic survey as part of the planning process, she said. "The problem is they see us as someone Asian, they might mistake us for other communities and they feel threatened. "It's really frustrating when they treat us with such hostility." The BNP, who could not confirm that any of their members had called for a full traffic survey, said the issue of who was behind the request was irrelevant. A BNP spokesman said: "It is a question of traffic - it doesn't matter who is asking. Town planning "If the people involved were white it wouldn't be an issue and if it was the Conservative party asking for a survey I don't think it would be an issue." Other community leaders have shown considerable support for the women. Businessman Alan Shrimpton, of the Bournville Village Trust, saw the choir singing in the late 1990s and helped it obtain temporary premises for its projects. "I know you don't believe in angels, but you know, where you were standing you looked like angels to me," Mrs Kaur quotes him as saying. Mrs Kaur's husband, Avtar Singh, says he believes there is an issue at government level regarding faith centres. He says the 1992 Religious Education Act allows for equal religious representation - but that this legislation has not been reflected elsewhere. In pictures: Sikhs in Britain In India, Mr Singh says, local authorities must include areas for all religions when planning new developments, but in Britain no provision is made for multi-faith facilities. "There's a place for Christians - why not other groups that have been living there for 50 years?" he asks. "If you don't provide facilities, it provokes resentment and you'll have conflicts." A Birmingham City Council spokeswoman said established planning procedures had to be followed in all cases. In a statement on its website, the council says all people have a right to "equality of opportunity and equity in the way they are treated and in the services they need, want and receive". The council's equality mission seems to echo the all-inclusiveness of Sikhism. Mrs Kaur says that because it is an internal faith, expressed through a way of life, in a way anyone can be a Sikh. The point, she says, is: "Whatever you are, be good."

got this from Karamsar East London Gurdwara

The rains and the blood that has dripped on the land of the once 5 rivers, As Manke says in Urbans Flavas 2, Shera Di Kaum Punjabi. Pira, Fakirs, Yudhas di Tarthi ( The land of the great saints,sages & Warriors) Sad times throught its history/cuture, Annexation,Partition and Sepration and Polictical unstability. Dedicated to you my ancestoral home. all the great Gurus,Saints, Warriors & People PLEASE ADD MORE PICS

Baba Farid Shakar Ganj http://www.punjab-state.com/ibooks/mystic_...baba_farid.php4 Shah Hussain http://www.punjab-state.com/ibooks/mystic_...ah_hussain.php4 Sultan Bahu http://www.punjab-state.com/ibooks/mystic_...ultan_bahu.php4 Ali Haider http://www.punjab-state.com/ibooks/mystic_...ali_haider.php4 Bulleh Shah http://www.punjab-state.com/ibooks/mystic_...ulleh_shah.php4 http://www.punjab-state.com/ from www.jattworld.com

z) If one were to listen and adopt all of these, then one would be Nihal with Akaal

will get on to it, have to ask Amandeep Singh, Amandeep is it ok if I put this on the net I got a chance to record a few of the talks

any news

is the HUB back yet ?

waheguru, makes beauty and then takes beauty, what rung rub has

I was asking Good old mum about this, and she said the classic line! "People start of with good intentions, but sowly want control of it, ie: place your man on the outskirts and then slowly move him up the ranks eventually becomes pardhan. I think the example was one of the local gurdwara's the man, started of coming, then became commitiee/secretary/ then treasurer/ then opted for pardhan but being a mona (hair cut Sikh) backed down after Sangat blasted him and said you have to practice Sikhi before you go in front of the sangat. I can see why people are concerned over this, 1st UNESCO, 2nd Attendances on meetings, 3rd joining the commitee, 4th being paid etc. Could this is me over thinking or just cautious?

Oh Dhol Bibi Jagir Kaur Dah Oh Ho!

India withdraws dossier on Golden Temple By Sanjay Bumbroo - TNS Jul 18, 2005, 21:33 Email this article Printer friendly page The Government of India has officially withdrawn the nomination of Harmandir Sahib proposed to be taken up for consideration at the 29th session of the World Heritage Committee. This has been confirmed through a communication, received by Dr Jasdev Singh Rai, a member of the UK-based Sikh Human Rights Group, from the Department for Culture, Media and Sports (a copy of which is in the possession of The Tribune). Earlier, the SGPC had unanimously passed a resolution to withdraw the dossier on the plea that Harmandir Sahib did not require recognition from UNESCO or any other international body. However, Indian government can reapply for the World Heritage Status in 2006. In case the dossier is sent again, the case could be heard by the year 2007, after a gap of two years. Talking to TNS on phone today, Dr Rai said the British Government had taken up the case of WHS (World Heritage Status) with the World Heritage Centre (WHC) on behalf of British Sikhs. Earlier, Dr Rai had raised an objection that Sikhs from all over the world had not been taken into confidence at the time of sending the dossier to UNESCO. Dr Rai said the representation made by the British Government was highly significant. British Sikhs now have the support from their own government in asserting their stake to Harmandir Darbar Sahib. Harmandir Sahib has an international significance for Sikhs all over the world. If the application is made again the British government will insist on consultation with British Sikhs as well Dr Rai said. Dr Rai also praised Bibi Jagir Kaur, president of the SGPC for maintaining a firm stand on the heritage matter and withdrawing SGPC’s support for the application. Dr Rai said SGPC chief had grasped the complexity of the issue and took a stand on Sikh principles. Dr Rai has also written to Bibi Jagir Kaur to take initiative in order to set up an International Gurdwara Parbhandikan Committee and get NGO consultative status at the UN like other religious communities. Powered by SikhSangat.com http://www.sikhsangat.org/publish/article_184.shtml

"A Namdhari Classical Dancer " I got nothing against dancing bhangra...braaah but, why do they have dancers? or am i mistaken, or are they dancing to the kirtan in a classical raag form, or am I just confused?

when he grew up he gradually thorugh circumstances removed his pagh/dhari etc and sometimes would only wear on occasions weddings etc. best this o singh is to get this book worth buying for details insight into the sad story of a lost raja Buy the Book brilliant pictures and details insight into the influences and http://www.duleepsingh.com/home.asp Amazon sell it for £18.99

Here's some interesting ones that sangat may not have seen I took these in 2005, as you go to the top of Harimander Sahib, and the steps that are at the back here are the top steps pictures Please someone translate if possible before they are white washed or changed to blend in with the rest of the new structure.

Pictures from 2005 Darshani Gate walls See how they have changed, from Art work to Honour of Regiments If I have made a mistake in the doors that we are talking about please set me stright these are pics from the behind the gate, and your cross the sarovar.