GurpreetKaur

Haha..yup, if you can see humor in battle of the sexes.

He meant souls can take different forms depending on their karams since he was talking about duality. Like we are women now but were in men form previously. And all that male and female body is irrelevant, like go to a doc and change your gender lol You are taking paapiman ji's anger on das ji btw lol. If men are full of ego as you pointed, with starting argument posts you are feeding their ego. You can never ever change somebody's opinion, who does not wanna change it. If someone consider a female body as a punishment, they are losing the bigger picture and without women there will be no man. And about karmic punishment, whether men or women they all go through it. Funny story since it's a joke section. i was reading an article by Sant isher singh ji about roohani marg and I read holy "men" and how "men"do bad things , I thought of women rights and you lol i was talking to someone and he said men are kaami( lusty), I was like women rights, no women are kaami too. My grandma and mom always call me putt ( son), I thought of women rights and you. You are changing me lol

Naw Muslims should put it down, if they give up guns and suicide bombing, Sikhs won't have to carry guns. Most of the violence on Sikhs are under the misconception Americans have. If 911 would not have happened maybe things would have been different in America but oh well. Vaheguroo ji's khel.

Yea that's how my Bua put it, kuri chakan aaya see tut paina, changa hoyea hasptal ch jama karta. Lol

I wanna know the name of paathi sahib ji too, it's so beautiful. Thank you ji for the link, they read Gurbani the way I can understand. Thank you.

No, we had one drunk guy with some weapon inside the gurughar about a month ago and he was Punjabi and wanted to just take his revenge on someone. He was arrested and nobody was harmed since the weapon he brought was not a gun and being intoxicated backfired him. He was pumped up by elders in the house to kidnap a woman from gurdwara sahib. Smh They kept him in mental hospital and then deported back to Punjab I think, hopefully he will do some inner work and realize controlling anger always serves a purpose. But no, I don't think any protection is around the gurughar that's why Wisconsin gurdwara went through pain.

True, I have no knowledge of politics, all I know over here, Sikhs go through stuff because Americans are not smart enough to know who is Muslim and who is sikh. But what this family went and is going through and especially the one who had to go through such a horrible death, I have no words. Thank you for sharing this, made me feel stupid for crying over simple things in life.

The pain this family is going through is too much. May Vaheguroo provide them courage and healing

Yea, I have been following acapella jatha since back in 2012. First shabad I heard was kach vigerya nahin haje jaag. Still my favorite. Thank you

Just realized timing is same so I'm glad . Thank you for the link, it will help me . Thank you, I used to hear him long time ago. I will try the simran.

Yea love acapella jatha and gursevak jatha. Their new simran at guru har rai gurdwara sahib is beautiful. You should make a video while doing it with guitar. I always like when when there is western twist to the kirtan and simran. Snatam Kaur was the first white girl I ever seen as a Sikh and especially doing kirtan. I was baffled and then learned about 3HO and I was more baffled. Lol found out so many white people( lack of better term) being Sikh, don't really agree with their whole technique about gurbani as mantra but if that helps people no harm. And true no one will grade me, human mind is crazy especially mine. It spend most of the time learning techniques rather than doing it. If I throw away all the distraction and just sit and use any method it will work lol Some wise man said that human always keep collecting techniques and never use them. Lol

Thank you, will try that. Appreciate it.

It's like 50 mins away and the gurdwara sahib I go to has no knowledge of naam simran. Even on Sunday, most of the people chill in langar hall while ragis are doing kirtan. I used to be one of those people so not blaming them lol but I have to do it on my own, I was trying to find an easy way out I think lol

I do naam simran but usually do it with some sort of video. I get feeling and love for vaheguroo when I do naam simran in that way rather than doing it all by myself. I tried doing it without any form of external method and my mind refused to go along. Sometime I do it while walking where with inhale I say vahe and exhale guroo. This method brings so much peace though. Thank you for the guidance.

I am so sorry, as long as she is not harming others does not matter what she calls herself. The day she will feel a connection with Sikhi she will get back.

Vaheguroo ji, There is a website I know, mysimraninfo which does Simran conferences two times a day. I tried two times But I guess I was the only one lol. I know everybody has different schedule and different timing But there is not a single source where people can tune in and can join the Naam simran?. Like an online source, where people can get on conference calls and we can have one person who can make us sit together to do Naam simran. I know there are many audios and live gurdwara sahibs broadcast but nothing works better than having a Guide or teacher, for my monkey mind especially which gets really heavy with spiritual acts one day and spend other days just reading about it rather than doing it, which I am doing at this very moment Sikhi should not become a business but if any person is willing to create and sell something Like E-sangat type of Simran, I am willing to buy lol. The mysimraninfo conference call idea is great But maybe because of timing nobody tune in. But when we go on youtube BOS, so many people check in the live stream but they are about giving information no Naam Simran. I am not from UK or Canada where I always see so much Naam Simran happening,My cousin told me how In canadian Gurdwara sahib Naam simran is always happening and they have so many Gurdwara sahib too, we have one very far away. In Amreeka, nobody care, we are doomed spiritually, somebody needs to save us lol Thank you, if said anything wrong sorry.

Not that I am aware of but it's all good. I think I will stick to reading the meaning of sggs rather than saying planning to do sehaj paath. Doing from phone or iPad does not give the satisfaction of doing from gutka sahib ji. Thank you . Main aim is to learn and get inspired which I can do with the help of Gursikhs who has done the translation.

Thank you, I can practice my punjabi reading over there too. Dhilli jayi hogee aa lol

Agree with what you say but by setting an example of so called justice, I will fail to set so many other examples which are above and beyond ego. When guru Amardas ji did not strike dattu ji back, he did not set an example of defeat. He did set an example of humility, humbleness, forgiving, dropping ego. You are right there is difference between being humble and taking defeat. But a defeat will always always make you humble. That does not mean always take defeat but don't think that people who choose to stay quiet instead of fighting when someone refused to do what they want lost a war. They won an inner battle. Also if I let my husband walk front of me,call him hanji and tusi when he says tu to me, and does not care that he would not do the dishes then that does not mean I have to be a housewife. My Aunty is a doctor and listen to my uncle like crazy, it's called respect. People go to gurdwara and do seva there, shoe seva is done too. They do it gain humbleness. I once read somewhere that treat your family like a Sangat. I know you would hate the idea of serving your husband but I don't. If I can't serve him, how can I do seva at gurdwara sahib and serve others. We both are on an ego trip, my ego tells me hey you have to be a saint under all condition and you wanna be a warrior. Getting rid of ego will always be hard but I did learn few things from you. Differences are apart but as a woman I do have respect for you especially when some people have been doing name callings and sorry if anything was so rude. I am not a saint yet lol.

Which will not always be right lol. And there are not many women on this forum but differences will always stay between two different culture since family influences us big time and both of us won't be totally right and at the same time both of us won't be all wrong. Oh well lol

Men = complain about being trapped with women. women= complain about their rights. No one will ever win. Vaheguroo

And also despite all the difference, I have to salute you since majority of the time it's you against so many men on this forum but you still never dropped the argument. Most of the time admin have to ban the thread and If I have to argue with so many people I would just call it quits lol. So do have mad respect for that reason.

In real world, everybody go through restrictions. My brother has restrictions on him and so do I by our parents. He would marry any girl mom dad will fin for him, not because he can't find someone in his own because he respects my mom. He can go all on justice theme and be like nope mom is a female and inferior. I have two options I can rebel against my parents under the name of justice or I can give them respect and be like whatever you say mom dad. There is a huge difference between the thinking of white people and brown people. I have white friends who tells me how being a good girl is so out of fashion and how I should rebel. Always smiled at it cuz with rebel my ego will get bigger and my ability to keep my parents happy will decrease. I believe in keeping others happy before myself and even if after marriage I have to make compromises to keep my husband I will do so. These small things only matter when we make them bigger. From your perspective and the society you are raised , you are right. But majority of the Indian women don't go for fights with their husbands because they wanna have the title to be so called equality. And about me getting married and staying at home, it's 20th century you won't find housewives, it's old theme now. My situation can change anytime with waheguru ji's Kirpa.Thank you for your suggestion :). I have never seen any guy stopping a women to go out and work. I am not saying you are wrong when you go for women right, but if you look around and see there are other places where women need more help. Not many Sikh girls want to go on a war with men over the things like leadership in paath or being able to walk right next to them instead of being behind them. Fighting with them for not helping with dishes or proving their kids that they and their hubby are equal. Also if my daughter sees me listening to my husband instead of arguing with him, she will learn the lesson of being tolerance and if she thinks that by doing that I am becoming inferior then we must stop bowing to saints and gurus either cuz that makes us inferior too. Indian people touch elderly peoples feet, men mostly do that, my bro has to touch everybody's feet and I don't have too. He never said why this injustice where men have to touch feet and women does not have too. Men hold doors for women, and treat them well but we women choose to ignore all the good qualities and look at bad. I have had bad experiences with dad and bro but at the same time I have gotten love and respect from them too, I can't put all under the rug just because one thing of men bothered us. If I go with you under the name of justice, I will have anger towards men, I will have hate towards men, I will want a big ego so I won't have to feel inferior, I will always have war with men. Or I can learn to let go of small things and be like okay if that makes you happy. When it comes to big matters which does not really involve ego then story is different. i know we have huge difference in our thinking, to you I will sound like a really old female who is almost a grandma lol but nothin new. I do have respect for you since you do stand by what you believe. Just don't get caught so badly in it, the way people get so caught up in the religion that they spend their whole life defending it instead of really following it. Fighting for injustice is a heroic thing but when this fight becomes an obsession then the problem starts. I have seen your comments under the basic of sikhi too long time ago , and they were all about women right so I kinda thought I knew you when I first saw your name here . I am sorry if I sad anything hurtful or super rude but my thinking is also the thinking of many Sikh women.

First of all, I wanna say sorry to you for all the people who have been mean. I did spend some time reading posts about women right on this forum and some people did say some mean stuff. However, i don't fully agree with the approach you are taking. I read many of your posts, you are after women rights so bad that everything goes towards it. To me if I wanna be a good person I will have to let go of my Ego, I read your post about marriage and whole thing was about saying how you had a control over the Palla and you could just control the pace of your husband and how they said women can be part of panj Payaras. I just wanna know why is there a big need that everything should be equal literally? Guru amardas ji, the king of the world was sitting at manji and Bhai dattu came and kicked guru ji, he fell, got up and asked , is your feet okay? I am old and my bones are hard I hope I have not hurt you. That was the humility of my Guru amardas ji. That was the saakhi which shaked me so bad that I got deep into spirituality. This taught me if the king of the king can bow down front of a person who was so mean to hurt an old person then who am I to keep my head above so high. If there are bigger problems like where women are being treated like an animal then I will stand by you with women rights, but if it has to do with small things like women giving their husband somewhat superiority, or no women in panj peyare. Why are we fighting if guru ji chose not to take any women, why can't we accept that and be like okay. I read some gurdwaras don't let women do small seva at gurdwaras, this is something I am with you. But this obsession about being everything equal might make us go away from the real meaning of following sikhi. There are countless stories which will show how the great saints and gurus showed humility and served even the lowest of low which were called by people. But look around today an amritdhari person will put other amritdhari down becaus they don't belong to their takht. I am stupid, I know nothing but one thing I know is women right is going too far and so does the those men who think a women deserve no respect. They need to just remember why call her bad when she gave birth to kings. I know you are not Indian and I know society influence a lot, I have spent almost 12 years in west and craze I see on women about being equal is not healthy. And so does the men who suffe from God complex. However, one gender has to show the maturity and learn to accept some rules which society created. The type of world women want is where equality is everywhere and literally but then after that is achieved women will go to the extreme saying okay now men should start giving birth too, why we suffer? Every month I go through that horrible pain, I am like wish I was a guy but when I am a normal person with emotions and feelings and see guys being practical I'm like naw I don't wanna be man. Not saying all men are emotionless but some of them are weird lol no offense guys:). The point is this there are bigger things to fight over rather than men doing the house chores, women giving an apoourtunity to be in panj, women not able to stand that their husbands are considered superior. Somebody talked about touching other people's feet and I would touch everybody's feet because it will bring humility and humbleness. That's why we do shoe seva in gurdwara sahib so we can touch people's shoes and can become humble. There is a saakhi about 5th guru ji doing the shoes seva of the people who came to visit him if I am not wrong. I will find it and post it. This world will become a much better place if people start learning that life is not about having equal rights, their rules and regulations, their religion, their attire. Life is about becoming what Guru Amardas ji was and other guru ji. I will highly suggest you to read sau saakhi, it has the stories of gurus and their humility, it's in English too. I know I said a lot and I am sorry for coming as very rude, did not mean too. I apologize.

I see a guy who is different than others, seems religious and think Jesus is the only savior, reminded me of shrek, and is the focus of the whole picture.