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A 'Macho' Punjabi Folk Classic * From a different thread http://www.sikhawareness.com/sikhawareness...p?p=79195#79195 But so good I think it deserves a separate thread of its own Mohd Sadiq - sings the Kissa of Sucha and Kukar - 'Sucha Singh Soorma' A punjabi tale of Love, Honour, Betrayal and Revenge Enjoy ! Click link to see video ; http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...59&hl=en-GB Freed

Amrik Bhraava ! no one seems to want to add to your 'Bakwaas' thread - people on SA must just be 'too cool for school' types - can't be seen to be making a fool of themselves - I have no such qualms - so here is some stuff hopefully this will restart this topic - a woefully lame - but CLASSIC joke ( in the same vein as Guv's moo joke) It still makes me laugh out loud (credit goes to Jussi - she thought it up during a very boring lecture at college !) Here goes " What did the Punjabi say to the Hooker ? " "Hor Kiddan ? " ( ਹੋਰ ਕਿੱਦਾਂ ? ) Yes very lame - and of questionable credentials - but hey - everyone should nurture their inner child ******* If that don't restart the thread - here is Super CHEESY video from the 1980s - Pump up the Bhangra - By Pardesi -- Man that 'Travolta' Singh has got some choice Moves !!!! Click link to see ; http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...05&hl=en-GB :shock: :shock: INSANE ! I've been told I shouldn't take the Mick out of punjabi singers - The 'Mrs' thinks its disrespect to our Ma Boli - So to show I love my Ma Boli - today of all days - Mother's Day in the UK - Here is an undisputed Classic Mohd Sadiq - sings the Kissa of Sucha and Kukar - 'Sucha Singh Soorma' A punjabi tale of Love, Honour, Betrayal and Revenge Great Stuff ! 'Dub Ditta Ghora' - more hardcore than any 'Gangster rap' Click Link http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...59&hl=en-GB If you liked that - check out the 'Folk Heritage of Punjab' thread for more classics http://www.sikhawareness.com/sikhawareness...p?p=78565#78565 Thats enough from me - going out to enjoy the weather before it snows as predicted for next week !! Post more 'Bakwaas' we need to get Amreek Sian's thread to 1000 !! Roger Wilco - Over and Out Freed

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh !! I received a request to post any images I had of Puratan hand written 'beerhs' of Sri Dasm Granth Sahib and other Bani of Guru Gobind Singh Ji - so as promised here is my collection - some images are from books but most have been collected from the internet - I do not have information about some images, some images are from sites whose names I no longer remember, please accept my apologies. I have also included other 'Hath Likht' writings associated with Guru Gobind Singh, and some examples of Hukumnamas and 'nisans' I hope this post is not too long - and you enjoy the 'Darshan' of these beautiful hand written 'Beers' A Puratan Beerh of Sri Dasm Granth - kept at the Historic Bhai Daya Singh Gurdwara, Aurangabad, Maharashtra. It is said to have been written by Bhai Daya Singh and has the 'Zafarnama' written in its original Persian script. It is approximately 300 years old Bhai Daya Singh Beerh - Aurangabad - From Piara Singh Padam's 'Dasm Granth Darshan' here are some photographs , unfortunately not very clear. The first page of a beerh of Dasm Granth that was kept in the Sikh Reference Library Amritsar - dated 1765 AD The last page Vaar Durga Ki 'Chiritro Pakhyaan' - from the Anandpuri Beer 'Sudhaai' - or additions and corrections by the hand of Guru Gobind Singh Ji The first page of the Dasm Granth in the British Library These next images are from Dr Daljeet's 'The Sikh Heritage' - they are folios from a beerh of the Dasm Granth in the collection of the National Museum , New Delhi dating from AD 1860-70 A folio from the 'Zafarnama' - dated AD 1872 - in the Patiala Archives -in its original Persian script it is believed to be illuminated and written by Rajaram Tota, a courtier of Maharaja Ranjit Singh These Photographs show the puratan beerh in the collection of the 'Holy Bones' Gurudwara Leicester UK - kept in their museum These next images are from a Sikh student event held in Ontario Canada - a dispaly of Puratan Beerhs and Pothian An eighteenth century beerh of Siri Dasm Granth Sahib siri Dasam Granth Pothi A Gutka of Dasam Bani Sri Sarb Loh Granth Gur Sakhian, written by Bhai Mani Singh Ji Gurbilas Patshahi Dasvi - Bhai Sukha Singh - 18th Century Asv Medth Granth (Vedic Philosphies) - 18th Century The Prem Sumarg Granth - from Patwant Singh's - 'Gurdwaras' The Hukumnama sent by Guru Tegh Bahadar Sahib - a 'Hukum Khas Furman' - to the sangat of Patna at the time of the Prakash , birth of Guru Gobind Singh - expressing their Joy and hope the sangat will contine to assist and help Guru Sahib's family at this special time. This Hukumnama is Kept at Takht Patna Sahib. The childhood 'Chola' of Guru Gobind Singh - kept at Takht Patna Sahib The 'Nisan' of Guru Gobind Singh - in a puratan Saroop of Guru Granth Sahib - Takht Patna Sahib A hand written copy of the 'Hanuman Natak' - it is said the manuscript copy of Hriday Ram's Hanuman Natak was gifted to Guru Gobind Singh by Bahadar Shah Entry for 'hanuman natak' in Mahan Kosh Mahan Kosh Encyclopedia ਸੰ. हनमन्नाटक ਹਨੁਮੱਨਾਟਕ. ਸੰਸਕ੍ਰਿਤ ਦਾ ਇੱਕ ਕਾਵ੍ਯ, ਜੋ ਰਾਮਚੰਦ੍ਰ ਜੀ ਦਾ ਇਤਿਹਾਸ ਅਖਾੜੇ ਵਿੱਚ ਖੇਡਕੇ ਦਿਖਾਉਣ ਯੋਗ ਹੈ. ਇਹ ਵਿਦ੍ਵਾਨ ਹਨੁਮਾਨ ਦੀ ਰਚਨਾ ਹੈ. ਕਈ ਕਵੀਆਂ ਨੇ ਲਿਖਿਆ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਵਾਲਮੀਕਿ ਦੇ ਕਹਿਣ ਤੇ ਹਨੁਮਾਨ ਨੇ ਆਪਣਾ ਨਾਟਕ ਸਮੁੰਦਰ ਵਿੱਚ ਸੁੱਟ ਦਿੱਤਾ ਸੀ ਤਾਂਕਿ ਵਾਲਮੀਕ ਰਾਮਾਇਣ ਦੀ ਮਹਿਮਾ ਨਾ ਘਟੇ. ਰਾਜੇ ਭੋਜ ਦੇ ਸਮੇਂ ਮੋਤੀ ਕੱਢਣ ਵਾਲੇ ਡਬੋਲੀਏ ਨੂੰ ਇੱਕ ਸਿਲਾ ਹੱਥ ਲੱਗੀ, ਜਿਸ ਦੇ ਪੇਸ਼ ਹੋਣ ਪੁਰ ਰਾਜੇ ਨੇ ਓਥੋਂ ਪੱਥਰਾਂ ਪੁਰ ਉੱਕਰਿਆ ਹੋਇਆ ਨਾਟਕ ਕਢਵਾਇਆ ਜੋ ਪ੍ਰਸੰਗ ਨਹੀਂ ਮਿਲੇ ਉਹ ਦਾਮੋਦਰ ਮਿਸ੍ਰ ਨੇ ਬਣਾਕੇ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਪੂਰਣ ਕੀਤਾ. ਇਸ ਦਾ ਹਿੰਦੀ ਅਨੁਵਾਦ ਭੱਲਾ ਕੁਲ ਦੇ ਰਤਨ ਕਵਿ ਹ੍ਰਿਦਯਰਾਮ ਨੇ ਬਾਦਸ਼ਾਹ ਜਹਾਂਗੀਰ ਦੇ ਸਮੇਂ ਕੀਤਾ ਹੈ. ਯਥਾ- ਸੰਮਤ ਬਿਕ੍ਰਮ ਨ੍ਰਿਪਤਿ ਸਹਸ ਖਟ ਸ਼ਤ ਅਸੀਹ¹ ਵਰ, ਚੈਤ੍ਰ ਚਾਂਦਨੀ ਦੂਜ ਛਤ੍ਰ ਜਹਁਗੀਰ ਸੁਭਟ ਪਰ, ਸ਼ੁਭ ਲੱਛਨ ਦੱਛਨ ਸੁਦੇਸ਼ ਕਵਿ ਰਾਮ ਵਿਚੱਛਨ, ਕ੍ਰਿਸ੍ਨ2ਦਾਸ ਤਨੁ ਕੁਲ ਪ੍ਰਕਾਸ ਯਸ਼ ਦੀਪਕ ਰੱਛਨ, ਰਘੁਪਤਿ ਚਰਿਤ੍ਰ ਤਿਨ ਯਥਾਮਤਿ ਪ੍ਰਗਟ ਕਰ੍ਯੋ ਸ਼ੁਭ ਲਗਨ ਗਣ, ਦੇ ਭਕ੍ਤਿ ਦਾਨ ਨਿਰਭਯ ਕਰੋ, ਜਯ ਰਘੁਪਤਿ ਰਘੁਵੰਸ਼ ਮਣਿ. ਇਸ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਵਿੱਚ ਕਈ ਕਬਿੱਤ ਕਾਸ਼ੀ ਰਾਮ ਕਵੀ ਦੇ ਭੀ ਹਨ.² ¹ਸਾਲ ਵਿਕ੍ਰਮੀ ੧੬੮੦. ²ਬਹੁਤ ਕਵੀ ਆਖਦੇ ਹਨ ਕਿ ਬਹਾਦੁਰਸ਼ਾਹ ਨੇ ਹ੍ਰਿਦਯਰਾਮ ਦੀ ਲਿਖੀ ਅਸਲ ਕਾਪੀ ਸ਼੍ਰੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਸਿੰਘ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਦੀ ਭੇਟਾ ਕੀਤੀ ਸੀ ਅਤੇ ਗੁਰੂ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਨੇ ਪੁਰਸ਼ੁਰਾਮ ਦੇ ਸੰਬਾਦ ਦੇ ਕੁਝ ਛੰਦ ਕਵਿ ਕਾਂਸ਼ੀਰਾਮ ਤੋਂ ਲਿਖਵਾਕੇ ਦਰਜ ਕਰਵਾਏ. Once again sorry for the HUGE post - but you must agree the pictures are amazing - hope you enjoyed the 'Darshan' GurFateh ! Ranjit Singh 'Freed'

That's so close to the truth its scary ! That bit about PE is sadly true - I think the only time I was ever good at 'games' was one end of term 'sports day' at Primary school - I won the 'Obstacle Race' - but that was because I had an unfair advantage - The obstacle race consisted of various elements - egg and spoon - sack race - running over things - running around things and then finally a sprint while balancing a rubber ring on your head - me being a Singh I just put the ring around my 'Guttee' and ran like the clappers. Of course I won ! This bit resonates with the 'Mrs' She reckons I only married her for her organisational skills that and her ability to conjure up a full Indian banquent at the drop of a hat ! Honest I aint that much of a sad case - well Ok maybe a little ! Oi Dynamic you changed your avatar - I didn't have a chance to take the mick -- It was a 'Matrimonial' picture posted on the sly wasn't it - It was wasn't it - you cheapskate! not paying any 'Auntie' introduction fees. Was that hand pixellated or was it just a 'blur' - you showing off your 'manual dexterity' to the 'Laydees' !!!!

That's so close to the truth its scary ! That bit about PE is sadly true - I think the only time I was ever good at 'games' was one end of term 'sports day' at Primary school - I won the 'Obstacle Race' - but that was because I had an unfair advantage - The obstacle race consisted of various elements - egg and spoon - sack race - running over things - running around things and then finally a sprint while balancing a rubber ring on your head - me being a Singh I just put the ring around my 'Guttee' and ran like the clappers. Of course I won ! This bit resonates with the 'Mrs' She reckons I only married her for her organisational skills that and her ability to conjure up a full Indian banquent at the drop of a hat ! Honest I aint that much of a sad case - well Ok maybe a little ! Oi Dynamic you changed your avatar - I didn't have a chance to take the mick -- It was a 'Matrimonial' picture posted on the sly wasn't it - It was wasn't it - you cheapskate! not paying any 'Auntie' introduction fees. Was that hand pixellated or was it just a 'blur' - you showing off your 'manual dexterity' to the 'Laydees' !!!!

Had a bad day ? was the boss on your back all day? working on that powerpoint presentation that has to be given tommorow morning ? Trying to look busy and keen - because the big boss is in today ? maybe you're a student with missed deadlines looking for an extentsion - or frantically writing your dissertation /Thesis or maybe you're preparing for finals? Aww poor diddums ! Get a grip people ! Stop feeling sorry for yourselves - sitting on your bottom all day, in your comfortable air conditioned office - tapping on your computer. You don't know you're Born ! - Think of all the sacrifices your parents and forebears made so you could enjoy your pampered 'Suit Boot' lifestyle sipping coffee and wondering if you should have that extra pastry or wait and have a major blowout at your 'expenses paid' Lunch - They worked double shifts in Dirty sweaty Foundries and Lumber Mills so you could complain ? OK OK I'm only joking - I'll get off my High Horse - Seriously though how many of us recognise the hardships the 'Pioneers' went through ? Here's a collection of fascinating photograhs documenting the 'Pioneer' struggle - a circle that continues today - with each new arrival - be they Punjabi , Polish , African or Afghan. The first arrivals - vancouver 1905/6 1907 British Columbia The Saw Mills - 'There every time' - the immigrant work ethic Gurdit Singh on the Komagata Maru 1914 Vancouver Labourers early 1900s Multi-Skilled - Ex Decorated Soldiers, Dhadees and Saw Mill Workers A Funeral in the woods Opening Ceremony of the Victoria Gurdwara Victoria Gurdwara 1924 Stockton, California. Gurdwara Fraser Mills - British Columbia - 'Phulkari' and Skirt combination - only in Canada! One from Scotland UK - Glasgow 1957 Ranjit Singh 'Freed'

Great Pictures Kam1825 ji ! I just read your message about how to post images - I'm a bit slow sorry ! I'm not very 'technical' so I use 'imageshack' to host images - it's free and easy to use - you get a link / code straight away and you can re-size really big images You just upload an image - imageshack hosts it for you and gives you a 'code' / URL which you can post on forums and share with others. for example you upload an image from your camera or computer - usually just takes a few seconds - you then get a code - like this one below - in the 'your images' section - you just copy the code and post it on any forum or use the 'friends' option for emails etc. The 'Code' I've added the **** otherwise it won't show - when you post the code it will show as an image like below ; ( An image of Baba Sarabjot Singh Bedi (on left wearing the small black turban) and his wife Nira - with their priceless collection of 'Hath Likht' saroops of Guru Sahib - inherited from his ancestors - The Bedis, the family of Guru Nanak Sahib - kept at their ancestral home in Una - from The Sikhs - Khushwant Singh 2001) Hope that's an easy to follow explanation - here's the link to the imageshack site ; http://reg.imageshack.us/content.php?page=faq You get the option to post thumbnails or big images - I always use the embeddable code for forums - I use the 'classic view' rather than the 'modern view' - because you see the image and the code together, so its easier to copy and paste the codes. (Forum owners probably hate that because it uses a lot of 'Bandwidth' - but I find people don't like or don't bother to click on thumbnails) Hope that helps - I'm hopeless with technical stuff , and I find it really easy to use , and keep track of pics - so it must be easy ! Cheers Ranjit

Here is a picture - N30 Singh Ji I think you posted it - quite a while ago - along with pictures of a Saroop of Sri Dasm Granth from Nander and a saroop of Sri Guru Granth Sahib from Aurangabad (I always copy and keep good pictures !) However I can't remember where this 'beer' Sahib with the Mira Bai writings is from. Perhaps you can remember N30 ? Here it is -- Raag Maru Mira Bai

Gurfateh ! The Royal Houses of Punjab with their rich history and Lavish lifestyles have have always fascinated me.The Five Sikh Houses of Patiala, Jind, Nabha, Kapurthala and Faridkot along with the Muslim state of Malerkotla all carry the Blessings of the Guru Sahiban. The Phulkian states of Patiala, Jind, and Nabha all descend from Phul of the Brar Bans, born AD 1627 .After the Battle of Gurusar (AD1631), Phul came to Guru Hargobind Sahib with his brother Sandaali and his 'chacha' , Uncle, Kala. In the diwan of Guru Sahib, Phul began to beat his belly to indicate he was hungry. Guru Hargobind Sahib gave Phul the blessing that Guru Nanak would bless Phul with the capacity to feed thousands and he would one day have a kingdom. Guru Har Rai Sahib also blessed Phul on his travels in Malva (AD 1646) The sons of Phul - Tilokh Singh and Ram Singh were blessed with Khande di Amrit from Guru Gobind Singh at Damdama Sahib - They were blessed with the 'Apaar kirpa' of Guru Gobind Singh - evidence of this can be seen in the Patiala Hukumnama sent by Guru Sahib in 1696 Text of the Hukumnama ; ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ । ਸ੍ਰੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਜੀਉ ਕੀ ਆਗਿਆ ਹੈ ਭਾਈ ਤੇਲੋਕਾ ਭਾਈ ਰਾਮਾ ਸਰਬਤ ਸੰਗਤ ਗੁਰੂ ਰਖੈਗਾ ਤੁਧ ਜਮੀਅਤ ਲੈਕੇ ਅਸਾਡੇ ਹਜੂਰ ਆਵਣਾ ਮੇਰੀ ਤੇਰੇ ਉਪਰਿ ਬਹੁਤ ਖੁਸੀ ਹੈ ਤੇਰਾ ਘਰੁ ਮੇਰਾ ਹੈ ਤੁਥੁ ਹੁਕਮੁ ਦੇਖਦਿਆ ਹੀ ਛੇਤੀ ਅਸਾਡੇ ਹਜੂਰ ਆਵਣਾ ਤੇਰਾ ਘਰੁ ਮੇਰਾ ਅਸੈ¹ ਤੁਧੁ ਸਿਤਾਬੀ ਹੁਕਮ ਦੇਖਦਿਆ ਹੀ ਆਵਣਾ ਤੁਸਾਂ ਅਸਵਾਰ ਲੈਕੇ ਆਵਣਾ ਜਰੂਰ ਆਵਣਾ ਤੇਰੇ ਉਤੈ ਅਸਾਡੀ ਭਾਰੀ ਮਿਹਰਵਾਨਗੀ ਅਸੈ ਤੈ ਆਵਣਾ ਇਕ ਜੋੜਾ ਭੇਜਾ ਹੈ ਰਖਾਵਣਾ ਭਾਦੋਂ ੨. ਸੰਮਤ ੫੩।†(੧੭੫੩) Translation (from the 2003 Dix Noonan Webb sale catalogue for the Sale of the 'Nishan-i-Phul') There is one God. The Guru is great. It is the order of the Guru. Bhai Rama and Bhai Tilokha, the Guru will protect all. You are required to come with your contingent. I am much pleased with you. Your house is my refuge. On seeing this letter you should come in my presence. Your house is my refuge. You should come to me immediately. On seeing this letter you should arrive with horsemen. Do come. I have sent one robe of honour. Keep it with you. Written order, hukamnama, from Guru Gobind Singh to the brothers Rama and Tilokha, dated 2 August 1696. In the Hukumnama the brothers are asked to come to Anandpur with Soldiers, arms and horses ( as all Sikhs were ordered to ) to help Guru Sahib in his Battles with the Hill Rajas - Guru Sahib states that "Your house is my refuge" - 'Tera Ghar Mera Asey' - This has become the Patiala motto - seen on the 'order of Phul' and other medals and decorations. It is said that it is because of this blessing from Guru Sahib that the 11 Missals never attacked the Phulkian States despite some 'dubious' behaviour on their part. Ram Singh went on to form the House of Patiala and Tilokh Singh the Houses of Nabha and Jind. These Houses are from the Brar Bans , Patiala being Sidhu-Brars , the house of Faridkot is also Brar - In the Zafar Nama Guru Gobind Singh states to Aurangzeb that " ਹਮਹ ਕ਼ੌਮ ਬੈਰਾੜ ਹੁਕਮੇ ਮਰਾਸ੍ਤ " - 'The Brars are with me and are under my command' - evidence of the special blessing of Guru Gobind Singh. The House of Kapurthala descends from Sardar Jassa Singh Ahluwalia born AD 1718 - the Sardar of the Ahluwalia Missal - leader of the Dal Khalsa. He was brought up by and received the "Ashirwaad" - Blessing, of Mata Sundari Ji (Wife of Guru Gobind Singh ji) in Delhi. On his return to Punjab he received a 'Gurj' - Mace , sword, a shield, a bow and a quiver full of arrows, a dress and a silver staff from Mata Ji - predicting that he would rise to eminence. Jassa Singh Alhuwalia succeeded Nawab Kapoor Singh - who had adopted him as a son and taught him Shastar vidia - Kapoor Singh gave him the sword of Guru Gobind Singh Ji - now kept in the Kapurthala treasury. Jassa Singh was well respected by all - it is he who blessed the Maharaja of Patiala - Amar Singh with Khande di Amrit. Jassa Singh had no heir and was succeded by Bhag Singh his cousin. The House of Faridkot was founded by Bhallan - who had helped Guru Hargobind Sahib at the battle of Mehraj. His descendent Kapura declined to help Guru Gobind Singh by not allowing the use of his fort at KotKapura - because he feared angering the Mughals - however he did help in a covert fashion at the battle of Muktsar in 1705. The House of Malerkotla - is a Pathan Muslim state - The Nawab of Malerkotla,Sher Mohammed Khan, was present when the Cchote Sahibzadas were sentenced to death by his relative Wazir Khan in Sirhind - he lodged his protest saying it was against the tenets of Islam and walked out of the Durbar in protest. When Guru Gobind Singh Ji came to hear of this, he blessed the nawab with a hukumnama and a sword . It is because of this blessing that Malerkotla saw no sectarian violence during Partition in 1947 and still remains a predominately muslim area in East Punjab. Here is a collection of Photographs - some of my favourite images - that document the Lavish Lifestyle of the Maharajas of Punjab. They are beautiful images captured by some of the worlds finest photographers. I'll start with the Blessings of the Guru Sahiban Phul at the Durbar of Guru Hargobind Sahib - beats his belly and receives a bountiful Blessing - which took the form of the Phulkian Kingdoms The Patiala Hukumnama The Nisan of Guru Gobind Singh Ji Details The 'Patiala Motto' the words of Guru Sahib - "Your house is my refuge" - 'Tera Ghar Mera Asey' The 'Nishan-i-Phul' or Order of Phul - with the 'Patiala motto' Here are the Royal Houses of Punjab PATIALA Ala Singh - Founder of Patiala Maharaja Mohindar Singh of Patiala (died 1876) Maharaja Rajindar Singh Patiala The visit of the Viceroy Lord Ripon in 1884 - Patiala ( Maharaja Rajindar Singh) The Maharaja Bhupindar Singh as a boy - note the dwarf - a lucky mascot - on the left as a boy Bhupindar Singh hunting with the Prince of Wales ( later to abdicate in the Wallace Simpson crisis) On horseback Bhupindar Singh on the roof of the Savoy Hotel, London Bhupinder Singh wearing the 'Nishan-i-Phul' and medals The Patiala Cricket team - the Patiala XI at Chail - the highest crickect ground in the world The Patiala Palace - Motibagh Bhupinder Singh in all his finery The Patiala Necklace made by Cartier - their biggest ever commission - a total of 962.25 carats - including the De Beers 'yellow' 234.65 carat diamond Bhupinder Singh and the ladies of his family - photo by Van Dyke one is wearing a Cartier Ruby necklace An informal sitting - Bhupinder Singh without his trademark Turban , a pair of glasses perched on his forehead -sitting with his daughters - photo by Van Dyke The Patiala Children - including Yadvinder Singh - Father of Amrinder Singh - the Current Maharaja Note the Torch / Flashlight - a new toy ! The Maharaja Bhupinder Singh Patiala with the Maharaja of Kapurthala Jagatjit Singh Maharaja Yadvinder Singh wearing the Cartier necklace The wedding of Captain Amrinder Singh and Preneet Kaur Captain Amrinder Singh - the current Maharaja Amrinder Singh with Giani Zail Singh The Tikka Sahib - the heir of Patiala - Raninder Singh NABHA Maharaja Hira Singh with his heir Ripudaman Singh KAPURTHALA The Maharaja Jagatjit Singh of Kapurthala - as a pampered chubby child - he shows no signs of the cultured 'Francophile' he became in later life - note the stripey socks and ill fitting 'mojey' shoes. Jagatjit Singh playing tennis Jagatjit Singh in Europe 1893 - with his wife - said to have been smuggled out dressed as a man - as women were not allowed out of the palace or travel ! The Kapurthala Palace modelled on Versailles Jagatjit Singh on a Tricycle - it is said that he was too large to mount or dis mount without help - when he drove around Kapurthala - the sweet shop vendors would tease him by saying come inside and have some sweets - knowing he couldn't get off the tricycle - even if he wanted to ! The Kapurthala Princes the princes dressed in European clothes Kapurthala was known for it's taste and extravagance - and also it's glamour - here is a collection highlighting the Lavish and glamourous 1920s and 1930s Amrit Kaur - daughter of Jagatjit Singh and Rani of Mandi Amrit Kaur and children Rani Sita Devi of Kapurthala - by Andre Durst 1934 Sita Devi by Cecil Beaton 1937 Sita Devi 1935 by Cecil Beaton 1940 1940s Maharani Brinda Devi of Kapurthala - oil by Laszlo The Current Maharaja - Brig. Sukhjit Singh Sukhjit Singh with Tikka , heir Shatrujit Singh JIND The maharaja Ranbir Singh and his Romanian wife Olive The marriage of Yuvraj Rajbir Singh of Jind 1939 - with 'Chhattar' above his head to ward off the 'evil eye' FARIDKOT The Maharaja Balbir Singh of Faridkot Maharaja Brijinder Singh of Faridkot MALERKOTLA The current Nawab of Malerkotla standing infront of a portrait of Nawab Ahmad Ali Khan of Malerkotla ****Pictures and References from : The Sikhs Images of a Heritage - T S Randhawa - Prakash Books - 2000 The Maharaja - Sharada Dwivedi - Roli Books - 1999 The Unforgettable Maharajas - E Jaiwant Paul & Pramod Kapoor - 2003 Made for Maharajas - Amin Jaffer - New Holland - 2006 Indian Princely Medals - Tony McClenaghan - Lancer - 1996 Gurdwaras - Patwant Singh - Himalayan - 1992 The Illustrated History of the Sikhs (1947-1978) - Gur Rattan Pal Singh - 1979 Sikh Shrines in West Pakistan - Khan Mohammed Waliullah Khan - Govt of Pakistan - 1962 The Maharajas - John lord - Random House - 1971 Khalsa Panth - Khushwant Singh Raghu Rai - Tricolour - 1984 Gurshabad Rattanakar Mahan Kosh - Kahn Singh Nabha Sale Catalogue - Dix Noonan Webb - 'Nishan-i- Phul' - July 2003 Hope you enjoyed the photographs ! Bhul Chuk Maaf Ranjit Singh 'Freed'

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki Fateh ! Caught in the Crossfire - Punjab - Rule of the Gun Here is a documentary on the 'Troubles' in Punjab - it was shown on BBC 2 UK in 1991 - it is an examination of the Killings, torture and 'Troubles' in Punjab,and includes interviews with KPS Gill, Simranjit Singh Mann , Patwant Singh, Khushwant Singh and the 'Kharkhu Singhs and Singhnia' of the Bhindranwale Tiger Force of Khalistan. It does not make easy viewing and may upset some viewers ( The BBC gave a warning before the showing ) I'll let you the viewer decide if the programme is 'biased' in any way- it does use some very 'Loaded' language such as 'Terrorist' 'Militant' etc - I'll make no comment other than - please watch it Here is the Link http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...60&hl=en-GB Gurfateh Ranjit Singh 'Freed'

Dear Chatanga Gurfateh ! I donated the videos to the Khalsa Force website - they have made 2 of them available to download Here is the link http://www.khalsaforce.net/videos.html hope that helps 'Freed'

A picture of Baba Shaam Singh Addan Shahi - with sarinda

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki Fateh ! "Maia Vich(i) Udasi" Bhai Gurdas Ji - Vaar 10 Pauri 5 Dharna - Sant Isher Singh Ji Rara Sahib Vale - Luton, Bedfordshire UK - 27 June 1975 Click link to see ; http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...61&hl=en-GB Vaar 10 Pauri 5 - Raja Janak (* from Varan Bhai Gurdas - Text,Transliteration and Translation. - Dr Jodh Singh - V&V - 1998. Vol 1 page 252) Ranjit Singh 'Freed'

Dear Fateh Singh Ji, Sorry to hear about your cough ! :wink: Perhaps the darshan of these photographs - taken at the time of the 'Southall Miracle' 1976 - will make you feel better ! Enjoy ! (Best enjoyed with some 'Masaley vaali Chaa' to help ease your cough ) (** From 'Southall - A Home from Home , a photographic journey through little India - Dennis Morris - 1999 - Olympus Cameras).

Dear cybersingh Bhai Sahib, Here is a chapter from the SGPC Dharam Prachaar Committee's "Sri Harimandir Sahib da Sunehree Itihas" The Chapter is about the Rababees and Raagees of Harimandir Sahib and includes those whose pictures you posted and others like Bhai Mansha Singh and Baba Shaam Singh Addan Shahi (Dera Aataa Mandi) I have posted the whole chapter - it is one of those hard to read and handle Punjabi books that are tightly sewn together - that explains the slightly askew pictures! Hope it is of some use ! (** taken from 'Sri Harimandir Sahib da Sunehree Itihas' - Singh Sahib Giani Kirpal Singh - Dharam Prachaar Committee, SGPC, Amritsar - 1991 - pages 307-332 ) Gurfateh ! Ranjit Singh 'Freed'

**ALERT*** Our Sabhiachaar and Virsa are under attack ! Look at this blatent Beadhbi of the Image of our Maharaja How dare they use such an image to promote their unclean food ! call the Beadbi Police at once - round up the Boys and the Cudgels ! sorry just my feeble attempt at jumping on the bandwagon - everyone else has had a pop at the 'Beadbi Brigade' so I thought I would as well . The flyer/menu comes from an 'Upmarket' Curryhouse catering to genteel West London - The food is quite Lush actually check out the menu http://www.thebombaybicycleclub.co.uk/restaurantmenu.shtml Call the Panthic Police he's promoting 'Murgh Aishwarya' and 'Bulsari Salmon' - off with his head !! OK - I know - I'll never make it as a satirist

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki Fateh !! This post is dedicated to all those Sikhs who have and contine to maintain their Kesh and Dastaar with pride regardless of any obstacle. One of the many challenges that face Sikhs is the hostility many of us face on a daily basis towards our turbans. Sikh parents face the challenge of nuturing and protecting their children from the sometimes very violent reaction our turbans and kesh receive at schools. Sikh children face very real and difficult problems at school - which impact on their self esteem and quality of life. Sikh Parents need to be aware of the challenges children with Kesh face at school and take proactive steps to 'arm' their children with the skills to combat these challenges, and to build their self esteem so they can wear their Kesh and turbans with pride. I grew up in the England of the 1970s - and went to a Church of England School - I was the only Singh and the teachers didn't really know how to deal with me - so treated me no different from the other children - which I liked. We had daily religious assembly, I was in the choir and we used to sing hymns in the local church. I still know all the words to many hymns when they are shown on 'Songs of Praise' - our school song was John Bunyan's - 'He who valiant be'. My parents were very aware of the need to equip me with the required 'Sikhi skills' - and always made an effort to buy me books and sent me to learn Punjabi on Saturdays in the neighbouring town. Going to a Church School and being the only Singh probably made me more aware of being a Sikh than if I didn't. At School we had a Religious Education teacher - Mrs Miller - who would teach us Bible stories and parables - I would always give these stories a 'Sikh' twist in my own 7 year old head - feeding of the 5000 was 'Sacha sauda' - The 'Good Samaritan' was Sajjan Thug and perhaps the strangest - Joan of Arc and the life of Saint Alban - particular favourites of Mrs Miller - were Banda Bahadur and the Great Shaheeds of the 18th century !! In other words my parents made a special effort - which made a huge difference to me. The issue of Kesh looms large in all the lives of Sikh children. At school I had all the usual questions - 'are you a girl' - 'why do you wear that?' - 'Bobble head' - 'Mr Topsy Turvy' - 'How long is your hair' - etc etc People calling me all sorts of names etc. - but mostly just curiousity - having to explain only strengthened my Sikhi. It was when I went to High School that I had problems. I started to wear a Dastar at age 11 and was again the only Singh at a large All Boys School. I am a real believer in proactive action and very soon every one knew if you touched my turban you got a punch in the face. However the older boys were a harder problem. I lived throught violent times - a Neo Nazi renaissance - Skinheads, Football hooliganism and Psychobillies were all a big trend and there was open racial hostility. I could deal with the verbal abuse - even when large crowds of very intimidating older boys would shout at me or sing Football Chants like - 'Where did you get that hat ?' or 'If you want to wear a turban clap your hands' - but if anyone came near my turban I used my fists. The Skinheads and I locked horns - They would attempt to punch my turban off my head - I had daily fights and would come home and secretly wash the blood stains off my uniform - so as not to worry my parents. My parents instilled Sikhi Spirit in me - we were told off if ever we put turban material or Chunees on the floor , we were taught of the sacrifices made so we could wear our Turbans. My Mother especially gave me the strength to be different and wear my Dastar with pride. I always said to myself - I will not let the dastar, given to me by Guru Gobind Singh, fall on the ground. I would face the punches - and give as many back, even though I was only 11 and they were a lot older. This lasted a good few weeks - one time having a full fist fight after school we were caught and stopped by a tearcher. He happened to be my Maths Teacher - he was one of those good teachers - a laugh but you didn't mess with him. You have to remember this was a different time and many teachers were openly hostile themselves or were not very sympathetic. This particular teacher was different - he used to call me 'Samson' - He said to me why didn't you say you were getting this sort of harrassment. After that it was all sorted out. You have to remember this was a different time - a time of corporal punishment and authoritarian teachers - the Cane and 'slipper' were used regularly in our school - every teacher had a size 12 slipper in their desk. The skinheads were 'sorted out' by my maths teacher - they were all caned infront of me - in those days if you got on the wrong side of a teacher he could make your life hell -- I never had a problem again. Now this is my story - it was not very typical - some children faced and face enormous problems - you hear of horror stories of kids in remote places like the Mid West of USA. Parents need to equip kids with the skills to pre empt the problems and how to deal with them. It is harder said than done - I didn't tell anyone, parents or teachers - but it is vital that children tell a trusted person about what is happening to them. Try not to let things get too far - I sorted out my peers by making them aware my turban was not to be touched - don't let even the little things slide - make people aware. One thing parents can do is make kids aware their Kesh may be a target. Make sure they can look after it - many parents 'baby' their kids , you see many kids even teenagers who cannot tie their turbans or their Kesh. Kids should know how to tie up their hair , so they do not 'Freak out' if it does come undone. I think we should all share our experiences and any stragegies we have to cope with hostile behaviour at school - How did you cope ? etc. -- all this will help our youngsters. I don't wear my experiences on my sleeve - I think they made me who I am - because I was 'allowed' to sort them out myself - they made me strong and resilient. In fact my sister told me a funny story quite recently , that I didn't know - She said at her school (a nearby Girls school) I was seen as among the hardest/ toughest kids at school - She nearly wet herself with laughter when one of her friends told her - anyone who knows me will know that, OK I may look like a hardnut ( because of Guru Ji's bakhshi Sardari) - but I am a real softie - one who can be 'tickled' into submission and who cannot recite 'Shabad Hazarey' without crying! -- But because my parents instilled Sikhi into me - I could invoke the 'Strength' to deal with any hardship. Parents need to listen to their children - be vigilant and look for early signs of 'trouble' - they also need to address their childrens' fears and explain any questions they have fully - in other words take the time to nurture them not just physically but emotionally and spiritually. In this post I hope you will give your experiences and pass on any stragegies or ways you coped with experiences at school - to help our younger Brothers and Sisters. Isn't it amazing how in this world all you need to do is tie a piece of material around your head and all hell breaks loose ? you hear many horror stories - that lead children to cut their kesh - some say we should move with the times and not place such a burden on our children. Many People believe it is a modern phenomen that young Sikhs are cutting their kesh and say it was 'easier' before and we should 'Go with the times'. In Sooraj Prakash an incident is narrated where Guru Gobind Singh is asked by Naunidh what is the need for Kesh and Shaster in this day and age - we should 'Change with the times' - Guru Ji gives a beautiful reply, using Gurbani - that the same Moon Stars and mountains are still the same and - they haven't changed - it is only we who have changed and look for the easy way. Kesh and Shaster are ancient Royal symbols - Sardari given to the Khalsa. Here is that particular incident - with an English synopsis from The Encl. of Sikhism - Ed. Harbans Singh (*from Sri Gur Pratap Sooraj Granth - Kavi Chooramann Bhai Santokh Singh Ji - edited by Bhai Sahib Dr Veer Singh -Bhasha Vibhag Punjab - 1992 edition - Vol 14 (Rut 6 aain 1 ansu 47) page 6203 NAUNIDH NAUNIDH, Bhandari Khatri of Agra, waited upon Guru Gobind Singh during his visit to the city in AD 1707. According to Bhai Santokh Singh, Sri Gur Pratap Suraj Granth, he enquired about the reason for prescribing unshorn hair for the Sikhs. The Guru explained that keeping long hair was no innovation because this had been an old tradition. "But the times have changed," argued Naunidh. The Guru said,"What times have changed? Aren't they the same sun, the same moon, the same water, air, fire and earth as have ever been? The fault lies in us. We have become too lazy and readily resort to such excuses." Naunidh went away chastened. References 1. Santokh Singh, Bhai, Sri Gur Pratap Suraj Granth. Amritsar, 1927-35 2. Gian Singh, Giani, Twarikh Guru Khalsa [Reprint], Patiala, 1970 The Shabad cited by Guru Gobind Singh ( Ang 902) ਰਾਮਕਲੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੧ ਅਸਟਪਦੀਆ raamkalee mehlaa 1 asatpadee-aa Raamkalee, First Mehl, Ashtapadees: ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥ ik-oNkaar satgur parsaad. One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru: ਸੋਈ ਚੰਦੁ ਚੜਹਿ ਸੇ ਤਾਰੇ ਸੋਈ ਦਿਨੀਅਰੁ ਤਪਤ ਰਹੈ ॥ so-ee chand charheh say taaray so-ee dinee-ar tapat rahai. The same moon rises, and the same stars; the same sun shines in the sky. ਸਾ ਧਰਤੀ ਸੋ ਪਉਣੁ ਝੁਲਾਰੇ ਜੁਗ ਜੀਅ ਖੇਲੇ ਥਾਵ ਕੈਸੇ ॥੧॥ saa Dhartee so pa-un jhulaaray jug jee-a khaylay thaav kaisay. ||1|| The earth is the same, and the same wind blows. The age in which we dwell affects living beings, but not these places. ||1|| Here are some pictures and more inspirational material -- Please do post you own experiences and any coping strategies The 1970s Skinheads/racism - In East London in areas like Little Ilford young school children were attacked by adults - when youths started defending themselves - they were arrested - The Newham 7 and the Newham 8 School Children on strike in support of the Newham 8 an Anti Racist Rally Ringa a Roses - kids playing in the park - note the tight braids/ plaits - also known as 'Kareley' or door knockers ! A great 1970s example of the so called 'African Pugh' A young namdharee boy The first Sikh in the London police - Special Constable Jabbal 1970 Sikhs in the UK fought many cases for the right to wear turbans at work and at school Here is Kulbinder Singh Vahmra of Wolverhampton - who along side Gurinder Singh Mandla - fought cases that led to Sikhs being classed as a Nation/ Race under the Race Relations Act - and outlawed discrimination against turbans ( *Daily Telegraph May 4 1979 ) Sikh Women also had to fight to wear the Dastaar (* Daily Telegraph 7 September 1979) The First generation of Sikh women to wear turbans to English schools (* From Des Pardes Weekly ) Demonstration against the Lord Denning ruling that Sikh were not a Nation - Later reversed --- I remember going to this demonstration - with my friends from Gurdwara - we shouted 'Jaikaras' so loud all day we all had sore throats the next day ! One way Parents can boost the self esteem of children with Kesh is to make a 'fuss' when they first begin to tie turbans - this shows the importance and can help in the sometimes difficult transition from Jura/patka to full dastar. The Dastar bandi ceremony is a great way to make a child feel special ( Some argue the ceremony should be called 'Dastar Sajna' - as Dastar Bandi is a ceremony only performed when the head of the family dies and a dastar is tied on the new head /Heir) 1970s Dastar ceremony 1980s Dastar Ceremony 1990s The Dastar Bandi of Sant Ji Extract from 'The Style of the Lion' - Jasprit and Teresa Singh 1998 Sikh Children at School assembly in England Beautiful Kesh - Interesting and Beautiful Dastaars Some examples of American Sikh Turbans In this 1970s picture the womens turbans are tied further back - showing their hair line In these pictures you can see examples of the tall 'Stove pipe' turban Dumalla Anand Karaj a flowery style Nihangs hair Massage Dumalla tying at Amritsar A Nihangni A very colourful and pointy style ! Afghan Style - a picture from a pharmacy in Kunduz, Afghanistan - showing an Afghan Sardar Ji - wearing the distinctive Dastar worn by the Afghan Sangat. The Maharaja of Patiala - Bhupinder Singh , known for his beautiful turban - The Patiala Shahi Style - here shown in Madrid , Spain 1928 Divine Light Hope you enjoyed this HUGE post - please post your 'coping stragegies' and experiences - I am sure they will be of help to all our youngsters. Sat Siri Akaal GurBar Akaal ! Waheguru ji ka Khalsa waheguru ji ki Fateh ! Ranjit Singh 'Freed'

Gurfateh! Here's a good link about the Bhatra Sangat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhatra does anyone have any more info about the 'Changa' Sri Lanka / Guru Nanak Link ?

Some great pictures of the Ardh Kumbh Mela 2007 - taken by Claude Renault http://www.pbase.com/clodreno/ardh_kumbh_mela_2007 He's also has an Amritsar collection http://www.pbase.com/clodreno/punjab Great Stuff - well worth a look! Freed

Gurfateh ! Vaisakhi, Anandpur. 1999 Celebrations at Anandpur for the 300th Vaisakhi - a home movie with a soundtrack provided by my taxi driver ! Apologies for the shaky camera work - but it gives you an idea of the pushing 'sea of humanity' - the film includes a glimpse of the Nihang Cchauni (camp) at Shaheedi Bagh. The film is short and sweet - after a while I gave up trying to capture the event on film and just 'enjoyed it ' ! Look out for the Nihang Singh and his dog - aw bless ! Click link to view : http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...71&hl=en-GB Enjoy - I won't get any Oscars for my film making I think ! Ranjit Singh 'Freed'

Talking of Magnificent Beards - Here is a video of a talk by Shivcharan Singh http://www.sikhawareness.com/sikhawareness...p?p=78738#78738

Gurfateh ! Here is a video I recently rediscovered of Shivcharan Singh of Karam Kriya London. It is from a AKJ UK Hola Maholla event for young children and Students. Give it a watch it is interesting - even if it's only to see Bhai Sahib's magnificent Red Beard !! Seriously though - It gives food for thought and Bhai Sahib has a great definition of who is a Sikh - which I'll try to paraphrase - " Every moment I remember and honour Waheguru - I am a Sikh - Every moment I don't I am not a Sikh " Shivcharan Singh - Sri Guru Singh Sabha , Slough. UK - 19 March 1995 Click to view ; http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...41&hl=en-GB Ranjit Singh 'Freed'

I think we've all been there ! My mates at college would call it the 'Staring Problem' or SP for short - 'look Ranj you're getting the old SP there' they were convinced I attract nutters - - be they the 'outsider' type or the 'manic street preacher' type - They would always make a bee- line for me - One of my mates would get quite irate ( I think he didnt like having to share the limelight) at people just coming up and saying - 'you look interesting I have to speak to you' or talking like they've known me for years - but as someone once said - it may have even been here on SA - If youre a Singh/Singhni and no one is staring at you or cant see you coming from a mile away - Youre NOt doing your job properly! tSingh I got the book today ! I must concur with your Rasta Mate - I've got a severe case of 'Beard Envy' - having finally seen what you look like - (your picture in the book today) I would stroke your beard as well - My beard is a bit patchy so I am always jealous of those that flow especially that 'flow in the wind' style some Singhs have. I bet you'll be deadlocking the door tonight !! - I aint a stalker - honest Guvnor !

***Disclaimer - This post was the result of one of those stupid late night discussions - It is meant to be tongue-in-cheek and lighthearted.It is not intended to insult or offend - If it does please accept my sincere apologies. Oh and before anyone jumps to any conclusions NO the discussion was not fuelled by 'THC' or any other stimulant - unless of course you count milky tea with lots of toast covered in strawberry jam and topped with slabs of cheese - as a stimulant !! **** If you've been to Ladbroke Grove, other parts of West London or parts of South London (Or of course Jamaica or Trinidad) you may of seen Bobo Shanti Rastafarians - I don't know a Single Sikh who hasn't had to do a double Take and look again to see if they've just seen a Black Singh ! Bobo Shanti Rastafarians - unlike other branches of Rastafari who tend to wear woolen or leather 'Tams' to cover their Dreadlocks - wear tightly wound headwraps or turbans to cover their dreadlocks. They wear special robes and turbans - usually white on the Sabbath - but many wear brightly coloured high turbans on other days - They believe their hair contains the 'Power of Self' - it is only shown to partners and family - Many resemble Nihangs and their High Dumallas. This got me thinking and led to a big discussion - and here are some of the similarities between Nihangs and Bobo Shanti Rastafarians we found. OK - we'll get the OBVIOUS one out of the way first - Bobo Shanti believe Marijuana is a sacrament - it is only taken in private, never in public and it's use is preceded by special prayers. sound familiar ? Anyone who has spent time with Rastas, Nihangs or your common-or-garden imbiber of Marijuana - will know there are side effects - these are not just 'The Munchies' or 'Intense Paranoia' - but - how can I put it delicately for a 'polite' audience - um - a certain 'prostate on a rock' situation - this means there are a whole number of funny stories that are told . Nihangs have loads of these funny stories - perhaps they are bragging - but those in the 'know' - will have heard the legendary tales of 'amour' !!! say no more ! Rastas are no different! Rastafarians also use marijuana as a medicine - it is often applied onto wounds - mixed with a liquid or saliva. Now we've got that out of the way - here are some interesting points Language - Nihangs have their own way of talking ,never refering to themselves as one but as a 'fauj' and other special Bolas - Rastas also have special way of using language - there is no 'You' in their language - they use 'I' and 'I and I' - to show God is part of them - there is no 'you' - They say 'First there was 'I' then the Devil created 'You' an example of their language is ' I and I must not understand but overstand, Seen ' note the changing of under to over - changing a negative into a positive . Rastafarians believe they are living in Babylon - deprived of Zion (Ethiopia) by Slavers who stole them from their 'rightful place' , so they live in exile until the time they can gain their rightful place. Similar to 'Malech' SGPC stealing the 'rightful place' of the Dal Panth - the Akal Bunga ??? rastafarians observe strict Old Testament 'Jewish Mosaic Law' - they tend to be vegetarians - though some may eat fish but not shellfish. They are very particular and do not eat processed foods. - Not unlike 'Bibeck' ? Rastafarians have a strong resistance to 'Structure' and 'Tyranny' and are fighters against all forms of 'Injustice' - They are vocal protesters against all forms of Violence. Familiar yes ? True rastafarians - speak of 'Fashion dreads' or 'Funky Dreads' - those who take on the appearance of Rastas but have not taken the vows or do not give the vows due respect ---- Not unlike' #N*a%n£g$s' ( The N word as used by Nihangs- not the US variety ! in case it doesnt show up ) - don't you think ? What do you think ??? Yes I have got WAY too much time on my hands - yes I know and respect the fine and ancient traditions of Nihangs and know Rastas are an early 20th century phenomenon - but hey it cheered me up and filled a rather boring evening with some good discussion. ONCE AGAIN - This IS lighthearted - please don't take offence - I fully respect ALL traditions of ALL world communities - I just think it shows how we are all God's Children and more similar than different. Any way I'll get back to what I do best - and that's not inter- community comparison ! - But pictures - here they come A group of Bob Shanti Men - a cursory glance and you would think they were Singhs Bob Shanti on the Sabbath - in white robes Bobo Shanti Musicians - Reggae artists like Capelton are 'Bobo Shanti' rastafarians - though purists would say he hasn't taken 'full vows' a Bobo Shanti young man - in his turban - not unlike the small dumalay UK youngsters wear A Bobo Shanti woman - they also cover their hair Oh I forgot - here is a video of what I think is a young 'Jattadhari' Udasi - an udasi with jatta - matted locks - covered with a turban - correct me if I'm wrong. The video is from Shaheedi Bagh , Anandpur - vaisakhi 1999 The 'Udasi' only makes a fleeting appearance this is a still This is the film clip ; http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...43&hl=en-GB MORE connections and similarities !! There you go - should I be expecting a 'Late Night' visit or Cchittar Parade ?? I hope not ! Love and Peace Freed !

Gurfateh ! I've been asked to repost a 1970s picture I posted of Baba Anoop Singh Ji - Buddha Dal , Gravesend. So here it is with another. detail Enjoy 'Freed'