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Being from Hindu background i know that the above quote is not totally wrong. In fact there are Hindus (although very few and rare in number) who worship the Formless Almighty and have names like Ram and Hari for HIM. But then again a vast majority feel comfortable worshipping GOD in some "form" or the other, sometimes even more than one form, and so thats where the concept of monotheism becomes really questionable!

pleasure = playyar measure = mayyar measurement = mayyarment eleven = alaivan

waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh The name of the stone at kaaba i think is yakoot (hope i spelt it right, and hope i am not wrong bout its name). According to Islamic beliefs (from what i have been told), there is a similar kaaba in heaven exactly 90 degrees above the one in saudi arabia. The stone has a scent like smell, and they say it has retained the smell ever since...1400 yrs or more.

My suggestion would be turn a deaf year towards all such predictions. They are scare tactics to make u believe that the only way to save u is Islam. i was myself gonna fall prey at the age of 15, but thanks to Gurujee who blessed me with the best gift : SIKHI.

waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh Some clever muslims have proved very interestingly that Muhammad Sahib was the awaited kalki avtar of the Hindus, and so all Hindus shud embrace Islam. They did so by relating the predicted characteristics of the kalki avtar with those of Muhammad Sahib. At the same time, some believe it was Guru Gobind Singh (notice the similarity : Kalki and Kalgi, and Guru Gobind Singh is also known as Kalgidhar/Kalgiyaanwaale). However, Gurujee is above all avtars and so i don't understand why people have tried to do so. And i m not sure, but i guess the predicted time for the coming of this avtar (as said in the Hindus scriptures) is not anytime soon. juz what i came across...dunno whats authentic and whats not Bhull chukk maaf waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh

Being raised in the middle east all my life, i had the chance to watch way too many Islamic lectures on TV (in Urdu). From what i recall, Peace Be Upon Him is a kind of prayer to Allah to always bless Muhammad Sahib and keep him in chardi kala, also he is believed to be in the 7th heaven, the highest one according to Islam. Plzz correct me if m wrong, and if i am, then my sincere apologies.

Monk bro If WAHEGURU is the sun, the Gurus are sun rays, lets look at it that way. Since we may not have direct access to the sun, its the sun rays who bring us the light, and so in this case Gurus brought us Gurbani. The reason why Sikhi believes in following Gurujee is coz without a Guru, even if some1 does find GOD, he/she will still be stuck with haumai that I FOUND GOD. Therefore Guru takes away that I.

Let me quote from the writing :

i have read at some places that Gurujee actually beheaded the 5 and rejuvenated them back to life...the goat theory is said to be more of a myth...and besides, i have full faith that Gurujee does have the power to bring a dead person back to life. plzz comment

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL THE SANGAT

tried cold shower at amritvela couple of times...cant describe the feeling

one is "fighting for faith and freedom" by cynthia mehmood...thats basically about the militants whom she met in person.

howcome u forgot the name of daulat rai who wrote sahib-e-kamaal guru gobind singh?

and if its done for someone else then its heard even faster

Guru Nanak de ghar di, sunn lawo lokko meri zubaani Likhi gayee khoon de naal, os panth di hai eh kahaani Jithey pita sehen karda apne puttraan di wi kurbani Chaahe jaan chali jaaye, kadi na jaawe dharm roohani Tati tawiyaan te we na dolley mere Guru Arjan patshah Darr gaya Sikhi sidak ton, jahangir mughal badshah Hill gaya si asmaan, kamb gayee har musalmani Likhi gayee khoon de naal, os panth di hai eh kahaani Fer dilli wal nu gaye, Dhan Sri Guru Tegh Bahadur Ditta sees mazloomaan lei, bann gaye Hind di chaddar Hajay tak we sannu hai yaad, gal bhaawein ho gayee puraani Likhi gayee khoon de naal, os panth di hai eh kahaani Nikke nikke si oh, chhote chhote te pyaare pyaare Kachhiyaan kaliyaan wang si, Guru Gobind de raj dulaare Hass hass ke sooli charrhey, chhaa gayee har paassey hairaani Likhi gayee khoon de naal, os panth di hai eh kahaani Vekh lawo apna itihaas, ai Sikho bhull na kadi jana Sachee sirf oh zindagi, jo manney Guru da bhana Aa jaawo Sikhi kol, harkataan na karo bachkani Likhi gayee khoon de naal, os panth di hai eh kahaani

khushwant singh did return padma bhushan after operation bluestar, and even voiced the concern in parliament

Name : Rochak Sharma email : rochak1979@yahoo.com

waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh brother monk jee, The article by Ram Narayan Kumar ( http://www.sikhreview.org/june2000/chronicle.htm ) says 42 other Gurdwaras were attacked. As for the number of deaths, hope that helped plzz forgive and correct me for any mistakes waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh

waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh This is an essay i wrote for my english class. Terrorism : A study of its roots, aspects, and two-faced nature September 11th, 2001! This day shall always be written in red letters in all the history books all over the world. It is the day not only when America was attacked by terrorists, but also when the world changed for everyone forever. All the nations all over the world were awakened and realized the potential threat they were facing as a whole. The US war on terror that has reached Afghanistan and Iraq is in fact just the beginning of an international response to the threat of terrorism. This paper focuses on the roots of terrorism, as in the reasons it raises its ugly head, on the various means by which it draws support, on how it ultimately affects a society and a country, and also about how certain governments and/or government organizations can at times be responsible for similar acts as well. Being a citizen of India, I am going to focus on terrorism as it affects India and the people there. The images of terror that we see on TV or read in the newspapers make one feel that terrorists are individuals different from human beings and are nothing more than bloodthirsty monsters. Astonishingly, researches have discovered that they possess a perfectly sound mental condition as opposed to the well-accepted stereotype of them being insane killers (Long, 1990, p.16). Most of them are people unsatisfied with certain policies of their respective governments, and have taken to this extremely incorrect measure after running out of choices. Be it poor economic conditions, unpleasant social conditions, or political conditions judged as oppressive by them, the common goal of all these individuals is to gain the public and government’s attention towards the grievances which they want addressed. Being perpetrators of terror, violence is their chief weapon. It is usually in the form of bomb blasts, assassinations, hijackings etc. An increase in their activities generally triggers the government’s harsh response, bringing forth crackdowns, raids, arrests etc. Thus the cycle of violence kicks off in which the ones to lose and suffer are, as always, the common inhabitants of the country (Long, 1990, p.24). In any case, a group of restless individuals bent on pressing the government come down on its’ knees can’t achieve much without a strong and reliable backing support. This support could be in terms of arms, finances, logistics, political or just mere moral and/or verbal support. Usually such supporters are other operating terror outfits, ethnic political groups, drug traffickers and sometimes even another country’s government in power (Long, 1990, p.105). The ones supporting such a cause may do so due to sharing similar grievances against the opponent government that they are targeting, or their goals are similar to the ones that the terrorists want to achieve. Individuals or organizations owing allegiance to similar nationalities, religious and/or ethnic backgrounds or even speaking the same language are usually the ones who act as supporters. Sometimes though, there are instances where governments do give in to the demands of terrorists. Best example would be the release of a Kashmiri extremist Maulana Masood Azhar by the Indian government in December 1999 after Indian Airlines flight from Kathmandu, Nepal to New Delhi, India was hijacked by militants (Trehan, 2002). Such consequences cement the morale and resolve of terrorists, and justify to them that their method of struggling for a better future spotlessly true (Morris, Hoe & Potter, 1988, p. 51). Terrorist organizations also give some individuals a chance to “get back†at those who have treated them unfairly (Long, 1990, p.107). However, the success of such an organization depends on the leadership exhibited by the leader on the members, clever planning and the ability to organize activities (Morris, Hoe & Potter, 1988, p. 63). But what matters the most is the amount of fear that the group can strike within the minds and hearts of people and/or the government. Here I would like to discuss a little bit about terrorism in my country: India. It must be noted here that the Kashmir dispute between India and Pakistan has been raging ever since the two nations gained independence from British rule in August 1947. A number of talks between the two countries have repeatedly failed as terror continues to rule the valleys of Kashmir. Although the Indian government blames Pakistan for sponsoring cross-border terrorism, the latter denies it completely, though it does not shy away from offering moral support to the cause of Kashmir’s independence from India. Not all terror groups functioning in Kashmir want to join Pakistan, as there are a few who want Kashmir to be an independent and sovereign nation with allegiance to neither India or Pakistan. For the past fourteen years or so, terrorism in the northern Indian state of Kashmir has taken a heavy toll of life. Kidnappings and killings of foreign nationals, indiscriminate and merciless killings of people belonging to another faith, and sporadic attacks on the security forces is something that has been going on for quite some time. Reports indicate that as of now, there are around six principal terrorist groups operating in Kashmir, although others speculate it to be as high as one hundred and eighty two. Hizbul Mujahideen, Lashkar-e-Toiba, Al-Badr, Harkat-ul-Ansar, Harkat-ul-Jehadi Islam and Jaish-e-Mohammad are the six main groups (Trehan, 2002). The Jaish-e-Mohammad terror outfit was formed by Maulana Masood Azhar who has been mentioned earlier. The above-mentioned groups propagate terror by means of explosive blasts, indiscriminate firing at public places, targeting government VIPs and also security forces (Trehan, 2002). According to Trehan, from January 1990 until June 2000, about 45,586 incidents of terrorist violence have been reported. More than 20,000 people have been killed as a result of this. Trehan further puts the number of militants killed at 11,479, and also reports three thousand to have surrendered. Out of the 35,059 militants/suspects captured in the past decade, 15,726 have been arrested under TADA (Terrorist and Disruptive Activities (Prevention) Act of 1987) according to him. More than 20,000 Kalashnikov rifles and $ 2.7 million worth of ammunition for them have been seized. 37,000 hand grenades, 2,500 kilograms of RDX have also been seized in the last decade. This has devastated the tourism-based economy of Jammu and Kashmir which has suffered a damage at a figure as high as $417 million (Trehan, 2002). Unfortunately though, the government fighting terrorism may not necessarily be of “saintly†nature either. There have been such governments in Iraq, Afghanistan and scores of other countries who have repeatedly mistreated their own people. In most cases, it is usually a particular ethnic section of society that bears the brunt of the ruling government. Mass massacres sponsored by the government, harsh treatment and discrimination in all possible fields are other modes by which these horrific crimes are committed by the ones in power. I am going to talk over here basically about the blunders committed by the Indian government. The Golden Temple in the city of Amritsar, located in the northwestern Indian state of Punjab is the holiest shrine of Sikhs. In the early days of June 1984, the Indian army launched an attack on the Golden Temple, codenamed Operation Bluestar, in which an alarmingly large number of innocent worshippers were killed. The attack was said to be targeting “militants†hiding inside the premises of the Golden Temple, although certain foreign media reports have made it clear that minimal force could have been used to nab them (www.sikhreview.org). Eye witnesses put the number of dead somewhere around 7-8,000, while Mark Tully of the BBC puts the number at 4,000 (www.sikhreview.org). The Prime Minister of India at that point was Mrs Indira Gandhi who had ordered the attack, and who was assassinated by two of her Sikh bodyguards later the same year on October 31st . What followed in the streets of the Indian capital New Delhi for the next few days was mass murder of thousands of innocent Sikhs, including young women and children. As surprising as it may sound to believe, the killer mobs were supplied with iron rods and an abundant supply of petrol and kerosene by members of Mrs Gandhi’s political party, the Congress-I, (www.sikhcybermuseum.org). Further shocking to believe is the fact that a number of eyewitnesses have testified seeing even policemen supply these to the bloodthirsty crowds (www.sikhcybermuseum.org). Educational institutions, houses, movable property, cash, jewellery, factories and business premises belonging to Sikhs were either destroyed, looted or burnt. The places of worship of Sikhs, called Gurudwara, were systematically attacked to prevent them from gathering there and saving their lives (www.sikhcybermuseum.org). Even after all these years, the miscreants have not been brought to justice. On the contrary, they have been honored with ministerial positions and also senior posts in certain political parties. The years that followed saw a rise in militant activities in the state of Punjab. Law and order was enforced, and so was the abuse of human rights by the police in many cases. Mysterious disappearances and illegal cremations became common (www.indiatogether.org). I as a child remember visiting Punjab in the summer of 1989 when terrorism was said to be at its peak. People feared to venture out of their homes after it started getting dark in the evening. Also, bus travel became an ordeal as there always existed the fear of a bomb exploding on a bus full of passengers. The level of trust between people of different ethnic communities had visibly and considerably diminished. Although my stay in Punjab was relatively short, the experience that I had was definitely not. Religious violence is nothing new to India. The country saw nationwide bloodshed in early 1993 after Hindu fanatics tore down a sixteenth century mosque (Muslim place of worship) in northern India in early December 1992, claiming it to be the birthplace of one of their deities. The number of people dead is said to be in the thousands, mostly Muslims. Yet again, the perpetrators continue to occupy important political positions and have walked away unpunished. Once again, in late February and early March of 2002, India witnessed yet another horrific carnage of Muslims. A train carrying fifty-eight political Hindus activists was set on fire and all of them succumbed to the burns. The response that followed was terrible and bloody. Once again, mosques were desecrated and this time it was Muslims homes and businesses that were targeted and destroyed. Amnesty International and Human Rights Commission have reported the most brutal gang rapes of Muslim women, as young as sixteen, that took place (Devraj, 2002). Some of the victims were even set on fire and burned to death to avoid the existence of any evidence. Today there is a high level of distrust between the two communities. People saw their own neighbors rape their daughters and sisters (Devraj, 2002). One school teacher says he saw his neighbors, also his students, rape girls in his village (Larmer, 2002). History repeated itself when it came to light that even this time the local government and the police department aided the crowds in their bloodlust (Larmer, 2002). The neighbors who had celebrated festivals together, the friends that worked together, and even the people who had been part of their daily lives turned their backs on them and joined the ranks of the rapists and killers who were hounding for prey (Devraj, 2002). What then is the solution to terrorism? Is terror sponsored by a government justified? Or is it as bad as that committed by the ones outlawed? In my opinion, the countries of the world should get together to fight this menace of terrorism as a whole unit. What I would want to see as a possible solution to end terror is to punish the one advocating it, be it a group of individuals or the government for that matter. The governments of terror-stricken countries need to try modifying certain policies of theirs, thereby making an attempt to do justice where it may not have been served. In the US for example, cyber terrorism as a means to sabotage the infrastructure has not been ruled out. Associations like National Infrastructure Protection Center (NIPC), National Infrastructure Assurance Council (NIAC) and Joint Task-Force Computer Network Defense (JTF-CND) have been formed especially for this purpose (Manion & Goodrum, 2000). Also, countries on terror lists will have to be monitored. This would also mean that governments proved to be tormenting a certain section of their own society would also have to be disciplined. Leaders who have misused power should be the first ones to be tried as per the criminal laws of the country in question. Also, nations proved to be supporting terror activities in another country, no matter what way they do so, should be dealt with strictly. Given the situation that all these requirements are fulfilled we will we be able to breathe in a world free from terror, anguish and frustration. References Devraj, R. (2002, Apr. 17). Rights-India: Women targetted in Gujarat Pogrom- Investigators. p.1. Retrieved from ProQuest Database. indiatogether.org : Missing Justice. Retrieved from http://www.indiatogether.org/2003/jun/hrt-missing.htm Larmer, B. (2002, Apr.22). A Chilling Message; Religious violence in India is pushing the world’s second largest Muslim population deeper into the ghetto—and endangering the nation’s secular dream: [Atlantic Edition]. p.28 Long, D.E. (1990). The Anatomy of Terrorism. New York : The Free Press, A Division of Macmillan, Inc. Manion, M., & Goodrum, A.(2000). Computers and Society. Mark Manyon. Speculations : An anthology for reading, writing, and research (pp. 225-237). Dubuque, IA : Kendall/Hunt Publishing Company. Morris, E., Hoe, A., & Potter, J. (1988). Terrorism : Threat and Response. New York : St. Martin’s Press. sikhcybermuseum.org : Delhi Riots- 1984. Retrieved from http://www.sikhcybermuseum.org/history/Dehliriots.htm sikhreview.org : The Ghalughara : Operation Bluestar - A retrospect. Retrieved from http://www.sikhreview.org/june2000/chronicle.htm sikhstudies.org : 1984 Massacre : Wounds That Do Not Heal. Retrieved from http://www.sikhstudies.org/Periodicals.asp?TtlCod=493 Trehan, J. (2002, Feb). Terrorism and the Funding of Terrorism in Kashmir. Journal of Financial Crime, 9, 201-211.

DOABA RULEZZZ MY DAD'S SIDE FROM JALANDHAR MOM'S FROM HOSHIARPUR

i taught the bus driver who picks me up (an old gori) how to sat SatSriAkaal. now whenever i board the bus she greets me saying SatSriAkaal !!

HAPPY DIWALI !!!!!!!!!!! :D :D

WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH Following is my article for this year's Diwali nite at my university. Please tell me if anything can be done to make it better. Sardarjee! Bara bajj gaye! Think again! Red is the color in which the history of the Sikhs has been written. Yes you guessed it right. It has been written in blood. The martyrdom of the fifth and the ninth Guru, the martyrdom of the young sons of the tenth Guru who were seven and nine years of age and countless other Sikhs who were killed in the most brutal and inhuman ways makes Sikh history a saga of sacrifice. Yet we have done injustice to them by making them the laughing stock in our country. That is exactly what I am going to talk about. It was the year 1739. India was still under the rule of the Mughals. It was during this year that the Persian invader Nadir Shah invaded Delhi wrecking havoc on the inhabitants. Around 150,000 people were killed mercilessly and a large number of women taken as captives. Nadir Shah had to pass through Punjab on his way back to Persia. The Sikhs in Punjab during this period were facing a lot of persecution at the hands of the tyrant government. A price was put on the head of every Sikh. Each head brought would be rewarded with Rs. 25 and each Sikh caught alive and brought was rewarded Rs. 100. The ones brought alive were cut to pieces. What these brave Sikh warriors did was that they started attacking Nadir Shah’s convoy at 12 noon as well as 12 midnight and managed to free the women whom they escorted back to Delhi. Ahmad Shah Abdali, the Afghan invader raided India nine times between 1748 and 1765 AD. He captured 2200 women who were again rescued by the brave Sikh warriors and escorted back to their homes. This heroic act also occurred at 12 noon or 12 midnight. (Source : The Sardarji Joke by Preetinder Singh). Thus the belief started that Sikhs would lose their mind at 12 o clock. Instead of being grateful, people started poking fun at Sikhs by calling them as the people who lost their senses at 12 o clock. They forget the fact that if it were not for the Sikhs, the womenfolk of these very same people would have been taken away and raped or sold as slaves in foreign lands. It was in 1798 under the rule of Maharaja Ranjit Singh that eight centuries of repeated foreign invasions into northern India ended. This was a result of the Sikhs gaining control of Khyber pass, thereby shutting out any possible invasion from central Asia and/or the middle east. I do not intend to end this article without talking about other contributions by Sikhs, especially in the Indian freedom struggle. Perhaps most of the readers may never have come across these facts. The boycott of English goods was done by the very first time by Baba Ram Singh in 1863. The British tied eighty two Sikhs to canons and blew them apart and Baba Ram Singh was exiled to Burma. Mahatma Gandhi issued the call for a similar satyagraha fifty six years later in 1919. When Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose started the Indian National Army (Azad Hind Fauj), sixty seven percent of those forty two thousand recruits were Sikhs, ie twenty eight thousand. Out of the one hundred and twenty one hanged, ninety three were Sikhs, ie seventy seven percent. Eighty one percent of those imprisoned for life and sixty two percent of those who were killed at the Jallianwala Bagh massacre were also Sikhs. (Source : History of Indian National Congress). Five Param Vir Chakras, forty Maha Vir Chakras and two hundred and nine Vir Chakras have been won by Sikhs serving in the Indian army. After the partition of 1947, most of the fertile land of western Punjab was lost. Thanks to the hard work on part of the Sikh farmers, today eastern Punjab is more productive and contributes forty percent of rice and fifty one percent of wheat to India’s central pool of foodgrains. Not only this, but the Sikhs who settled in Terai in UP have also made the area as fertile as Punjab. Having read about their extraordinary accomplishments, here is the kicker : Sikhs form only two percent of India's population! Every possible injury has been inflicted on Sikhs. Not once but repeatedly. Yet they are the ones who have learnt to fight back and succeed, and also possess their unique sense of humor. It is just unfortunate that we have Hindi movies today portraying them as clowns on one hand and as macho fighters on the other, whatever brings in the money. This article has been written with the hope that things change for the better in future and we refrain from poking fun at the ones who have time and again stood up to fight for not only us, but also the self respect and honor of our motherland. WaheGuru Ji Ka Khalsa WaheGuru Ji Ki Fateh Rochak Sharma Electrical Engineering Technology email : rochak1979@yahoo.com references : http://jatt.com/sikhism/empty.pitcher.asp : An Empty Pitcher Makes Noise http://jatt.com/sikhism/sardar.joke.asp : The Sardarji Joke by Preetender Singh

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DHANN SRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB JEE my murakh mind cant talk like scholars like others...so thats all i m gonna say