vijaydeep Singh

Gurfateh Dear sag Roti Ji, Das is happy that at least you behold Sikhs and Hindu as differant. das can say that there were many elements, By rogue elements of Congress,Agents of the enimical govemrnemts like Pakis or within the fedral structure of the countroy and some so called Babbers. Some Ranks and files of Damdami Taksal were difinatly intruded upon by anit Sikh people after Sant Ji ,which brought the bad name to us but they have left after Sant Harnam Singh Ji performed Chahiyya and instaled Dasham Granth recently. Ranks and files of figthing forces of Damdami Taksal was full of ex Indian Army people who were not murdres. Das saw some old documents which had clash of Taksali Kharkoos(Commadoo or terrorists) With Babbers(1990-1992) when Taksalis killed Butchers in Majha regeon for thier killing cows while Babbers said it was wrong to kill butchers. Taksalis were very much what people like Kala Afghana Sahib will say as Brahmanical.But in Truth das can say that they were not bigots so people of Sant Ji's side did very little false but thier deeds were actually what people like Bajrang Dal aspire to happen. another blame on them was to killing of Pakistanis visitng Sirhind just on moving Samjhauta Express. Das just wants you to understand that Taksal is not Band of bigot Sikhs. There Teaching of Hindusim and Islam si done by Pandits and Maulanas respectivly unlike in other faiths where it is done to show own faith suprirors then other by own missionaires.

Gurfateh therre are mnay punajbi hindus who make fun to das that Sant Ji have reappeared as Bin laden. das shuts dowen thier mouth by simple statement. Bin Laden hates all non Muslims while Sant Ji had the support of many non Sikhs.

Gurfateh As per sgpc code both feamle and male who have to marry must be Amritdhari. But in Nihings and other orders(Samprdayas) this may not be the rule . Yuo can get her baptised. You can ske your local Granthi about it.

Gurfateh As most Hindu Brothers and sisters are the followers of hindusim which is more of secular charector often they have thier devotion on ritualism. In fact due to this often some get frustrated and do not bother about devotion at all. Many are totaly devotion less and take thier gods and demigods as jokes. As they are insenstive to thier own religeon then expecting them to be snetive for the relgeon of others is our mistake. Lastly Das can say that those Hindus who have devotion truly do not affend anyone. Devotionless and knowldegeless majority offend not only thier own faith but others alike. das often hear vulger jokes reated to Lord Shiva and Lord Rama crakced by hindus that he feels like to kill them.Forget about Sikhs as often due to serious nature of das his colllues avoid that in frnt of das but now they have started to avoid jokes on Aceient Sanantan Dharmi Heros likie Rama or Shiva in front of das. such elements have to be reformed.das does not know how?

Gurfateh Das can translate line 1 and 3 but will be back after clearcut trranlation of all the verses. It is like that which may be incoorect if so das request you all to correct it. Im son of warirer(a person who strugles and faces the world) and not of pigmy(Baman) so that I should do rigours yoga. another thing cuold be I am son of Khashtriya and not of Brahmin so I will not do Rigourus Yoga. and all the Janjars(complexities) you(Akal) told me to renounce ,which I embedded in my mind or rembered it firmly in my mind. Now give me after getting happy(by me) that I request by folded Hands. When the age(life) becomes the remedy(of the ailment ie foes),In grave war I should die struggleing. Das is tendering an appology if wrong interpetation is done and request the Online Sangat for rectification if any.

Gurfateh Kindly take note of Dr Bhai Veer Singh and Sant Fateh Chand Ji of Shah Jivane. Here often people with title Sant could be one from Nirmala Sampradayas or other orders plus the native of Taksal at the latter stage.

Gurfateh It is irony that Punjab due to Britishised or protestantised Gurmat is full of apostasy in Areas with with Little or No Hindu Population while in Hindu Majority Areas like that of Two Takhats outside Punajb we have Panth increasing even with Neo converts ire in Bihar or in Mahrashtra. Reason is that there Sikhs know both Hindusim and gurmat ajnd how we are better than Hinduism. this is a post from a Veer that just got back from visiting Sri Hazoor Sahib Thus Das starts the corre ction humbley with his head bowed to the poster has poster has genunine concern with the welfare of the Panth so das repect thAT thing but clarifiaction on the side of orthodox Sanatan Sikhs is requisite. Das wants to add that there is no rule that Jatt can be head of the Nirmalas and that can be verified from Amritworld.com. Sakme is still done in many Gurudwaras beside there. Say if hindu do Arti with lamps etc we must stp it then we can say that Arti itslef was with Hindus and we may not do it. Weather Arti is dome with or without lampis immaterrial but unlike Arti of Hindus which is done for demi gods if it is done for Akal then what is wrong. Hindus put cloaths on idols,do chaur so should we stop doing it on Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Main reason of Arti being done in Sikhs is due the fact that Aurangzeeb Banned Arti in Temples and Hindus obeyed but Sikhs disobeyed and just to show defiance to biogatory they did it to Akal. Das wants to remind that there are verse Dhup Deep Dhrit Saje Arti,Deepak Deay Ujaiar,Joot Laye Jadhessh Jagaya Bujhe Bujahmn Hara,Panche Sabad Anahad Bhaje Baje Sange Sarang Pani,Kabeer Das Terri Arti Keeni Nirankar Nirbani. Logic of Arti was to let germs etc be removed from offfersing made to idols. But in our case it is the same way that as Guru told to not to eat Halal as it was forced so as Arti was not allowed so we did it. But it is symbolic and be or not to be it has no effect on sprituality. Well logic of Arti being taken near devotees in Hindu Temple is that ddevotees or Bhakts are beheld higher than deity. Here as Guru Granth and Sangat ie Guru Panth are same so it may gbe a symbol of same but has no spritual or magiacal efftect. Well bells are there in Churches,Budhist Stupas and perhaps in some Sufi aeras But nothing to do with hindus. Bells are mark of let far off people know that there is some activity going on in Gurudwara or Gurudwara is nearby. Somewhat like Azan in Mosques. It was in past doing what luod speaker or microphone did in past. If das is not mistaken it could be saffron. Sikhs in Deccan use Tilak on thier forehead and that maeks them differant from Sikligara or Lambadi Sikhs(they are Blacksmith and nomands respectivly). Say if Hindu wears turban or Muslim has Beared(Before First Master's Avtar) then we must not have it. It is to be verifed from Guru Granth Sahib Ji and Vars of Bhai Gurudas Ji that Tilak and Coconut or Nariyal was givne to the new Guru. In Deccan Tenth Master gave the same to Guru Granth Sahib Ji and leftover was applied to the Panth or Sangat as they too are body of Panth is Granth Sahib are the souls. This is the symbol of the same.This needs to be encouaged rahtewr to let world know that we as a Khalsa enjoy the Guruhood. Well kindly watch Astha international which gives live telecaste of the Rahiras Sahib from the Hazur Sahib.Available in USA and UK. If someone sits in Parikrama of Darbar sahib ,Aritsar,there too those are removed to pave way to others.And there to it is good to bow head to the mamangement.By the way term Pujari must not be used here. That is done to encourage others to follow the way VIP(genrally who fooers good offering) has done the service and if some one has no monety then when that person has mony he,she should do the similar service.Das wish he could do big SEVA some day at Hajur Sahib. In SGPC managed places too a person who offeres in hundereds of thousend of ruppes or $ is respected so that other too get inspiration and this is not Bad and it is responibilty of VIP to not to come for that so called blessing which is nothing but roll of honuor bestowed unto servent who served. Well rember one thing that in hindi ther is a proverb,Cheken cooked at home is like lintils. When intoxicaNTS ARE used in Ayurvedas or Sidha it is intoxicant while when allopathic or homeopahtic medicnes for pain killing,psychiatric treatment or as a sedatives are used in in Hosptials run by Guru Dwaras then they are OK. Often SHahidi Deg there is without Cannabis by people with Complusive Obsesive Disoreder(where a person trys to act perefct and found fault in others) will see Bhang there also.Das recomends them to first taste both Bhand and Deg without Bhang and then decide. Panth does not recoganise heavan nor Rituals so if Sikh uses Bhang for some purpose das does not feel that Sikh can go to hell or any Vrat etc of Sikh is going to be destroyed. SGPC code of conduct debars the addiction to intoxicant and usage without addiction for health purpose seems to be OK. There is verse by Bhats in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, Saying that Guru Nanak Dev Ji are reincarnation of the one who took form of Bali,Rama and Krishana in previous ages.So was that verse by Bhatt is an attempt of So Called Brahmin to dilute Sikhism. Off couorse not.And as First Master and Tenth Master are the same so Rama and Tenth Master are one and picture A tool for an illitrate to understand that Rama is atpresent Ten th master is tool of preching. As usulal reactionar hindusi in Sangh desist from quoting those verses from Guru Granth Sahib Ji as they will make Hindus as Sikhs. Waht it actualy means is that in Past Heros who were neither Hindu nor Indian but had universal depctions of Charectors in thier best for Humans in diverse fileds may or may not exist But Khalsa the form of Guru has those qualities. Instead of worshipping Rama or Krishna ,Hindus can attain Ramahood or Krishnahood by becoming Sikhs as by attaining Khalsahood,which is form of Guru. If das is no mistaken in Guru Dwara Bala Sahib(Delhi) Just over the Angeetha we have Prakash of Guru Maharaj. Then Das would like to know that in most of the Takhats and Darbar Sahib,A place where Prakash is made and offering are made are bloacked from public access as some wrong person can do pilfreage or otherwise do Muthi Chappi(pressing the Palkis feet which is Anti Gurmat) and can distrub the Sevadar.). So denying Access in OK espeacilly when Prakash of Both the Holy book is outside then why should we see tghe place where pyre was burnt as Guru is always visible. BUT inside weapons with hisotric imporatcne are kept and can be made open to pubic in restricted ways even for views or anyone can steal it or say start to worship it in hindu way but we want that to be done to books only. If someone pays reverance to the artifects belonging to Guru or great Sikhs and want people to see them with decorum and so they are kept in safe place there must not be a problems. like wise Guru Granth Sahib Ji are kept in that room also.Saying Guru is coming means that Guru is visible. Das has visited that Gurudwara and incidently we have another missionaries of Charity by mother Teresa centre also adjacent to it. In another Gurudwara on Bank of Ganges in Patna Sahib also there is temple of Rama where Pujari keeps the picture of Guru and call Sikhs. Das niether Visited Dargah nor that Temple and and in case no official of either Takhat Sahib will endrose it. Incidently at Maal Tekri it is sadi that when Khalsa will be of the number 96 Crore that treasure will be given to them. that peer is the symbol that Gurmat is one with Islam and true Followers were trusted by Guru and were made Trustee of Panth.Message there is clear that Number of Panth need to be increase. And if Muslims of Dargah(Dargah is place of worship while mazar is grave) endreose this thing then we need to support.This is some thing to do with Sufis and not with Brahmins opr vipran Ki reet. Guru Ji did visited the Dadudwara and interacted with care takers while did discouraged the grave worship so till we do not bow to idol or dead just for the sake of historic importance visitng Temple or Dargah can be OK,By the way use of visiting the Gurudwaras of Historical importance is same and not to do with Punyas as done in hindus. Das can recomend you to read Dasham Granth and Sarblog Granth after you have understood Adi Guru Darbar but das does appriciate your concerns and can say that Sikhs are nothing going to loose if they leave those rituals but if we understand those ritual in tjhe light of Gurumat then they are not going to harm us but can be benficial also.

Gurfateh during NDA rule in India RSS like it courted Hindu Saints to guide them wanted to allai with Sikh Sant Samaj also. They contact Baba Sarbjot Singh Bedi and Sant Thakur Singh ji, Sants of Sikhs made them agree to behold Sikhs as a differant faith and release of Sikh youths who were in jails due to thier act of sedations. Even Bhai Ranjit Singh was supportive of idea. RSS made Advani to do this BUT PS Badal intervened and stoped Advani and ADvani for the sake of so called Akal MPs support did not heed to the demand of RSS. Question is if RSS represetn the interset of Hindus and negotiates with us on thier behalf we must prefer it to be the better if not best.

Gurfateh Das knows many AKJ people who are better Sikhs then worm like das.

Bole So Nihal Sat Shri Akal

Gurfateh Respected Brother , May Akal bring you to health soon. Das at last can say regarding that particular site that poster does not has knwoelgde of history of the either side. But in old books Das has obsereved That Sikhs writers like Bhangu did had sense of respect to Rajputs,Jaats and Marathas and they too have respect towrards Sikhs and one such person like that poster can not make it broken. And in past as in present we do not have too be brave to win the War but more pragamtic and not rigid.

Gurfateh Well as per one soveect econmist if Indian start to eat beef from old cow 65% of the starvation will end. It is pity that Hindus at one point call cow a mother while at another time treat it badly in Delahi and in most of the other parts. Soon we will have hydrozen fuel or fuel based upon bio hydrocarbon. That means that dung of old cow can replace petrolium. So once petrol cross 50 INR we will use the alternative fules which have production cost lesser thean petrol which is otherwise now. So then living cow or goat or hen will be imporatant then dead one to fulfill our energy needs.

Gurfateh Vishnu,Rudra or Brahma all are manifeatation of Akal Purakh as per Gurmat but Hindus deem Kalki as Vishnu Avtar to be coming.

Gurfateh Respected Brother Amritpal Singh Ji, Das is not against Rajputs as such as in Guru Granth Sahib Ji we have verse from Bhagat Pipa JI also. There are many people who were Rajputs and and at present they are Sikh. Das has the problem wityh the content of forum ie some member and not the owner who has teired to say that Gurmat is nothing but jattism and as in your Amritworld you have correclty did study of medivial history of weather Hindus fought with courage or not. Das has read all the contents of similar books in magzine called Sarita when he was young. So one member there wanted to prove that Sikhs are cowards and Hindus are prepetual brave. Das opines that Courage is not the factor to win War and we need not have to generalises that say Jatts or Rajputs are brave by blood. Such things were clearly writtan there. Then it was repeated that Guru worshipped Hindu deitiesd by misquoting Guru Granth sahib Ji and Dasham Granth. That all is even tolrated and we are awatre that Gurmat preaches worship of Akal and so is Vedas and Vedanta . BUT thing which hurt das was the abuses calling mothers and sisters of Sikhs posted there and calling them jatts. Das does object the vulger language and from that frame of mind Das can say that postrer is not at a Sikh. And Hindus like that are responsible of plight of hindus as Das mentioned above. Instead of improving the wrong of Past they undermine the improved idealogy ie Gurmat and boost the failed idealogy as a success and sticking to that will lead to the failure in future. Das respect Rajputs and sorry for using generalised term for Rajputs. Das can adjudged that that poster himself may not be Rajput either. There can be no match or fight with Sikhs and Rajputs either as Muslims ,a faith can not figth negros,a race as many negroas are Muslims. Das request you to see thier forum which was heart burining for a radical like Das which lead to wrong outburst and Das also tenders and apology to all Rajputs online if Das has hurt thier sentiments but wants to tell them that being Rajputs by race is nothing great but being Sikh by faith is something great.

Gurfateh This is just the self boosting. Thing to rember that at present Sikhs are hail and hearty in Pakstan also. But be it Bihar or be it Jammu. Muslims keep on slitting the throat of Rajputs and raping thier women. It is beter that they prove themselves as they have proved by submiiiting thier feamle folk to Mughals or killing thier own brothers to help turks. Das has seen tha for filth is only in forum part of it even highly unprailamentory words. Das request any of our members to go to thier forum and give them a befitting reply as they are misinterreting Both Guru Granth Sahib Ji and Shri Dasham Granth Sahib Ji. Das thinks that thier moderator is absent.

Gurfateh Rara Sahjib people are since start and at present also agreat allies of Damdami Taksal and that could be verifed from chowek Mehata and they are part of Sant Samaj.So are from Ratewara perhaps. Coming to Nirmalas. In 1984 there were many of thuer Ashrams also being burnt in 1984 espeicaly at Haridwar. Nirmalas also have good realtion whith Taksal.

Gurfateh Respected M .K C Sudershan Ji had own agenda vis a vis Sikhs but are aware that Chritians can inflict more harm to Hindus then Sikhs as Sikhs are no longer Hindus to Sikhism in Punjab while Christians are still doing the same. Anyway we can join Hands with Hindus in Punjab on the condition that they will not interfere with our internal matters and can jointly counter missionaries. But we need to rember that when in past Sanatan Sikhs called Swami Dayanand Ji Saraswati in Punjab to help them counter Chrisitan onsluoght at that time Dayanand Ji himself converted many of the 'low caste' Sikhs into his type of Brahmanical Arya Samaj. So Radical Singh Sabh of Lahore under Prof Gurmukh Singh came into being and thencefrth term Hinduism and Sikhism were used to fight among themselves. Best way 1. Sikhs must give up brahmanical rituals like pictures in Gurudwaras being worshipped,eating only in iron bowls,Rain Sbahis done like Jagrata,personal worship of Gurus,Code or Rahit being made stricter even than brahmin so normal por person can not afford to be Amritdhari etc. 2. Fund on Gurudwara being used to get policitcal scores and pmp and show over nagar kirtans or centenanries or goldedn dooms shuld be reverted to preaching,education or health care. 3. Work Culture has to improved and often many people from Punjab convert to christianity so that missioanries allow them to emmigrate in west and Last one is to most dangouorus trend. 4. Caste division need to be reomved from Panth. 5. We can cooporate with rss for them being leaders and representative of Hindus without any prejudice but they must remove thier wrong interpetationof Gurmat and agree to Gurmat as told in sgpc rahit Maryada or Tat Khalsa version of it as it will be helpfull to Hindus in future also.

Gurfateh Das can say one thing that CBI is also an agency of Indian Govt. These Extra judicial acts of forces can not be done without the support of political establishments.

Gurfateh No one brainwashed Das. Das knows that Govt of India at present may not indulge in terrorsit acts.That also at own civilians.

Gurfateh Resepcted Brother, Das accepts what you are saying but a few things. 1. no outsider can get benefit till house is itself not divided.We can n ot do the same in Pak as they do in Kashmeer till we have local support espeacily for terrorist sabotage. 2. Likewise some time orgaonsations which are good for nations are tagged anti national like VHP was in 1992. 3. Sarv Dharam Sambhav can not be pratice with those faiths which have no faith in this term itself and there are many such people even in grab of Hindus. 4. Deeds of present Governt can be at least better than last as it is dealing with foe in its(foe's) own way and not trying to be a gentleman in world arena at the cost of natioanal interest. 5. Then coming to people who support terror living abroad.Das realy sorry to disagree as recent Blast in Delhi,Bahdur Garh and Chandigarh are proof that they are on there job.In fact Babbers from Germany have gain the help of Hindu migrants in west who are punajbi as well as in India some Bihari Hindus who may help them at Bihar Nepal Border. We can not take them forgranted and going to embassy is only a sort of symbol of thier bent of mind.Taking them lightly will be the same mistake as did during start of 80's by not thinking that such element can realy do Bad. They may not need Pakistani money as they can pool lots of dollers themselves and can use Bangldesh or Nepal route to enter and like In Jammu in Punjab also Hindus can be on thier pay roll. 6. Lastly for reconversion Das can say that hindus are a least bothered about it as usual. Hindus do not learn from the past mistake and Sikhs too have got this habit rahter this bad habit from them. They trust even Anti National People who do flatary just on thier face values. Bad freind is worse then a good enemy.So some Khalistanis are misguided then to say BAd and we need to obejectivley make them join us then tagging them Bad.Else even minor political or Economical probelm can be easyly converted into communal one as did in past and very same persons who are opposed actually are covertly encouraginf the same. Main purpose for das's writing all this is to let us all know that anyone who oppse biogatory in panth may not be an agent of RSS,All anti left or congress are not CIA agents and all Khalistanis may not be sponsered by ISI. Either sides of them can apporach eaCH OTHER AS BOTH ARE ANTI INDIAN. Our Motto should be utilised the tALENT OF THESE ANTI INDIAN SIKHS for pro Hindu or Pro India cause. WE do not hjave able leaders like RSS has but Sikh have more motivated cadres then there and there could be something called made for eachj others. Forgive das if wrong is writtan.

Gurfateh Well fundamenatalism is in all but we need to control that in our respective faiths.

Gurfateh Das wants to know Was it Indian So Called Hindu Government which made Bad film like Boly So Nihal to allgedly defame Sikhs which lead to large scale protests and in those protrests even Hindus of Punjab came out openly to support Sikhs. So if Indian Govt. made such film then why should it bomb the cinema showing the same to discourage viwrs to see it and hall owners to stop its screning. In fact Mr Ponty Chadhdha who is distrributer of the film has strong ties with govt/politicians. Panth must not copy Al Qaeda of Pakistani who commit wrong and then blame the same to the sufferer. It was a combined Sikh and Hindu attemt suported by Babbers to do blast in hall. Had they not did it when people were in or done it at a place hwere there would hvae been no civilian casua;lities like in arking lot etc. then lss of life may not have occured. In mvements collatral damges can n ot be ruled but but we must not suport kiling of innocents. Say we kill 10 hindus they will kill 20 of our innocents and this will goes on. To act sensibly we ned to take coopration of all clases of peple like Sikhs at misl perid did against the crupt government so insite of being a minority Sikhs were able to make Sikh Kingdom in area inhabited by Majority of Muslims. Das just wants to request to be careful in near future when we have similar situation.

Gurfateh Respected Brother Amrital Singh JI, Das can say one thing that organisations like Dal Khalsa etc may not be product of ISI but could be from the internal politics. So we can not say that everything which can go upto the level of Anti Nationalism(Das is not saying that it is bad only) may be inner built and outsider like ISI can make use of it. Coming to the short memory of Hindus Das can say with confidance that thier main motto is live and let live and forgive and forget and they only react to offencive and are never proactive this is hapening sicne long in history. Then while we deal with Pakistan's activity in anti Indian works we can say that performance of Manmohan Singh@ Mrs Sonia Gandhi to deal with Islamic terror is much more better. Das can say that BJP type people speak a lot but when it comes to act they tend to do gimmicks like op Parakram,while rioting in Gujrat may cost us some of our sympathisers in Pakistan. Well Das can say that our Hindu brethreans are concerned the least for reconversin esspecialy in Punjab so missionaiers rule the roost. Das wants to say one more thing that genunine pro Hindu organisation is Bajrang Dal(www.bajrangdal.org which we can not see in India due to Ban on it) and needless to say they too say that for the benefit of Hindus even if they have to support congress it is OK. On behalf of them Das can extend an offer to Mrs Gandhi that if she converts to Hinduism or Sikhism and makes an offcial policiy to uplift Hindus in India Bajrangdal Can help her. Das gave the link of Dalkhalsa only to prove that ISI is not always th cause but may add fodder to flame.As we may do in ..... Das can see that main reason of rift between Sikhs and Hindus is this that since long Hindu leaders have been cheating Hindus by arising their pations and after gaining power slowly forgeting them. Sikhs also have been with them since start but they do notice this plot of leaders of Hindus and feel cheated. Main problem of Hindu Sikh rift in punjab has been the due to this. unlike in other states crrupt bureaucracy or poltical executive could be of same faith but in places like Punjab or Kashmir due to differnace of faith it is given a communal colour else in UP or Bihar things are much more in Bad shape there we can have maoists replacing Khalistanis or Jehadis. But neither Maoists,Sikhs or Muslims are Hindus.Because Hinduism teaches to tolrate which sometimes gos upto the extent of cowdardice. Das an give an example(there are many more we can put online) . There was no need to say that we will have no first use of nuclear priamary weapon.We need not have to be so much reluctant to send oour men to Iraq or Afghanistan(still some are there even before US invasion). Das can say one thing for Mr Advani psudo natinalist/pseudo hawk and best person over there in Dr MM Joshi or Mr V Katyar as they can even motivate Muslims to die for countary. Das even knows that some of his Muslims frineds who were otherwise pro India did not vote for NDA in lok Sabha polls becuse they felt that BJP is playing frindship with Pakistan card to woe them which they found humiliating this more true for Shias,Ansaries or lower castes or south India Muslims etc. Well there are majority of Muslims who oppose BJP but by there attemts to copy other seudo seculars for appeasesment cost them thier own Hindu votes. Mr Advani did the same mistake. report of inciden of clash in jallendhar as follows http://www.rss.org/New_RSS/News/NewsDetail.jsp http://www.rss.org/New_RSS/News/NewsDetail.jsp

Gurfateh Needless to say that we have many a hindus who lik the b_mof boss of ISI ie Musharf and praise a demon like Jinnah calling him bird of pece and secular. And RSS stands hopeless in front of them. If RSS had no control of such people who pose as Hindu but act for ISI then why the hell does it come to ask for vote to such people. Coming back to Khalistan Problem Das can say that usaly Sikhs are frostrated by the callousness of people who lead Hindus. They make tall claims to defend national interset but make voice only and no action.Often Sikhs support them even on the cost of thier lives(Like in mergency period) but thet ditch hindus. As hindus are son of cow ie in thier mind they are like beast of burdan so they forget the mistakes of oppressors but Sikhs have memoray like that of snake ,Never forget and never forgive the culprit. So do Sikhs feel unhappy to live with people of such menatality(this could be Hindu father of Das also who is Ex Officer of Indian Army). If Hindus have to survive and want Sikhs to live with them then They must also develop Mnetality like that of Sikhs ie ruthless. Else no one will like to live with them as they are sinking ship due to treachourus leaders and anyone who attaches with such ship also sinks. So there is great demand to overcome such selfishness in hindus and If Hindu is strong and united Like Sikhs are there will be no problems. Irony is that Badal like people have learnt this thing from BJP ie to get the power on the bogey of welfare of religeion but let the issue reamain unresolved so that political benefit still have a potential in future. eg Mr Advanis recent harpijng on Rama temple what the f...ing hell was he saying while he was n power.He cheated us a lot.Das can not list all the things attributed to him. If Mr/Ms SAG ROTI are in Inida visit the real site http://dalkhalsa.com [web:0bc403743e]http://dalkhalsa.com[/web:0bc403743e] Anyway Das is intersted that if Sag Roti Ji are from Punjab as his name suggest then we can talk a good lot on that issue inspite of das being a non Punjabi.

Gurfateh Simple thing is that a true Sikh is True Muslim(literal meaning of a Muslim is that who surrunders to God).