GurjantGnostic

Dueling, competitive fighting, firearms and becoming occupied have eroded all the practices that used to deal with that. 

I've been reworking ideas about that based on Panj Singhs but I've not spent as much time studying tactics for infantry at that scale. I do understand some. I am able to scale Aikido up and out indefinitely but it's a process. 

The scale we will see is probably more like tactics used in Vietnam and Afghanistan, asymmetrical, irregular. 

Really our numbers and resources are disadvantaged enough we have to be head hunters, avoiding the majoity of forces and taking the fight to the truly responsible. 

Much of the rest is more like just policing the hoards surrounding everyone. 

Which ironically is what the Ninja and Yakuza did for Japan with the Yamabushi. 

1 hour ago, paapiman said:

What about the War tactics/Martial arts of the Samurais? Are they still practiced by people in secret?

Thanks

 

Bhul chuk maaf

To my knowledge not much exists on that scale. 

There are historical reinactors, that study on that scale. It is in books. 

Some sword, spear, and halberd Ryu still train for multiple weapons, or melee environments. 

Really you'd probably find that at a more special forces scale in the Ninja Ryu like Iga or Koga and the Yakuza Gumis. 

Mm. Almost forgot Yamabushi. They are pretty gupt though. 

11 minutes ago, paapiman said:

Where is Nidar Singh jee now? What is he up to nowadays?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

I am not one of his Chela so I don't know. Although anyone could learn things from watching him.  I have, and I almost never steal moves outside of what I have already been immersed in, But I believe he continues to travel circuits to train them. 

I think it's politics, and affiliations and the way he expresses certain things that have him alienated from Paanth to whatever degree. I'm not weighing in on any side of that, but it's not for no reason. 

I do however respect him, have love for him as my brother and I hope he keeps the interest of the Paanth truly at heart as he rubs elbows, and I hope he continues doing much of what he is doing. He does worry some people. It's like the Niddar Singh Nihang disclaimer. I don't think he'd be offended. 

I don't envy him. It's taken a lot to do what he's done, whether we fully approve of him or his work. 

There is a viral video of him doing a demo of sorts with Salotar with a Nihang and while both men were very, very well trained, I must say, without offense to Nihang Hanji, that Niddar did indeed demonstrate the better understanding in that exchange, on a fundamental level, that he eventually had to make clear to the other Singh through grappling.

As a Paanth we need to increase our training in Shastar Vidya. 

While not complete or exclusive the list I would most like to see gain traction are in order. 

1. An emergent Sant Gursikh to reveal the actual full system of Shastar Vidya. Timeless. And currently Gupt. I can not reveal this myself as I am not worthy to possess it, but I would recognize it. I could validate it actually. 

2. Dal Panths convene and unite to recreate a cohesive system, military effective, spiritually cohesive with Gurmat, and health inspiring into old age. There are Dharmic structures from Aikido I would love to share with them for said process but they are not asking me to do this or doing this themselves soo..moot point. But I feel I could indeed aid in that process.

I put the following together on the same tier and invite them to be equals and respect each other and propogate noncompetitively in the Paanth. 

Most controversial. Totally legitimate at least in terms of applicability to Dharam Yudh. Shastar Vidya as taught by Nidar Singh Nihang. His influence and that of his students will continue to feed into the Vidya of the Paanth. 

Students of Nidar Singh who have trained with, but broken away from, that teach Shastar Vidya but from a more securely Paanthic perspective based on Gurmat as most Samparada see it. 

Gutka. Goes through a deep revision and calibration to be more martial and less demo. I seem to be much more optimistic about this than any Sikhs I talk to about it lol. There's more to Gatka than people give it credit. But yes. It would need a reformat for Dharam Yudh or even self defense just a bit. We have a tool in Aikido called Riai. Run it through that it comes out the other side totally martial and healthy again. 

I'd love to introduce a very Puran, very rare, very valuable, Original form of Aikido into the Sikh Paanth. That I can guarantee you is fully cohesive. Armed unarmed. Multiple attackers into asymmetrical and irregular warfare. Works for men, women and children alike. Is entirely spiritually cohesive with Gurmat and actually physically demonstrates it in its form, and is a health practice with oral teachings going back into Treta Yugh. Better than Tai Chi or yoga for the elders even. This Aikido exists in only a few places and none of it is being operated at full potential for four reasons. It's not being done with Naam as it was demonstrated. It's not rising up to it's proper framework as a Degh, Tegh, Fateh based organization as it was designed and demonstated. It is shared more punblically than Dharam and Shastar Vidya was once shared so you have to edit it in most situations because of Karam. It's monetized.

So as far as I can see. Real Aikido. The full thing. All the secrets and shadows and gems can only be taught hypothetically within the Sikh Paanth, or hypothetically within an organization litetally based and built on Gurmat for the purpose I would have to start. There are gupt pockets of the Highly Spiritual Nihon Jin where this exists secretly. You will not find this in full form publically in Japan. There are only a few Dojos that even teach most of it there.  

I plan to offer this first to a Nihang Bunga where I live and go from there. I have high hopes for a few of the Aikido Dojos, but largely what you see is not Aikido truly and so the Dharam of Aikido is under threat of extinction. I would like to plant a remaining rare species of it in the Sikh Paanth to preserve it in it's most Sat form, and by doing so let it protect the Paanth. 

You will continue to see Aikido Dojos. It's always a healthy thing to do really but Aikido is highly criticized, often rightly, because the lineages and available Dojos are largely watered down, incomplete, and unauthentic. A lot of it is dead wood soon to be lost, or just not really the actual product. There are specific pieces sort of housed in this or that Kai or Khan or Ryu but the full thing? That's only happening in secret right now. There are a lot of intended purposes Aikido will continue to serve that a lot of people don't realize, and seeds have been planted for some other tasks, but I would love to show the Sikh Paanth the fully unedited version. It'll blow your mind. You'll recognize the maker immediately. 

The only people Khalsa enough to have the unedited version shared with them from the beginning with no negative Karam impact...is the Khalsa. I really don't know who else I could show it to that's worthy of handling it. 

The Guru is so perfect. Everything is in Guru Granth Sahib Ji, Dasam Granth, Sarbloh Granth. Vaaran Bhai Gurdas Ji. 

The multifaceted, complete, gem like structure of what they build for us is perfect. Their gifts always serve all purposes, have all the information you need, it all relates to itself cohesivley in every direction. These things are Timeless. Changless. You can go to Sach Akhand and run your hands over their Puran Architecture. 

In the whole world having looked everywhere there are only two things like it. In a specific order. Gursikhi. The Truth on the Truth. Complete. Puran. 

And the original and almost lost or unkown Takemusu Aikido as a fruit of Sat Dharam, plucked by Akal Purakh, given to O' Sensei and placed in the Iwama Jinja under the protection of Saito. It too stands alone but you have to know what it is and while totally true it is a segment only of Sat Dharam which has been gifted for very multifaceted but specific purposes. 

You can find it all in the art of Purtan Gursikhs and other Dharams when you know how to look too. 

Pay really close attention to battle scenes with Devte. 

Also remember Guru Gobind Singh Ji paints the most beautiful images with Dasam Bani, regarding battles and ages that occur in 10 and 4 directions. 

A lot of it survives in Celtic oral tradition as well. 

Who are allies are, and what our spiritual purpose in this place is, has survived, and it matches everything else I've encountered. 

Simplest answer.  Dasam Granth. Most key piece. 

3 hours ago, paapiman said:

Where did you get the above info from bro?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

I came in through the basement lol. You won't believe what's down there. It's not easy to answer that exactly. 

There is a reason Gurbani says that the Torah and Vedas are not false, to study them, but that they are not Gurbani. They are not Sat Dharam. Puran Dharam. 

You have to know what they are. The Torah is not a Dharmic book. It's not a Religion. It is a book of history, apocolypse law, and future history or prophecy. For the Jacobite people. And it's been adulterated.  The Psalms of David are the closest thing to what the Granths of the Levite Priest Clan would have been for the Paleo Hebrews. 

If you spent an entire lifetime you could study science, history, sociology, every type of metaphysics, meditation, every Dharam Do and Tao, Zazen, Animism, Shamanism, Gematria, astrology, kabbala, psychic practices, mentalism, spy craft, hypnosis, every religion, every magic. You could study the dark side from the perspective of fighting it and putting it ti work, you could recombine the entirety of indigenous history, tradition, cultural and spiritual practice that is left. You could be schooled by Jacobites in Torah, in Vedas and Puranas, and even by White Supremacists, Imperials and Devils brave enough to tell you truths. Masons. Military. 

OR!

You could just read Guru Granth Sahib Ji, and Dasam Bani. Ithias. Sakhian. The Guru has given you everything.

Some of its just slightly easier if you talk to a Paleo Hebrew who really knows the Torah. 

It actually only makes full sense once you Read Dasam Bani.