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Muslim prophet didn't call himself God. Even Christ and Abrahim and Moses didn't call themselves God. Krishan had super ego and called himself God. Even today crores of people consider him God. This shabad of Sri Shabad Hazare is super clear that Krishan's super ego made him drown in the world ocean.

https://www.worldgurudwaras.com/gurudwaras/gurudwara-sri-qilla-mubarak-sahib-bathinda/

I hv not been there but have heard that at this place, Jhatka of a bull was done.

I mean when a kathvachak glorifies krishan "bhagwan", sangat shud quote this shabad to the kathavachak. You wrote that you hv no idea. This shabad is so simple to understand. Guru Sahib wrote Gurbani for all Sikhs and not just for a sikh who holds phd in Sikhi. We shud be brave enough to accept something when Gurbani is clearly stating so. Why this love for krishan who declared himself Akal Purakh? Muslims are much better than us in this regard. They will never glorify krishan as our "gianis" do.

Plz watch below at 0:50 Vishnu, brahma and shiv hid themselves in mitti(dirt) out of fear of Beerajnad demon.

https://gurmatbibek.com/forum/read.php?3,4772 Late Bhai Kulbir Singh ji has done vichar of this shabad in the above link. He says that Hindu trinity (Brahma, vishnu and shiv ji) themselves drown and hence, can't help their bhagats attain salvation. Many of our kathavachaks are too hinduized. They try to please the Hindu community by glorifying krishan "bhagwan". Sarbloh Granth Sahib, the great rachna of Dasmesh Pita, says that when Beerajnad demon got very powerful, brahma vishnu and shiv ran to the forest and prayed to get help from Akal Purakh.

Gurbani is God's word. We shud have direct relationship with Gurbani and shud not be over reliant on translations or kathavachaks. Kathavachaks keep speaking for long hours and sometimes over complicate things. This shabad is in very simple language.

@Soulfinder??

ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ ਪਾਤਿਸ਼ਾਹੀ ੧੦॥रागु कलिआन पातिशाही १०॥RAGA KALYAN OF THE TENTH KINGਬਿਨ ਕਰਤਾਰ ਨ ਕਿਰਤਮ ਮਾਨੋ ॥बिन करतार न किरतम मानो ॥Do not accept anyone else except God as the Creator of the universe;ਆਦਿ ਅਜੋਨਿ ਅਜੈ ਅਬਿਨਾਸ਼ੀ ਤਿਹ ਪਰਮੇਸ਼ਰ ਜਾਨੋ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥आदि अजोनि अजै अबिनाशी तिह परमेशर जानो ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥He, the Unborn, Unconquerable and Immortal, was in the beginning, consider Him as Supreme Ishvara……Pause.ਕਹਾ ਭਯੋ ਜੋ ਆਨਿ ਜਗਤ ਮੈ ਦਸਕੁ ਅਸੁਰ ਹਰਿ ਘਾਏ ॥कहा भयो जो आनि जगत मै दसकु असुर हरि घाए ॥What then, if on coming into the world, one killed about ten demons;ਅਧਿਕ ਪ੍ਰਪੰਚ ਦਿਖਾਇ ਸਭਨ ਕਹ ਆਪਹਿ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਕਹਾਏ ॥੧॥अधिक प्रपंच दिखाइ सभन कह आपहि ब्रहमु कहाए ॥१॥And displayed several phenomena to all and caused others to call Him Brahm (God).1.ਭੰਜਨ ਗੜ੍ਹਨ ਸਮਰਥ ਸਦਾ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਸੋ ਕਿਮ ਜਾਤ ਗਿਨਾਯੋ ॥भंजन गड़्हन समरथ सदा प्रभ सो किम जात गिनायो ॥How can He be called God, the Destroyer, the Creator, the Almighty and Eternal,ਤਾ ਤੇ ਸਰਬ ਕਾਲ ਕੇ ਅਸਿ ਕੋ ਘਾਇ ਬਚਾਇ ਨ ਆਯੋ ॥੨॥ता ते सरब काल के असि को घाइ बचाइ न आयो ॥२॥Who could not save himself from the wound-causing sword of mighty Death.2.ਕੈਸੇ ਤੋਹਿ ਤਾਰਿ ਹੈ ਸੁਨਿ ਜੜ ਆਪ ਡੁਬਯੋ ਭਵ ਸਾਗਰ ॥ कैसे तोहि तारि है सुनि जड़ आप डुबयो भव सागर ॥ O fool ! listen, how can he(Vishnu Incarnation) cause you to cross the dreadful ocean of Sansara (world), when he himself is drowned in great ocean?ਛੁਟਿਹੋ ਕਾਲ ਫਾਸ ਤੇ ਤਬ ਹੀ ਗਹੋ ਸ਼ਰਨਿ ਜਗਤਾਗਰ ॥੩॥੧॥छुटिहो काल फास ते तब ही गहो शरनि जगतागर ॥३॥१॥You can escape the trap of death only when you catch hold of the prop of the world and take refuge in Him. @Premi @GurjantGnostic @dalsingh101 the line in bold is very easy to understand. Do you agree that krishan drowned in world ocean?? why don't our babaas and kathavachaks speak the above shabad from our Gurdwara stages?? Some gurbani shabads are tough to understand and some easy to understand but GurBani never contradicts itself. The above shabad is very easy to understand.

I will stop my mazaak with you. I used to be pretty concerned with what people think about me. Now I don't. Most of the world (which includes present day Sikhs too) is just running after maya, money, power, fame, popularity. Other than few Naam abhiyaasi gursikhs, I hv no concern, faith or trust on this world.

@dalsingh101 I hv HUGE respect for you. The way you interpret Dasam Bani, you are blessed. Your thinking and your posts are a great benefit to the Khalsa Panth. You are way way better than our fudhu babaas and fudhu "knowledgeable" kathavachaks. My intention was not to mock you but to irritate you in a friendly manner.

Okay. May be there is cultural difference. You born and brought up in UK and me in punjab. I do such mazaak with almost all my friends. I also wrote to GurjantGnostic veer 'May Allah give u 72 beautiful girls in heaven' That was just mazaak and GurjantGnostic bro understood my mazaak.

My comment was "No true God devotee can dream about Islamic salvation of wine and girls." I stand by this comment. I mentioned ur name in brackets just to do mazaak or irritate u like a younger brother. I m 40 and no woman has ever told me that I misbehaved with her. Even when I was monaa and studying in Delhi, lots of Hindu girls were after me but I never used any girl for fun or sex.

U talk about Sikh sites. Are Gurdwara stages the right place to glorify Krishan who fucked almost every girl he saw? Crores of people including millions of women worship krishan. Crores of women worship shiv ji penis

Krishan fucked almost every girl he saw. Hundreds of our bhainchod babaas and kathavachaks glorify krishan "bhagwan" on our gurdwara stages. Do u hv gutts to stop them or call them fudhu on their face. It's very brave of you to call me fudhu and mock my mental health.

Even in joke, my intention is to expose the fudhu concepts of islam. Islam is highly anti woman and they hv been using jihad and mujahidd words to kill humanity for 1400 years.

Exactly. I didn't write anything against women. Chanakya wrote against women and he is followed by crores of people. Krishan became gopi admin cut and fucked every girl of vrindavan and he is considered God by crores of people. Mohammad created a highly admin cut anti woman religion and he is followed by crores of people. He had multiple wives including a 8-9 year old child. I didn't write anything against women and I m being told that I write sleazy stuff. This world is a bhainchod admin cut place. Dally Singh openly writes against jatts etc. He has hundreds of casteist posts but I never called him admin cut. I shud have.

Dear elder bro I do mazaak with u because I consider u my elder bro. I would never do such mazaak with a person I don't know or care about. If u r feeling irritated, I won't do it in the future.

Himachal Pradesh Hindus dislike Sikhs from Guru Sahib ji's time. They worship stones and behave like stone hearted. They attack in mob. If they love Bharat Mata so much, why don't they go to China border or challenge Taliban for a fight. I can guarantee if these pahari Hindus hv a fight with Taliban, they will abandon their Bharat Mata flags and run with their pants wet.

Beautiful write up by Veer Mehtab Singh ji https://gurmatbibek.com/forum/read.php?3,30545,30587

I also feel that that lakshman cutting the noose of ravan's sister was a very wrong thing to do. @GurjantGnostic @Premi If a girl is attracted towards u and wants a relationship with U, there are many ways to say no or to stop her, cutting her noose would be a huge sin....

I admire hanuman ji's loyalty towards Vishnu Avtar Ram. Loyalty is a great virtue, if not the greatest of the virtues. One of the many beauties of Dasam Granth Sahib is that it puts the previous avtars and spiritual personalities in right context. They were not immortal or perfect. They made mistakes too. I think hanuman made a mistake in setting the entire country on fire. It's a decision made in krodh or anger.

Hanuman ji set entire Lanka on fire. I was just thinking that if today a country burns an entire enemy country which would result in death of so many civilians, won't that be considered as a serious war crime ?? @GurjantGnostic @dalsingh101 @Premi

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