1 minute ago, dalsingh101 said:

Writings on the wall. 

Try scaring some of the agricultural university researchers into developing something that might help?   

They will only care when there is no turning back. Until then they want to enjoy their pay without putting in any work or effort.

5 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:

Go read that Sikh Revolution book that they had one of their protégés write. 

See for yourself what they really thought of pendus and their mentalities and capabilities. They knew full well that these people were a weak spot for exploiting the panth, and that's why they focused on them.  

 

yes many "pendus" i agree didn't use their brain and were just like sheep following their British masters but as many Sikhs did fight against the British for Punjab and Sikhi. Singh Sabha movement( which the British did end up infiltrating) was still a large scale anti British reaction. Yes there are faults that resulted because of it but my point is that there were many Sikhs who had strong anti British sentiments and tried their best to fight for Sikhi and Punjab to counter British propaganda so why should i care about an anti-Sikh anti-Punjab Bhagat Singh.

5 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:

Because most 'Sikhs' of that era became hardcore, bhundhu, willing slaves of their goray masters. But he is one of the ones who fought back. If it weren't for people like him, we (as a community) would look as if we actually conform to all those stereotypes of docile, dumbo, pendu sepoys. 

 

 

there were many sikhs who took revenge from British and were anti British to the core. Bhagat singh only wanted to take revenge for lala lajpat rai's death who himself was anti sikh. Have you read his views on Punjabi language, punjab and economics in general. Bhagat singh wasn't any different than other Indians in that he also latched onto foreign beliefs and system like communism. How can someone think this person was intelligent?

7 minutes ago, dalsingh101 said:

Are you sure this 'amritdhari Singh' wasn't a token, gora's chumcha, whose amrit revolved around loyalty to the british queen more than dasmesh pita. 

bhagat singh killed him accidentally though not because of he was a chumcha of goras.

6 minutes ago, dalsingh101 said:

Maybe it's a generational thing. Now, to get at Hindus we start to attack other Panjabi shaheeds. In colonial times, apnay started sidelining Dasam Granth because they thought it was 'hindu'. For people of my time, people like Bhagat Singh and Udham Singh are maximally respected. Whatever India has done since them, doesn't reflect on them. 

It's like that stupidity of not calling diwali diwali to me, despite Guru ji calling it thus. If we want to attack and confront the establishment, we shouldn't start attacking Panjabi shaheeds too. 

And I'm pretty sure Bhagat Singh turned atheist/commie because he was probably disgusted at seeing how the brits were mass manipulating the majority of dumbo pendus, and through them, Sikhi (to the point of creating some new protestant 'Sikhism' which many still latch onto). As well as mass manipulating them into being their poster boy, imperial attack dogs. It's cringe worthy. These people seem exactly like dogs in that they seem to run around looking for a master and can't function without one.  No independent spirit.  What's next? Are people going to start insulting the Gaddari babay because some of them (presumably to make allies against the colonialists) were also communist? Who we going to diss next? Sohan SIngh Bhakna??    

Now, Mann, who I used to have a lot of respect for, starts telling apnay to start jumping into wars in europe again, like we haven't learnt any lessons from that. What century is he living in?  F**k that! 

naah my point is why is bhagat singh considered so great? I just want to know one thing he did that made him so great that sikhs will not bother with beadbi of gurus but go mental over some one comment against him. I just need someone to tell me one great thing he did that no other sikh shaheed has done. why is he propped up so much in Punjab? what has his contribution been compared to sikh shaheeds that even in text books you will find his name but none of sikh shaheeds.

53 minutes ago, dalsingh101 said:

This guy's now an out of touch dinosaur that has no relevance to me. I don't want to talk about him full stop. 

how? He is  right. Indian state used to itself call bhagat singh terrorist until they wanted sikhs to forget their own martyrs and imposed this bhagat singh dude as a shaheed on sikhs in the 80s. I dont know what bhagat singh has done that 1000s of sikhs have not in the past already? Also bhagat singh ended up killing innocent people too so why is the killer of beant singh called a terrorist and not bhagat singh? Indians have reserved the word terrorist for people who dont agree with their nonsense and revolt against it.Can someone give me one reason bhagat singh is considered so "special" and please shed light on how his communist beliefs would have been good?

8 hours ago, paapiman said:

Usually Gurmukh Brahamgyanis follow the will of Sri Waheguru jee. 

This might sound rude or inhumane, but those people who are starving (in their current life form) probably must have starved other people in their previous lives. But, devout Sikhs will try to help the needy people as much as they can, as it is the Hukam of Maharaaj to do so.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

i agree with you. Alot of these people cant come to terms with this fact that our life is largely determined by our previous karams and our future is largely dependent on our own karams.

2 hours ago, Premi said:

@shastarSingh Veer Ji

please do not forget why Sikhs do not live in big numbers in Pakistan

Do not forget what has happened in our past from 1947 and before

And you should be aware from forums at least, what happens when they are in big numbers in other countries and attack our females 

yeah idk what is wrong with our people? People who forget their past are doomed. People who say times have changed are doomed.

On 7/10/2022 at 9:22 PM, shastarSingh said:

Veerji

I m telling u a fact. Turban is HUGELY respected in Pakistani punjab.

Hindus make so many jokes on Sardaars.

Veerji hv u observed that Muslim women on a whole are much better human beings than Muslim men ?

@GurjantGnostic??

They mostly do this drama to earn money through tourism since their economy is in shambles. I wouldn't trust them in a 1000 years. the problem with Sikhs is they see someone acting nice and will forget all the bad things done to them by the same group over and over again which is why we are in this condition. Even after getting back-stabbed left and right we have not learnt our lesson.

6 hours ago, shastarSingh said:

 BJP govt. provides them 40 kg of wheat/rice etc.  free of cost every month which is a good thing govt. is doing.

 

wheat/rice barely has any nutrition. Its just a cheap food that will prevent people from starving and is used by the govt to keep the people barely alive. So many children in India are malnourished and suffer from metabolic syndrome and nutritional deficiencies due to mostly eating these carb heavy foods. People keep birthing multiple kids and giving them wheat/rice and then you are stuck in this vicious cycle.

5 minutes ago, shastarSingh said:

@GurjantGnostic

@dalsingh101

@Premi

@proudkaur

Does this obsession with boy child exist in the western society too?

i have observed it only in south asians. I dont think whites, latins or any other groups ( even arabs) care about such things. Here in Toronto as well many south asians were getting female fetuses aborted for a long time Not sure how much has changed in the past 10 years.

On 6/18/2022 at 9:49 AM, Premi said:

https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/ludhiana/sikh-man-moga-abducted-iran-kin-write-to-pm-modi-7969976/lite/

@proudkaur
 

Sikh man from Moga abducted in Iran kin write to PM Modi

• Written By Divya Goyal | Ludhiana | 
• Updated: June 14, 2022 11:58:18 pm

Manjinder Singh Sidhu (34), a fruit trader, had settled in Doha, Qatar, nearly eight years. His family said that he went to Iran on a business trip where he was allegedly abducted by some unidentified people who demanded Rs 10 lakh ransom.

Manjinder Singh Sidhu belongs to Daudhar Garbi village of Moga. His family said that even as he managed to escape and reach Tehran, the Indian Embassy was not providing any assistance to facilitate his safe return to India.

Manjinder Singh Sidhu (34), a fruit trader, had settled in Doha, Qatar, nearly eight years. His family said that he went to Iran on a business trip where he was allegedly abducted by some unidentified people who demanded Rs 10 lakh ransom.

Sandeep Kaur said that her brother Sidhu had started his fruits business nearly three years back in Qatar and he had gone to Iran to get containers of watermelons loaded.
 

“He had gone there for his business but some unidentified persons abducted and robbed him. They also snatched his 3000 Euros and blackmailed him for more money.
 

They also threatened to kill him following which we also arranged the ransom amount of Rs 10 lakh but even then they did not release him. He also sent multiple messages to the Indian Embassy but there was no response.

 

Somehow my brother managed to escape from their custody and reach Tehran but even then the Indian Embassy has not offered any help to him till date.

No arrangements are being made for his safe return,” said Sandeep Kaur.…

So he is still stuck now? Who would go to iran to work as a non muslim seeing the conditions is beyond me.

They have built their temples on many buddhist sites. They have eradicated Buddhism from India systematically and its funny how they act like they are the victims always.