The Khalsa Fauj

Sadoo is the gyan from Guru. Sadhoo is the updesh and not some human dude. Updesh is enshrined in Guru Granth Sahib Ji Someone said about live debate. I say bring it on. Somebody said I lost debate, bring on live debate and we will see who loses. Everyone says our person won debate. Just look at the debate between Prof. Darshan Singh and Dhadianwala. Dhadrian side says we won the debate while Prof. Darshan Singh side says Prof. Darshan Singh won the debate. It is up to unbiased sangat to decide who won the debate. By the way, deleting posts and placing moderation isn't winning debate but losing it. Like I said, bring live debate and we will settle it there on who won and who lost.

Once you understand the quotes I posted. You will know who gave me Gurmantar. You can use www.sikhitothemax.com to find translations of those quotes. My Guru gives me Gurmantar to sum it up. My Guru is Guru Granth Sahib Ji. What about you? Who did you get Gurmantar from?

ਮੈ ਅਉਖਧੁ ਮੰਤ੍ਰੁ ਦੀਜੈ ਗੁਰ ਪੂਰੇ ਮੈ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮਿ ਉਧਰੀਐ ਜੀਉ ॥੩॥ ਮੈ ਅਉਖਧੁ ਮੰਤ੍ਰੁ ਦੀਜੈ ਗੁਰ ਪੂਰੇ ਮੈ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮਿ ਉਧਰੀਐ ਜੀਉ ॥੩॥ ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਗੁਰ ਮੰਤ੍ਰੁ ਚਿਤਾਰਿ ॥ ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਗੁਰਿ ਮੰਤ੍ਰੁ ਦ੍ਰਿੜਾਇਆ ਹਰਿ ਕਾ ਨਾਮੁ ਦੀਓ ਗੁਰਿ ਮੰਤ੍ਰੁ ॥ ਸਤਿਗੁਰਿ ਮੰਤ੍ਰੁ ਦੀਓ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮ ॥ ਨੰਨਾਕਾਰੁ ਨ ਹੋਤਾ ਤਾ ਕਹੁ ॥ ਨਾਮੁ ਮੰਤ੍ਰੁ ਗੁਰਿ ਦੀਨੋ ਜਾ ਕਹੁ ॥ ਪੂਰਾ ਗੁਰੁ ਅਖ੍ਹਓ ਜਾ ਕਾ ਮੰਤ੍ਰ ॥ ਗੁਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਮੋਹਿ ਮੰਤ੍ਰੁ ਦ੍ਰਿੜਾਇਆ ॥

My roots are in mool mantar. I don't know where your roots are. Hinduism?

Shabad on page 1082 is a long and deep shabad. Some random person isn't going to be able to understand or explain it. A person has to be Gurmat gyani to understand this shabad. When you come to Toronto, you can learn meaning of this shabad and get enlightenment. Use this quote to prove that God has 4 arms during live debate and we will see who gets crushed. You just rely on translations of others. You don't have gyan to do aarths yourself. Why should we delete Gurbani? That shabad is one of cornerstones to prove Dasam Granth wrong. Gurbani is our saviour. We only have issued with granths created by non Gurmat gyanis. Supnay taa supnay hee hunday aaa. Dreams are only dreams. They don't become reality and this dream of yours will not become reality either. What are you waiting for? Sher bun jaa; aakay DG prove karday. Be a lion and come to prove DG right. We will talk about mango wala meaning Har Har meaning Nirankaar meaning Gurbani. We will also discuss 4 armed mahakaal. You can come if someone can get the news to you.

Khalsa comes from Guru Granth Sahib Ji. There should be no difference in naam given by Guru Granth or Panth.

I told you before, I spent 5 days talking. It was too much. I just don't have that much time to spend. Also, I am on moderation so my posts don't go up on time anyways. You ccan say lost or whatever but I wasn't the one running to mods for bans or whatever. Bring live talk in Toronto and we will see who runs and who loses badly. You people don't even understand who God is. You things 4 arms is God. What a scene that is. That is what your mission is. You don't want to learn Gurmat. You want to make God into a 4 armed dude. Like I sad before, many posters are posting here from Toronto. Since they believe they beat me in debate, why don't they debate in public and win? They are internet scholars only? Copy paste material?

God is mangowala. Gurbani is mango. Taste it by living it.

I just make posts to see if you guys are willing to have live talk in public area. Debating online last time was too much work. I have other things to do too. I am not free to keep making replies to 10 people in 7 threads. That is too much work. Last time it took me 5 days to talk what could have been discussed in 2 hours in real time. I just don't have the time. Especially not where my posts will be moderated or deleted. Like I said before, bring live talk to public. Debate will take place properly. If someone calls me kala afgana or whatever, I will reply back in same type of language. I didn't disappear from anywhere. I am still here in Toronto with Guru's blessing. If anyone wants to talk, come forward. Why hide behind computer screen? I am always ready to talk Dasam Granth in person in Toronto area. What is the issue then? Internet just gives you people time to moderate what I say, block posts and other material. Not to mention like 10 people talking trash and giving unrelated quotes from Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

Hahahahahahahaha! Once again you studs are making assumptions. How did I backup Balbir? Balbir is weird. I will never back him up. He is lost in his own world. Read my post again. Let me explain my post. I said: What you people need to understand is who is our Guru. Our Guru is only and only Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Who gives us naam then? Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Simran means remembrance. We remember naam by practicing it. In other words, we practice naam by following Guru Granth Sahib Ji's teachings. What was so hard to understand? I don't know how that was hard to understand. Have you buddies been drinking some next level drink to not be able to understand? Your statement is extreme nonsense. I have never agreed with Balbir. Balbir loves dasam granth and you can see translations on his website. He is one weird dehdhari. Just open his site and see: www.saysatsriakal.com You guys don't understand Gurmat and then when people like Balbir question you, you start making allegations instead of proving him wrong. The points he makes have holes but I don't have time to answer them right now. I am busy with other things.

Of course I don't have time for discussion online. Why do you think I didn't make a long post to reply to Vijaydeep and made that short one. If you search the SPN forum, I used to have long debates with Vijaydeep. I had time during those times because I was a University student so made psots while in class. Situation isn't the same now. I got things to work on so I don't have to talk about shenanigans of Dasam Granth promoters. If you or Vijaydeep got game, bring it to Toronto. I do make random posts but don't engage in debate.

Why don't you guys debate jeonwala again and humiliate him again? What are you worried about if you are so confident? Just defeat him in debate again. We can discuss Kahan SIngh Nabha, Gyani Bhag Singh and Principal Harbhajan Singh when you come to Toronto. You can also order scholars from India such as Sher Singh Nihung, Harpal SIngh Pannu and others. You can order Lamba from NY. I will not call any scholars from India. How about that stipulation? What is the worry Inder Singh? Don't you want people to stop doubting Dasam Granth? Hum Hindu Nahin was written by Nabha in 1890s while Gurmat Maartund was written like 25 years later. Which would have his most recent views? You can also see the progress of his views. We can also discuss that.

Naam is attained from Guru. Simran is implementation / practice of naam.

I don't know how kala afgana came back into this thread. I told you before, I am not a fan of his. From what I have heard, he hasn't given anything new. All he has done is make books based on writings of Bhai Kahan Singh Nabha, Gyani Bhag Singh and Principal Harbhajan Singh. I am just posting to see if you are ready or willing to debate Dasam Granth. Jeonwala and Prof. Darshan Singh might be going to British Columbia soon so if you ready and willing to debate, you can call Jeonwala and set up a debate. Like I said before, you can also come to Toronto to debate. We will not harm you physically. You being psychologically hurt for not being able to answer Dasam Granth content is not in our control. Just tell me once you are ready to come to Toronto or go to Vancouver to meet up with Jeonwala and Prof. Darshan Singh.

I never said that. Stop making false allegations. This is your problem. You keep imagining things.

Another thing you can do is talk to us in Toronto and we can give u aarth to read on paper. I will not post aarths of that shabad here. It is a very very long shabad. I just don't have the time to post aarths here. There are other shabads like that which you also would want to understand. As said before, please buy that book or come to Toronto.

Inder Singh, did you see how long that shabad is? It would take pages to type aarths of that shabad. Buy a new book called Gurmat Daa Chaanan: Pandit Mulla Jo Likh Deeaa, Shad Chlay Hum Kashoo Na Leeaa. By Baldev Singh (Canada) It is printed by Lahore book shop Ludhiana.

Also, we don't believe in your copy paste aarths of Guru Granth Sahib. Do aarths by studying shabad and not by copy pasting. It is very easy to copy paste but hard to translate. Other than that, there is not much to say here because like I said before, if I post aarths of shabads you posted, you will post more. It will be really time consuming but I don't have time to kill doing aarths of bani for those who are lazy and don't want to understand Gurmat. Bring live talk and we will tell you aarths of those shabads mentioned.

Inder SIngh, you are posting from shabad on Pg. 1082. It is a shabad which is longer than a page. Someone who lacks Gurbani gyan will never understand that shabad. You have no clue about Gurmat gyan. Also, I have been placed under moderation and my posts don't go on for many hours. You guys like to believe I ran away. THis isn't true at all. Like I said before, bring live talk in Toronto and we will see who runs away from talk. Many of you people are posting from Toronto, you internet warriors know you have no truth and are hiding behind mods. Bring live talk to Toronto and we will see has has no answers. Also who do you guys take as your Guru? Jarnail SIngh or Guru Granth SAhib? I know you guys don't have faith in Guru Granth Sahib Ji. This is why you need guidance from external sources. We can also talk about nihungs and taksalis during live talk because mods won't let me post here and if they do, you will cry for deletion of post and ban.

Well, if you don't see difference. You need to do deeper study of either Guru Granth Sahib Ji or Dasam Granth, depending which you think you lack knowledge of. If you are in Toronto, we can talk some time in person and go over Dasam Granth and definition of God.

Jeho jeha patialay wala raja, oho jehe us day family member. Koee muslee laee firdaa, koee 365 aurtaa harem wich rakhee firdaa. Jeho jahee koko, teho jhay koko day bachay.

My above post is 100% correct. There is not even ranchak matar wrong in it. Jay Ko Bolay Sach Koorraa Jal Jaav-ee. Inder Singh, Gurbani dee sikheaa leaa kar. Jhooth tenu dobe devegaa. Hari daa naam leaa kar. Har Naam Binaa Dukh Paavai Bhagat Binaa Sahsaa Nahe Chookau Gur Eh Bhayd Btaavai Har Har Jappeaa Kar.

No comment to Balbir Singh. He is in a different Tier.

Just read description of Mahakaal as posted by Inder and also understand what Raam, Hari, etc. mean. Other than that, you can come to Toronto and we can talk here. I don't have time to go through each word here. It would be too long. Other than that, get enlightenment from Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

mod-edited Why should we make sect? We are the original Khalsa who believes in Guru Granth Sahib Ji instead of karam kaandee sakhis. Dasam Granthis already have a separate cult and don't even agree on bajjar kurehits. E.g. Kutha vs. meat E.g. Drugs vs. no drugs Other points: E.g. Bhog laavo vs. parvaan hoavay E.g. Hukamnama taking maryada E.g. Lambee chaupai E.g. Madh Daa Bhogg E.g. Belief in devi vs. no belief in devi and the list can go on and on and on Mod's edit. We can also talk about belt and kirpaa kaal kayree when you come to Toronto. Inder, you are all talk but no walk. You are the one who brought in Bhagautee by posting Sr. Bhagautee Aye Namah