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Can't make out the writing under the picture, what does it say?

Thanks to N30 for hosting the katha. Singh47 said there was a lot about Shias there and I came across this website about Shias Here is what believe to be unclean or impure http://www.al-shia.com/html/eng/books/fiqh...ic-laws/18.html Kafir 107. An infidel i.e. a person who does not believe in Allah and His Oneness, is najis. Similarly, Ghulat who believe in any of the holy twelve Imams as God, or that they are incarnations of God, and Khawarij and Nawasib who express enmity towards th e holy Imams, are also najis. And similar is the case of those who deny Prophethood, or any of the necessary laws of Islam, like, namaz and fasting, which are believed by the Muslims as a part of Islam, and which they also know as such. As regards the people of the Book (i.e. the Jews and the Christians) who do not accept the Prophethood of Prophet Muhammad bin Abdullah (Peace be upon him and his progeny), they are commonly considered najis, but it is not improbable that they are Pak. Ho wever, it is better to avoid them. 108. The entire body of a Kafir, including his hair and nails, and all liquid substances of his body, are najis. 109. If the parents, paternal grandmother and paternal grandfather of a minor child are all kafir, that child is najis, except when he is intelligent enough, and professes Islam. When, even one person from his parents or grandparents is a Muslim, the child is Pak (The details will be explained in rule 217). 110. A person about whom it is not known whether he is a Muslim or not, and if no signs exist to establish him as a Muslim, he will be considered Pak. But he will not have the privileges of a Muslim, like, he cannot marry a Muslim woman, nor can he be buried in a Muslim cemetery. 111. Any person who abuses any of the twelve holy Imams on account of enmity, is najis. Seems like all of us here are najis or impure.

Calm down and try to think of doing something constructive. Cursing the father isn't going to help matters. He will get what is ordained by Waheguru.

Nihangs close to Baba Santa Singh dear boy. Nihangs who can spot a true Nihang from a Uk Nihang a mile away. Is Nidder going to the Hola Mohalla this year? Looks like the Nihangs will want to give his a 'Swagat' for his 'sewa' to Sikhi..lol I hope all the Nidderettes are going, you, tsingh, beast, narsingha, should be quite a Chatka. You know who Nihangs hate behroopias trying to act like Nihangs. I've already ordered my Hola Mohalla edition of Panjab Times..lol

That's funny, aren't the UK Nihangs affiliated to the Budha Dal? Isn't Nidder the UK Jathedar of Budha Dal? Unless Nidder's talk was about particle physics or quantum theory then I suppose a talk by him about Sikh women would have some connection to the Budha Dal.. unless of course the UK Nihangs are just an unauthorised group which has no connection with the Budha Dal and solely mislead people about the Budha Dal connection to try and gain some respectability and a lineage. Makese sense most Cults such as Radhaswamis and Sant Nirankaris started off by acting like true Sikhs and saying they were promoting Gurbani but in the end they also ended up as Guru ke Dokhi. Looks like the UK Nihangs are headed that way as well.

Naranjana has provided the evidence that shows that he was a Khalsa Sikhs. All the UK Nihangs have is Nidder Singh's say so that he wasn't a Khalsa Sikh. I know who I believe.

Last q Has Nidder accepted the challenge or is he still hiding behind maryada..protocol..hadh torh challenge..blah blah blah? Maybe he needs to find out what lineage they guys who challenged him have so he can use that as any excuse..lol

I have just had a big discussion with someone who claims to be a follower of Nidder Singh. When questioned about his beliefs it seems that he as well as other nidderettes I have spoken to are not so forthcoming with their views. No doubt some of the cult members here will accuse me of being a narrow minded fanatic but then that seems to be all they have to offer whenever they are asked about their beliefs. From what I have seen of Nidder's cult they are very secretative apart of course from the 'come to the akhara' jaikara they have adopted to try and mask the lack of substance in their beliefs. Like Bhagat Kabir says empty pots make the most noise and this is what I seen here from the Nidder cult in my short time on this forum. I have a few questions Is Nidder the OFFICIAL representative of the Budha Dal in the UK? Is he Jathedar or just a member, having shown his pic to some Nihangs in Punjab they just laughed at it saying that he is a 'behrupia' a person who changes his appearance to try and mislead people. Some said that he is not even a SIKH let alone a Nihang. They were particularly amused at his style of Domala which they said that no Nihang would wear because it is something that a Nung would wear. Also his kachera caused some added laughter.. accha eh moorakh aapnay aap noon Budha Dal da Jathedar akhvonda.. were they exact words. If he is the Jathedar or even a Nihang does he possess a Nihang passport or ID card which is issued to all bonafide Nihangs?

There is no evidence from contemporary accounts ( Shri Gur Sobha ) that prove that apart from the Khalsa that Guru Gobind Singh created any other orders. If you want to believe texts written many years after the event to prove your snatan sikhi then that is your choice.