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  1. http://www.sikhmuseum.com/lostpalace/clocktower/index.html#clock1
  2. A British Vision Under British rule came a new vision for Amritsar. This new era featured an exertion of European cultural imperialism marked by the tragic demolition of the lost palace by British authorities and the construction of a large gothic style clock tower in its place to dominate over Darbar Sahib and the Amritsar skyline. Construction of the clock tower started in 1862 and work on the project would continue for over a decade until eventually completed in 1874 [1] at a cost of over Rs. 50,000. [2] Although a clock tower traditionally has a small base, it was decided that the lost palace and all other buildings in the area would be demolished during construction to create a large open courtyard around the new clock tower. The clock tower was designed by John Gordon, the Municipal Chief Engineer of Amritsar. [3] Unlike some other British buildings in their Indian empire where elements of eastern architecture were sometimes incorporated, the new clock tower was designed entirely in the traditional European gothic style with red bricks. [4] The Clock Tower at Amritsar now in course of erection, at an estimated cost of 23,000 rupees ; the style adopted in this building is the decorated Gothic. The ornamentation, though simple, is very effective, and the proportions are singularly graceful. It is proposed to place in it a clock with illuminated dials, and as it is situated on the highest ground in Amritsar, and is itself 145 feet in height, it will be a very prominent object in the city. Hand-book of the Manufactures & Arts of the Punjab, Volume II B.H. Baden Powell, Lahore, 1872 The clock tower was initially designed by the authorities as part of a master plan to be facing a Town Hal [5]. Although wisely deciding to relocate the Town Hall to another section of the city, work on the clock tower continued. The construction of the gothic clock tower and the demolition of the lost palace met with serious disapproval from the Sikhs [6], but the British ignored this and moved forward with their project. While Guru Arjan had Darbar Sahib built on the lowest elevation in the city as a mark of Sikh humility, at 145 feet the gothic clock tower completely dominated the sacred space of Darbar Sahib and the surrounding landscape of Amritsar. But there is one incongruity, one slightly jarring note, and that is the obtrusive brick clock-tower which dominates the enclosure at the entrance. Built in a style which might be termed Early New England Gothic, it must have reminded many an American wanderer of the fire-engine house in his native village, or the ambitious but inexpensive church-tower of sanded wood. Far from being intended as a gratuitous insult to the Sikhs, it was most probably a generous donation on the part of the European community, meant to serve as a perpetual object-lesson in architecture, and as a dignified protest against barbaric excess of ornament. From the Black Sea through Persia and India Edwin Lord Weeks, New York, 1896 Although there have been some suggestions that the clock tower was really built by the British as a church, photographic evidence indicates that it only had a weather vane at its pinnacle and not a cross. Also the interior chamber was a relatively small room of approximately 20ft by 20ft, not a very large or practical space for congregations or church services. Looking completely out of place at Darbar Sahib the clock tower was an eye sore and much hated by the Sikhs yet it would endure for over 70 years. Title #0 Photo 5 of 9 Clock Tower of Amritsar ca. January 24, 1906, Hannah P. Adams, gelatin silver print, SSB Collection An elevated view of the gothic clock tower photographed from the roof of Darbar Sahib. An important view as it allows us to see into the large courtyard where the lost palace once stood. The courtyard is not visible from ground level photographs of the clock tower due to the large wall separating it from the parkarma.
  3. Britain is one of the most racially tolerant countries on the planet, a survey claims. The global social attitudes study claims that the most racially intolerant populations are all in the developing world, with Jordan and India in the top five. By contrast, the study of 80 countries over three decades found Western countries were most accepting of other cultures with Britain, the U.S., Canada and Australia more tolerant than anywhere else. Enlarge Racism: This map shows the nations of the world where people have the most and least tolerant attitudes Racism: This map shows the nations of the world where people have the most and least tolerant attitudes The data came from the World Value Survey, which measured the social attitudes of people in different countries, as reported by the Washington Post. The survey asked individuals what types of people they would refuse to live next to, and counted how many chose the option 'people of a different race' as a percentage for each country. Researchers have suggested that societies where more people do not want neighbours from other races can be considered less racially tolerant. More... Which is the world's most mobile country? Migration map reveals the populations with itchy feet Finally recognised after 400 years: New York's very first immigrant honoured with three-mile stretch of Broadway named after him The country with the highest proportion of 'intolerant' people who wanted neighbours similar to them was Jordan, where 51.4 per cent of the population would refuse to live next to someone of a different race. Next was India with 43.5 per cent. Racist views are strikingly rare in the U.S., according to the survey, which claims that only 3.8 per cent of residents are reluctant to have a neighbour of another race. Diverse: The multicultural U.S. is among the least racially intolerant countries, according to the data +1 Diverse: The multicultural U.S. is among the least racially intolerant countries, according to the data Other English-speaking countries once part of the British Empire shared the same tolerant attitude - fewer than five per cent of Britons, Canadians, Australians and New Zealanders showed signs of racism. People in the UK are also tolerant of other differences such as speaking a foreign language or practising an alternative religion - for example, fewer than two per cent of Britons would object to having neighbours of a different faith to them. Similarly, fewer than one in 20 people in most South American countries admitted harbouring prejudice against other races. The Middle East, which is currently dealing with large numbers of low-skilled immigrants from south Asia, seems to be a hotbed of racial tension, however. Europe is remarkably split - the west of the continent is generally more tolerant than the east, but France is a striking outlier with 22.7 per cent of the French rejecting neighbourhood diversity. Some have pointed out problems in the survey data, claiming that because the polls span a long period of time they are an unreliable guide to current attitudes. However, a more serious flaw could be the fact that in most Western countries racism is so taboo than many people will hide their intolerant views and lie to the questioners. Max Fisher of the Washington Post suggested that maybe 'Americans are conditioned by their education and media to keep these sorts of racial preferences private, i.e. to lie about them on surveys, in a way that Indians might not be'. THE LEAST RACIALLY TOLERANT COUNTRIES 40% + (of individuals surveyed would not want a person of another race as a neighbour) India, Jordan 30 - 39.9% Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Vietnam, Indonesia, South Korea 20 - 39.9% France, Turkey, Bulgaria, Algeria, Morocco, Mali, Zambia, Thailand, Malaysia, The Philippines, Bangladesh, Hong Kong THE MOST TOLERANT COUNTRIES 0 to 4.9% United States, Canada, Brazil, Argentina, Colombia, Guatemala, Britain, Sweden, Norway, Latvia, Australia, New Zealand 5 - 9.9% Chile, Peru, Mexico, Spain, Germany, Belgium, Belarus, Croatia, Japan, Pakistan, South Africa 10 - 14.9% Finland, Poland, Ukraine, Italy, Greece, Czech Republic, Slovakia 15 - 19.9% Venezuela, Hungary, Serbia, Romania, Macedonia, Ethiopia, Uganda, Tanzania, Zimbabwe, Russia, China Source: World Values Survey An earlier version of this article incorrectly stated that Hong Kong and Bangladesh were two of the world's least racially tolerant countries. We are happy to clarify this is not the case. Read more: Washington Post: A fascinating map of the world's most and least racially tolerant countries Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2325502/Map-shows-worlds-racist-countries-answers-surprise-you.html#ixzz33kHa0eve Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
  4. BJP victory emboldens communal elements, demand to ban on loudspeakers and Azan in mosques grows up May 30, 2014 in Home Slider, Indian Muslim | 3 Comments Share on facebookShare on twitterShare on emailShare on pinterest_shareMore Sharing Services4 14101906588_16e712e6d0_oBy Muslim Mirror News, Mumbai: Emboldened by the BJP’s victory in the just concluded general elections, a far right group is demanding ban on loudspeakers in mosques in Thane district of Maharashtra. Hindu Janjagruti Samiti (HJS) organized a protest for this purpose. They prepared many big hoardings calling Hindus to unite for the cause of banning loudspeakers in mosques and asking them to gather outside Thane (W) railway station on Saturday. During the program they also obtained signatures from the attendees below a memorandum which they later on served to the district police official. The program was attended not only by the HJS members but also by the leaders and members of VHP and Bajrang Dal units of Thane who uninterruptedly provoked people against the religious rituals of Muslims. Ajay Sambhavat, spokesperson of HJS incited the feelings of Hindus by saying that why were they not allowed running loudspeakers after10 pm during Ganesh Chatrvarti and Navratri festivals while Muslims are allowed its use in their daily morning prayer. In neighboring state Karnataka also a little known Hindtuva outfit raised the ante against “azan, saying it should be banned across the country. Rashtriya Hindu Andolan in the coastal city of the state Mangalore has held a protest demonstration in front of the Deputy Commissioner office. Activists of the Sangh Parivar’s other affiliates also gathered at the spot and raised provocative slogans against the minority community. The day when election results were declared, a group of inebriated BJP hooligans attacked two Mosques in separate places of the adjoining South Kannda district.
  5. Government should ban the nonsense use of loudspeakers in mosques immediately. Ban discriminatory, risk prone, disturbing and anti-Hindu loudspeakers in mosques. Why Government should ban the nonsense use of loudspeakers in mosques and any illicit use of it in other religious and social programmes. ~ Upananda Brahmachari. Ban Jehadi Loudspeakers in MosquesIt goes without saying that the Government should impose a strict ban the use of loudspeakers during any religious functions violating the existing laws and making health hazards and utter discomfort by Mosque praer calls (5 times a day on regular basis, made of any other group of Hindus (i.e the bhajan and kirtans) and the use of high volume speakers during marriage functions, sports, mela etc. unreasonably. But the question of loudspeakers in mosques is a bit more persistent as the marriages and bhajan-jagrans don’t happen on daily basis. The unpleasant noise pollution of Mosque is repeatedly questioned as because a mosque blares loudspeaker 5 times every day. Same is not the case with temples or churches. Masjids as well as temples or in fact, anybody (even private bodies) can make any amount of Noise in India. There is no absolute and uniformed legality to ban the noise pollution in India. Different states have their separate regulatory acts and laws and obviously the political indulgence to violate such provisions. The reason why Mosques (or temples or anybody) are allowed such noise pollution is because we have a spineless government which in the name of religious freedom doesn’t even care about our privacy, peace, health, safety and security. And most people too support such decisions because for them anything even remotely religious that has no divine sanction. Really, the time considerations of Azan are very bad. One Muslim young man writes in a internet social forum that, “first lets take the time into consideration…though the loudspeakers do one azaan (call for prayer) for barely 2 or 3 minutes, the timing is quite bad.. the fazr (morning) azaan is at 5 a.m(approximately)…now all of us are not early sleepers…i sleep between 12a.m to 1a.m(force of habit)…and i am forcibly awakened by the sound of azaan at 5 a.m…needless to say it ruins my entire day…now when i try to catch my sleep in the afternoon there is an azaan at 1 p.m, one at 4 p.m, one at 6 and one at 8 p.m (all approximate)…so there goes my afternoon nap…and if u have your exams (as i had my boards) the problem is intensified to a whole new level…besides i have 3 mosques (and one in construction) in a 200m radius around my house so its no longer 3 minutes but an annoying 9 minutes (the azaans rarely overlap)..plus sound from mosques that are a bit farther does manage to trickle in during the wee hours…and i am a young fellow (or so do i consider myself)…so i can only imagine the plight of the sick and the elderly..” Exactly the Azaan from Mosques create problem for all staying in different stages of life and occupation. Is a prayer call through hi-fi sound system or in loud-speakers are too essential from a Mosque? Certainly not as it has no such mandate from any Islamic scriptures nor it has any historical legacy as such. We did not find common use of loud speaker in mosques even after the 100 years of invention of loudspeakers (in 1876). It is 1977-1980, when Indian mosques started hectic using of loud speakers in large scale and certainly not before that. And the numbers of horns in the mosques minarets are gradually increasing day by day. If anyone thinks that the prospective namazis are gradually losing their hearing capability and being deaf or it is case of sustainable hearing loss of Allah himself, so more and more horns are needed, that’s wrong. The loud-speakers of Mosques are really the ready tool of Jihad for spreading the message of it and to provoke the Muslims to start and make war against non Muslims in riot times. Late night noise pollution has become a serious problem across India even though there is a Supreme Court, High Court Ban and central government ban on it. The Calcutta high court on November, 21, 1996 banned the use of loudspeakers at all places of worship, irrespective of religion. A division bench of Justice Bhagabati Prasad Benerjee and Justice A.K. Chakraborty in their ruling stated that as India is a secular state the ban would cover all religions and steps to control noise pollution should cover all religious communities. The ban which minimised noise levels in the city during the durga-pujas and Kalipujas would also cover gurudwaras and Mosques all over West Bengal. On December 25, 1996 in the evening Milad-un-nabi (religious programme) was held in the Masjid campus near Gate No.1, in Dum Dum Airport area of Calcutta when loudspeakers were used. Officials of the State Pollution Control Board arrived there and found that the sound of the mike-system was 85 decibel (65 decibel was the limit prescribed by the Court). The matter was reported to the High Court which issued a contempt of court notice against the Masjid committee for violating its order. On 31-1-1997 the court found them guilty and imposed a penalty of Rs.2500/- to be deposited with the board. To be absolutely fair it should be added that nearly two dozen Durgapuja, Kalipuja and Jagadhatripuja Committee of Calcutta, Howrah, South -24 Parganas and Hooghly districts also were charged with the contempt of court for violating the noise pollution order and fined Rs.1000/- each. Mr. Jyoti Basu, the then Chief Minister of West Bengal, held a meeting with religious leaders of the Muslim, Sikh and Christian communities at writers Buildings in Calcutta on March 6, 1997. Moulana Mohammad Shabbir of Nakhoda Mosque, Moulana Abdul Quyum, Imam of Solana Masjid and Moulana Masudi, member of the State Waqf Board attended. The then Chief Minister informed them of the Calcutta High Court ban order and requested them to abide by it. The imams told Mr. Basu their problems in abiding by his request. While accepting the spirit of the judgement, they said that if they don’t use loudspeakers, the message of Azaan (call to prayer) will not reach the Muslims. If necessary, they would move the Supreme Court against the order, but would not tolerate any interference in Mosque affairs. Though no Muslim forum reached the Supreme Court in this particular case, the then Left Front Govt. ignored the matter in the course of time. On the other hand Govt. imposed more restrictions upon Hindu Puja committees to get loud-speaker permission and even realized fines from many Hindu puja committees for the violation o noise pollution regulatory acts. This discrimination still persists. In 2005, the Supreme court in ‘Re: Noise Pollution – Implementation of the Laws for Restricting Use of Loudspeakers and High Volume Producing Sound Systems’ case held that the right to life included the right to listen or not to listen any noise and no one could take shelter of the Indian constitution’s Art. 19 (1)(a) (freedom of expression) for creating noise. While stressing on the noise pollution created during night, the court defined ‘night’ as an intervening period between 10 pm to 6 am and imposed a complete ban on playing loud music or making any type of noise. [As reported in Reported in AIR 2005 SC 3136 : 2005 AIR SCW 3525 : (2005)6 SCC 109 vide: http://www.elaw.in/noise/noiseinre.htm ] The central government, in 2009, brought a certain amendment in the Central Acts and Rules relating to environmental pollution showing some concern toward the rampant violation of noise pollution laws. Under the central rules prohibiting noise pollution, a penal provision of imprisonment for a period of five years or fine extending upto Rs. one lakh was introduced. The amendment made the offence of noise pollution non-bailable. Recently, the central government while complying with the Supreme court’s directive after a lapse of four years made a provision in central acts prohibiting late night noise pollution by amplifiers, loudspeakers, music system etc. But there is still scant knowledge of such a ban among common people and even the law enforcement machinery of states has miserably failed to implement the provisions of the Central Act as well as the local Noise Control Act. Most of the states are either having no such law or their noise control acts are still running inconsistent with the provisions of the Central Act and therefore noise pollution is still a bailable offence. Surprisingly, there is no enactment in any state of the country to effectively check late night noise pollution despite the 2005 directive of the Supreme court. Although, Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh, Uttar Pradesh, Bihar and Orissa have a specific legislation on noise pollution but their law is inconsistent with the central act. Where the Madhya Pradesh Control of Music and Noises Act, 1951 does not define as to what type of noise can be prohibited at night, the penalty is imprisonment for just one month and fine not exceeding Rs. 100. Similarly in Bihar and Orissa a penalty provision ranging from Rs. 100 to 250 has been made which makes noise pollution only a petty offence. Though, the Uttar Pradesh Nagar Mahapalika (Prohibition of Noise and Regulation of Loudspeakers) Rules, 1987 has restricted use of loudspeakers from 8 am to 10 pm but the punishment for violation at night is only a meager fine. The Rajasthan Noises Control Act, 1963, though implemented, has left ‘loud noise’ and ‘prohibited noises’ undefined. Also, the law has not been updated in accordance with the latest amendment in the central act. In its 2005 judgment, the Supreme Court took a note of the fact that the law relating to pollution and especially noise pollution was existing merely on statute books in the country. In its judgment imposing a ban on the use of firecrackers and making loud noise at ‘night’, the Supreme Court has held,”The issue of noise pollution in India has not been taken so far with that seriousness as it ought to have been. There is a lack of will on the part of the executive to implement the laws.” THE NOISE POLLUTION (REGULATION AND CONTROL) RULES, 2000 clearly states that “Wheareas the increasing ambient noise levels in public places from various sources, inter-alia, industrial activity, construction activity, generator sets, loud speakers, public address terms, music systems, vehicular horns and other mechanical devices have mysterious effects on human health and the psychological well being of the people; it is considered necessary to regulate and control noise producing and venerating sources with the objective of maintaining the ambient air quality standards in respect of noise.” [vide: http://www.lawsindia.com/Industrial%20Law/K092.htm]. And this rules has clear restrictions in section 5, that, “5. Restrictions on the use of loud speakers/public address system. – (l) A loudspeaker or a public address system shall not be used except after obtaining written permission from the authority. - (2) A loud speaker or a public address system shall not be used at night (between 10.00 p.m. to 6.00 a.m.) except in closed premises for communication within, e.g. auditoria, conference rooms, conference rooms, community halls and banquet halls.” In that case no Mosques have taken any permission from any administrative or police authority to use mosque loud-speakers and the early morning prayer call at fazr violates the restriction of timings. And obviously all the Mosques violates the permissible sound level of 65 dB(A) Leq in day time (6.00 a.m. to 10.00 p.m.) and 55 dB(A) Leq in night time (10.00 p.m. to 6.00 a.m.) in residential areas all along. The Kerala High Court had, in a order in the recent past (Feb, 2013), asked the police to take strict action against the indiscriminate use of loudspeakers for religious purposes. “No religion prescribes performing prayers through amplifiers and the use of microphones and loudspeakers by religious denominations are to be within the limits prescribed under the Environmental Laws and Police Acts,” a division bench comprising Chief Justice Manjula Chelloor and Justice K. Vinod Chandran said in their decision on a public interest litigation (PIL) appeal. There are so many orders by the honorable courts, but it is utter lack of the authority to honor it. So, the loud-speakers used in Mosques can be withdrawn for violating existing rules and regulations in force along with the breech of peace and causing health and occupational hazards in many ways. The violations in any form anywhere other than mosques must be restricted in same and non-discriminatory manner. Government should ban the use of loudspeakers in mosques and other illicit use of it any other religious programmes without delay. Related:: Hindus need to unite for removing hooters from mosques ! – Shiv Sena MLA Rajesh Kshirsagar: HJS Site. Shun loudspeakers at mosques, says theologians’ body: The Hindu. Posted in Attack upon Hindus by Muslims, Breaking India, Check Global Jihad, Conspiracy against Hindus, Hindus under Islamic Aggression, India under Islamic Aggression, Indian Judiciary, Islamic Menace, Jihad in Hindustan, Jihad in India, Say No to Islam, Stop Islamic Menace in India | Tagged: Calcutta High Court, Government should ban loudspeakers in mosques, Hindus need to unite for removing hooters from mosques, Kerala High Court, Noise Pollution from Mosque Loudspeakers, Restrictions on the use of loud speakers, Stop Noise Pollution of Mosque loudspeakers, Supreme Court of India, THE NOISE POLLUTION (REGULATION AND CONTROL) RULES 2000
  6. Law and order situation in India is very Bad . Indian capital Delhi has become rape capital of world . Police is corrupt and biased. . Conflict between Hindus and Muslims are increasing day by day . Indian Muslims will destroy Hindusthan from within .
  7. You guys are expecting too much from Modi and Pakistan is creating internal problem in India from every corner . You should read book called Breaking India only then you will realize whats happening .
  8. Partition: And the Making of the Mohajir Mindset by A.R. Siddiqui Veer Savarkar Father of Hindu Nationalism by Jaywant D. Jogleka Changing Homelands: Hindu Politics And Partion Of by Neeti Nair Jinnah and Punjab: Shmsul Hasan Collection and Other Documents 1944-47 by Amarjit Singh Gandhi: Behind the Mask of Divinity by G. B. Sing The Sickle and the Crescent: Communists, Muslim League and India's Partition (Critical Debates on Frontpage, History & Poli​tics on Frontpage) by Sunanda Sanya
  9. Sikh Militancy in the Seventeenth Century: Religous Violence in Mughal and Early Modern India (Library of South Asian History and Culture) Fascinating Hindutva: Saffron Politics and Dalit Mobilisation by Badri Narayan The Cross in the Shadow of the Crescent by Erwin W. Lutzer The Sikh Zafar-namah of Guru Gobind Singh: A Discursive Blade in the Heart of the Mughal Empire by Louis E. Fenech Martyrdom in the Sikh Tradition: Playing the 'Game of Love' by Louis E. Fenech Cultural Entrenchment of Hindutva: Local Mediations and Forms of Convergence by Daniela Berti (Hardcover) From Missionary to Mercenary: How the Church Went from Pacifism to Militancy and Why It Should Return by PhD Alvin L Carpenter Broken Republic by Arundhati Roy (Hardcover) Struggle for the Land: Native North American Resistance to Genocide, Ecocide and Colonization by Ward Churchill
  10. I would like share my wish list . I also request you to recommend good books : Punjab Divided: Politics of The Muslim League and Partition 1935-1947 by Amarjit Singh The Sikh Separatist Insurgency in India: Political Leadership and Ethnonationali​st Movements by Jugdep S. Chima Warrior Saints: 1: Four Centuries of Sikh Military History Report of the Komagata Maru Committee of Inquiry and Some Further Documents (the Punjabi Diaspora Documents and Literature Series) by Darshan S. Tatla (Hardcover) Reflections on Baba Dayal and Nirankari Movement Swami Dayanand and His Tragic Consequences by Gurpreet Singh Sumra Dreams After Darkness ; A Search for a Life Ordinary Under the Shadow of 1984 by Manraj Grewal
  11. Indians doesn't have balls to mess with Pakistan and China . India already have done blunder by creating Bangladesh . Radical Hindus want to scrap article 370 but it doesn't going to help , economy which is already facing slow growth doesn;t want a another internal problem . Giving more power or autonomy to states like Kashmir, Punjab and almost all states of North East will help India.
  12. I would love to see if this really happens . Dogras are not punjabi , they are rajputs of Jammu and majority of gujjars are muslims .
  13. Umdat ul Twarikh (5 vols) - Is is related to Sikhi ?
  14. Maharashtra: Shiv Sena to build Bal Thackeray's 'temple' in Bhadrawati Chandrapur: Even as bickering is on in Mumbai over the venue for Bal Thackeray's memorial, the Bhadravati municipal corporation in distant Chandrapur district in East Maharashtra is mulling construction of 'temple' dedicated to the Shiv Sena patriarch. "A temple of late Balasaheb Thackeray shall be built in the temple town of Bhadrawati in the district with the cooperation of municipal corporation," district unit Shiv Sena president Balu Dhanorkar announced in a press conference. He claimed that the proposal was approved by the party executive president Uddhav Thackeray and the process of completing various formalities has begun. The proposed structure would spread on five acres of land and is likely to cost around Rs 2 crore. Dhanorkar said the temple would be spread on 5-acre of land complete with garden, a library, a community hall and photographs depicting political journey of the Shiv Sena supremo. "The proposed structure is likely to cost around Rs 2 crore and the required funds shall be generated with the help of Shiv Sena MLAs, MLCs and MPs and other political leaders," he said. Shiv Sena is the ruling party at the civic body for the past 15 years.
  15. Photo of Sant Bhindranwale should be installed in Punjab assembly or Savarkar photo should be removed . Mass murders like Thackrey ,Gandhi and Modi are Indian Hindu gods.
  16. Praising Savarkar is like praising Hitler . Bullshit called Hindusrashtra and hate for minorities was started by him and you people have his photo in parliament . Fake Democracy ,
  17. Tony veer i have heard many time from Punjabi Hindus that things will be different if Punjabi Hindus were there . As per them Kashmiri Hindus are cowards that why then ran away . Sher - What do you think , if government gives Punjabi hindus land and money to settle down in Kashmir things will change ?
  18. They dont want to live with India , why you people dont understand it . Hindu fanatics will destroy India by their hate . Original Faith ? what faith ? Is Hinduism is really a faith ? Can you people match Muslims in religious debate ?
  19. Contry which has a photo of Savarkar in their parliament talking about glorification of terrorism . Country where state government was involved in arranging final rites to people like Thackrey should think twice before making statement on glorification oh terrorism . When you can billed smaraks for people like Khanna , why cant we take out procession in support of our martyrs .
  20. Kashmir is not part of India , its just a pain in the Indian ass . Why India wants a Muslim dominated area ? I personally believe Kashmiri Pandits and even Sikh of Kashmir should be settled down in Jammu or Ladakh and Muslim of Jammu and Ladakh should be sent to Kashmir .
  21. Extreme view Shiv Sena chief Bal Thackeray targets Sikhs Salil Tripathi April 15, 1988 | UPDATED 18:54 IST Bombay's one lakh Sikhs will face a crisis unless they accede to the demands of Shiv Sena Pramukh, Bal Thackeray. At a bizarre press conference on March 19, which was a virtual inquisition, the Shiv Sena chief gave them a one-month ultimatum. Within this time, he said, they should send a delegation to Amritsar instructing the high priests to issue a hukumnama against the extremists; else he would enforce a social and economic boycott of them. Many were quick to see the dangers that this extraordinary step involved. Bombay Congress(I) Chief Murli Deora saiditwas "sheer blackmail" and promised the community all help should the boycott materialise. Added former Bombay mayor, Manmohan Singh Bedi: "This will only divide people." Thackeray was unrepentant. "It is just an economic boycott. We are not going to kill Sikhs," he said, adding, "we didn't kill the Sikhs in Delhi after the assassination of Indira Gandhi - the Congress(I) did it." Thackeray began the press conference by circulating a loaded questionnaire asking for assurances from the Sikhs that they hadn't supported Khalistan nor funded terrorists. He charged - without proof - that Bombay's Sikhs had collected Rs.37 lakh for Bhindranwale. Sikh leaders present denied the allegation. Later though, Kulwant Singh Kohli, vice-president. Guru Singh Sabha, and owner of Pritam Hotel in Central Bombay (which was bombed by unidentified men after the assassination of General Vaidya in Pune on August 12, 1986), said: "Some money was collected for Bhindranwale but that was in 1982 when we only knew him as a preacher." Kuldip Singh Chadha, president, Young Men's Sikh Association, and a trustee of Bombay's Khalsa College, said that nearly all Sikhs abhorred the call for Khalistan. Condemning terrorist violence, he agreed that the high priests should refrain from dabbling in politics. But he added: "We can appeal to their good sense but how can we order the priests of our highest shrine?" But Thackeray insisted that local businessmen were funding Punjab's terrorists to the tune of Rs.1 crore every month. When Sikhs present asked for evidence of this, he had none to offer. Said Giani Gurbachan Singh, a board member of the Nanded Gurdwara: "Such calls for a boycott will only pressure us. This is what the extremists want." Sikh leaders Smarting under the humiliation, the Sikhs called a separate press conference and invited Thackeray to lead the delegation to Amritsar. The Shiv Sena chief refused, fearing for his life. When the Sikhs promised him security, he said: "This shows they can control the extremists. How else can they assure my safety from the violence of the ultras?" The Guru Singh Sabha, the apex body of Sikhs in the city, has sent a letter to the Golden Temple and suggested that head priest Jasbir Singh Rode issue a hukumnama preventing the killing of innocent people. The sentiments of local Sikhs have obviously been hurt. Says trader Gurcharan Singh Sethi: "Thackeray wraps the flag of patriotism around himself and takes advantage of the situation. He is not the only patriot." The Sikhs of Bombay are a wealthy community, well placed in the auto, spare parts, transport, hotel and textile businesses. They own 400 restaurants and their collective wealth runs into about Rs.200 crore. With business interests of other communities tied to theirs, a boycott could have widespread effects. Although the city's Sikhs were left untouched by the violence that shook north India after Mrs Gandhi's assassination in October 1984, they did feel the backlash of Hindu resentment nearly two years later after the Vaidya killing. There were many cases of stabbings in August 1986 but the state Government has made little attempt to trace the attackers. Since then, unsubstantiated allegations have also been made about activities in the Nanded Gurdwara. The fact that there was little public anger at the attacks on Sikhs in the wake of the Vaidya assassination has also obviously encouraged Thackeray into believing that a hard line against local Sikhs will secure him popularity. Thackeray: an unreasonable demand The Shiv Sena chief is trying to return to centre-stage after two political adventures failed. One, he could not get the tele-serial on the Partition, Tamas, off the screen. Second, he could not persuade the state Government to delete the controversial appendix of the officially published Riddles of Rama and Krishna by Babasaheb Ambedkar. Thackeray backed down after the Dalits organised a huge rally in support of the publication. Now, the Shiv Sena chief is adamant about the April 19 deadline before which the Sikhs must send a delegation to Amritsar. The Sikhs are reluctant to do so unless he joins in - which is unlikely. More likely is the fact that he may have miscalculated the extent of public support his current campaign can attract. In a city that survives on its well-oiled commercial machinery, any disruptions are bound to be frowned upon, specially in support of a rather extreme cause. Read more at: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/shiv-sena-chief-bal-thackeray-targets-sikhs/1/329167.html
  22. Festival occasion as moment for riot The Hindu Sikh riots that took place at Bidar September 14th and 16th 1988 left at least 6 Sikh students dead, about 100 injured and loss of property worth nearly Rs 62 lakhs. Trouble started on the night of September 14, when a few Sikh students in Gandhinagar were asked to pay subscription for the Ganesh Chathurti celebrations that were to take place the next day. The students refused to pay as they claimed that they had already paid. This led to a scuffle where the Sikh students got beaten up. They later returned to the spot in a larger number and damaged a few vehicles and shops belonging to the Hindus. In retaliation, late at night a group of Hindu young men struck at the houses where the Sikh students were staying and burnt their scooters. During the night, a plot was apparently hatched where it is believed that the future course of attack was decided upon. The planned nature of the attacks- use of petrol, selective assaults on Sikh, burning of the houses of Muslim landlords and sparing those owned by the Hindus- indicate the well thought out strategy that was shaped at the meeting on 14th night. From the next morning, a regular onslaught began- not only on the Sikh students who were involved the previous night, but also against houses and shops owned by Sikhs in other parts of the town. An inadequate police force, tried to keep the two contending groups at bay, but with no success. Six people died and 42 were injured, all of whom were Sikhs. All the 85 houses that were attacked were occupied by Sikhs, though in some cases the owners were Muslims. Property worth more than Rs 1 Crore was destroyed. Spread of Hindutva Before the Hindu–Sikh riots that took place in Bidar (September 1988), an important recent development there has been the growth of majority communal ideology. Although not reflected in electoral terms, there has been the propagation of communal attitudes and prejudices by several groups such as the BJP, the RSS and the VHP. Many of those linked to these groups are also connected to the large number of educational societies there and use such connections to propagate their ideologies. For instance, in Dharwad, Hindu youths had been trained under an RSS/VHP outfit, by a ‘Seth’ living there, about 8 months before the demolition of the Babri Masjid. After these demolitions, there were rumours about an alleged stoning of a temple. (An inspection of the temple did not show any damage due to the alleged stoning). By this time, a mob of around 200 persons gathered in front of the temple, intent upon attacking Muslims and their property. It was the young Hindus who had been trained by the RSS/VHP who along with some other ‘anti social elements’ from the neighboring villages swelled the ranks of the mob that ravaged Uppinabettigeri, Dharwad after such rumors had spread. The Muslims of the village maintain that except for these youths, who have been communalized by the RSS, the Hindus of the village harbor no ill feelings towards the Muslims of the village. Likewise the Hindu on 12/12/92 reported that the RSS and its sympathizers had gone on a stabbing spree in the town of Bidar.
  23. Sikhs killed and injured in Jammu, January 13th 1989 The Sikhs of Jammu arranged for a procession Nagar Kirtan to commemorate the Advent Day of Guru Gobind Singh. With some Sikhs carrying portraits of Sardar Satwant Singh one of the Bodyguards who shot and killed The Indian Prime Minister and Kehar Singh the uncle of Beant Singh the other Bodyguard who was involved in the killing, the procession was suddenly attacked with deadly weapons by a Hindu mob connected with the organisation Shiv Sena. 13 Sikhs were killed and about 100 wounded, some of them seriously. Several Gurdwaras were looted and set on fire that day. Sikh owned properties worth crores were burnt and destroyed. No one was ever arrested or punished for the killings even though the police were witness to the attack and murders.
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