Sardu

ya..neo veere!! you are right.. u were talking about roots.. i just felt that u r just blamming it on them like i have observed many times.. may be i was in "Flow" and didn't observe from your angle.. Sorry veere!!

Lately, I became the fan of Jugraj.., the talented midfielder of Indian hockey team. Unfortunetly, he met with a road accident.. but he will fight back!!

Exactly. Certainly it is. But The solution is with ourselves only. Despite of blaming others for deep consipiracy, it becomes our responsibility to get out of it and make other aware, as well. Another very much valid point!!! I appriciate and share the same concern. .. yes Please Discuss!!

no veere!!! i (we) didn't ( never) mean to say that!! NRIs have definetly done great service to the religion and to the nation (?). No doubt on that. The whole point of me arguning here was/is that when NRIs like many of you, who are sitting pretty far from India with a very little knowledge of what exactly happening here, claim that sikhism is in deep danger in india etc etc. DOst!! This is not the CASE. The source you use to get the information is what.. a web site?? what is the authenticity? How do you cross check it? Yes, There are many problem within the relgion here, but, than, where it is not? and we generally don't discuss about those problems because we (want to )know very lillte about them. India is way way different than the countries , you guys, live in. India is not an easy place to live as compare to your developed countries.. but We live here and we live Proudly. No matter how difficult the life here, we enjoy it. One day we may have argument with hindu or muslim brother but other day we will be celebrating some festival togther, greeting each other, hugging each other. Positive side is, at least we can argue, we can raise voice.. or demand. Outside.. is that possible? where one has to go to court so that he can wear "Pagh" officially at work. Brother(s), Sister(s) and Friend(s), from outside the problems here may look BIG or serious... but for us these are not big deals.. we can and we do tackle with them easily. We didn't let the religion DIE here.. We just didn't show our concern and spoke. We have kept the religion in "Chadhi Kala".Go to any city of north India, talk to people, Sikhs has reserved the respect of being "Most hard workers" and "most lively ones" Everywhere. I can't say anything about the Respect and Place in the scoiety earned by NRIs in Their respective countries/cities, for the reason that i am not aware. I certainly hope for a distinct reputation of sikh community in those coutries.... because after all we all are sikhs.. we leave our impression of hard work and royality where ever we go. And When we (I) question the contribution of NRIs' contribution to sikhism it is out of the quest to know what we don't know? Its certainly not finer pointing without full information or half information received through web-site or other means. We actually want to know what is the position/ respect/recognization we sikhs have out there. But, Sadly this is what you get in response... Bhul Chuk Mafi.. With sincere regards Sardu!!

Ohh!!! Touching!! and sadly, i observed that nobody has taken these "True" question directly. No body answering them. except.. you are right veere. But, Why this is here. Many of our friends come with so many quotes of sggs etc. when discussing topics.. what happens to their knowledge when it comes to caste thinh.. why they are ignorant on this still. and if your answer is this.. this is sad. I can recall one line i read on this forum only, Whatever BAD sikhs are doing, blame it to hindus!!! This ain't correct way . There are so many other customs of hindus which we have left/forgot easily.. why we still living with this one? lack of will.. un-easyness in leaving it? why?

Impressive!!!! I admire/appriciate These Thoughts and agree with them. 10-20 days back when i posted on first page in this thread.,. i didn't think that this discussion will lead in these directions. Today, after so many days, today when i see this topic of 7 pages, i am realizing what is the different between Discussing and Arguing. Nonetheless, Your efforts/post were classic.

lol!!! i agree. he he he!! lol!!!! yaah.. same here.. i m working on arranging a Scanner!!

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Right.. it may his individual views.. nevertheless nobody ask/suggest you to CUT!!! I will say this is somewhat "Hyper". Everone was drunk?? Well i agree this is very very common in sikhs here. but again, only because of these obeservations you can't claim what you have done. Please refer to the Steel Bangle's Post; He has also shared some observation he made, which you, somehow and unfortunetly, didn't do or forget to mention here. No body is perfect.. yes i agree there are some bad practices like drinking, is comman here, though i don't know abt outside so not saying anything, But, When it comes to sikhi and other religious practice, believe me things are not that BAD as u are guessing!!!!!! Next time when u VISIT India, drop a mail to me, I would try my best to arrnage off from work and would take you around. Probablly that may help!

ha ha..if i can be frank with you, i will say, you are lying.... this definetly sounds faminist, how much excuse you give. .. please don't mind it. on to your query.. well, firstly, I try to use he/she and him/her combination refering to the almighty. But i would say.. when refering to the GOD.. the use of word he or him is pretty okay.. and there exist a word "GODDESS" for which she or her can/should be used. moreover, i will request to have broad approach on this issue.. With Kind Regards for you (ana all females)

CAKE!!! :shock: you mean.. CAKE!!! Kaha hai cake.?? mero ko bhee chaiye.. :twisted:

Nice topic!!! I appriciate. Since you are now looking for the answer of another question, which is not for me, i will keep my mouth shut!

cute hai!!!!

very nice .. veere

nice pictures kaur!!! bahut sunder!!

lol!!! ha ha ha....

yesssss...

Hi ideal . I read that thread .. and i am very impressed by your views.. Bahut acche!!

Great topic!!! I have always that question in my mind!! honest??? on what basis? who They? Come here. Come to my city. Its not in Punjab.. And you will know how much "Damn" we have. The problem with most you is that you see sikh religion bound to pujab only. and decide your views on the bassis of the information you read on web-sittes. India is a Big counrty friends and so as the Sikh religion. you are living "saat Samunder paar" and the best source of info you have got the media.. and your imagination. Please also note that Sikh religion is more that just demading "Khalistan". Beause you are yourself in abroad. I can't understand on what grouds are you COMPARING. How long have you been here in India? I remeber one incident. there is a family in my neighbourhood. The sons of the famliy were studying in Australia. The elder one, came back on a short visit. He was wearing "Pagh" and having beared etc. After the vacation he returned. The very next day, unfortunetly, his father expired. he got the news in between his way back. He has to return immediately. and he returned. AS he arrived home, everybody was shocked. The person who was a perfect sardar since yesterday, is a clean shaved guy with a smart hair cut!! :shock:. Huh? I will not comment furthre, and let you draw the conclusion.. Grow up aap!! have you ever been into Delhi even. Remeber Delhi is not in Punjab. Friends, at no point, i am trying to say that NRIs don't contribute to sikhism. They certainly do. and Its nice to see that. But Dear Friends, Don't think that NRIs are doing something very great and Indians not.. in terms of contribution to the religion. I don't want to blame or curse or something like that to NRIs.. because i don't know the exact condition? same as you are not aware of situation in India. If you talk abt building gurudwars... There are 6 in my town.. and again, its not in punjab. I don't think that you would or could celebrate the GuruPurab the way we do here. Special arrangments are done by local police for the nagar kirtan on gurupurabs.. atleat 5 schools are there in my town which are run by sikhs... and Teach sikhi as a regular subject. I request you all , that please before commenting on the sikhism in india, come, visit to India. Don't just read web sites. Its not a fashion here as it is Outside. Come read books, meet the people and than decide.!!! Bhul Chuk Maaf. With Kind Regards Sardu!

Agree with you... I Wrote the last line with more emotions than logic.. actually it hurt me, thinking that i m the one who is living in the same country so its more of my duty...

Idher bhee!! Happy B'Day hai..

Sikh hai veere tou.. ek hi lakho ke baraber hai... Don't worry!!

Man..don't go so far.. and so quick!! And did u realize that by writing this, you are .actually, defaming your whole family. Isn't this just showing the values you have learnt... or you have been taught. If you can't respect others please don't insult because you are not alone in this world who can use "These" words. I think you will understand the feeling!! By default, I consider you, like my brother and friend so.. no harsh feelings/words. Kind Regards Sardu

:x :evil: if you don't understand, why you see it and why notice so much? anyways, That paint is like sun-protaction lotion.. Since a player has to be on the field for whole day, it is kinda required. Its okay!!!! Try to use better expression next time!! You can actually do it.

Yes. Helmet is for protection. and it became neccessaary when you face a ball delivered @ speed of 80-90 miles/hour from a distance of 22 yards!!! which means. that at this speed... the batsman has less than or equal to one second to decide.. wheather the to hit or to defense and how!!