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if some one wants to go ahead just making statements without backups then its his will ... just reading from sites or magazines would not help u gaining info about nihung singhs ... come and stay with dal ... i told u before that their is bond 80 % being jatt ... but it dont effect their relations with singhs from other race ... and lastly how come shuder getting amrit before anyone else dont make budhadal shuder pro jathebandi if jatt getting before khatri makes is jatt pro jathebandi ... ??? or its just u want to see it like that ... if thats the case sorry i cant help u ...

i have not seen or heard all your 3 question in punjab ... so i cant comment on them ... all i know is there are no seprate langar for majhbi sikhs !!!!

singh ji jad tak tusi kahi jao ki eh jatt pro aa oddon taak theek jad koi dujja example de ke kahe ki eh galat hai oh topic divert ho reha ???? what could be the biggest thing on the earth to prove dal panth is not jatt pro other then this that its jathedar is not a jatt ... ??? u said about uk ... i dont care what happens in uk ... i m more worried about what happens in punjab !!! what kind of discrimination is in langars can u tell about it a little more ??? singh ji there must be some personal issue in them ... if it was because of jaat he must not have been given farra ... i many times got beaten up in class for not doing homework ... if i come out and say its because of my caste ... the society we are in 90 % people would believe it without thinking any further ... i would repeat my words jaat is asked to know ur background ... and one more thing if their is a shudar he would be given paul before anyone else ... now dont budhadal sound shuder pro jathebandi ... ??? and last thing singh ji said actualy what happens ground ... i myself dont belong to a jatt race ... i have visited baba joginder singh a number of times ... last time i visited them was at this diwali jodh mela at burj akali phoola singh amritsar sahib ... i reached their around 8 ... first thing baba ji asked me have u eaten parshada i said no ... they said go and eat ... i sat with sangat where langer was same for all no one asked if i m a jatt ... then baba ji asked have u got any assan ie place to sleep i said no ... they pointed to the corner just next to them ... u can sleep here ... this is the ground reality ...

singh ji i havent read sri sarbloh granth myself nor i have it in any format with me ... but i have heard its santheya a number of times as it kath was done few months back at bagichi sahib gurudwara a nihung singh chauni ... so i have heard a part of it and sarbloh granth has the answer of ever why how and what regarding mareyada and jeevan of khalsa panth including amrit sanchar ... and the audio i posted is for ur comment regarding u have not heard before so that u can hear it now ... not to prove my point or anything ...

@ chatanga brother tusi keha see ur reading sri sarbloh granth may be tusi miss karta ossch chandal jehra 5 th varan hai ossch kayi thavan likheya hoyea ... and luckily i have got katha whose part i m cutting out and posting about 5 th varran ... if u want to know more search it in sri sarnboh granth ... and chandal is not low shudar varn is one which is said to be low !!! rest its mareyada if u want to accept it its ok if u dont no worries ... http://www.MegaShare.com/328504

i dont think so its wrong to ask what jaat u belong to because chandal is a jaat which is not given amrit according to puratan amrit sanchar tradition ... this is the reason of asking race ... and what matters is whats ur jaat after amrit sanchar its khatri ... singh is a khatri surname ... baba bachiter singh was bachiter singh even before taking khande di paul .. and thats a seprate issue ... so asking ur jaat on amrit sanchars in not for pro jatt etc but to know ur background ... and to confirm you dont belong to chandal jaat ...

caste discrimination and jatt thing ... if budhadal is a pro jatt jathebandi ... how come baba santa singh who is sultane kaum be a non jatt ... he is an arora sikh ... secondly if we go in history ... sardar jassa singh aluwalia ... was he a jatt nopes ... what singhs called him ... " HAMKI TUMKI " because they speak hindi and punjabi mixed ... was it a discrimination ... actualy the problem is budhadal has its base in villages ... among jatts ... 80 % form jatts ... its natural to have bond ... malvai cant mix with singhs from majha .. because of language ... is it anti sikhi ??? u can guess just looking at the turban from which part he belongs he is from delhi patiala ludhiana ... is it anti sikhi ... if u look at itehas budhdal has faught against brar jatts of malva ... why ??? wasnt at that time it was singhs vs jatts ... every where else there is hidden racism is going on which is effecting internally attacking sikhism from inside ... but in nihungs whats inside is outside ... yes their is racism ... but it dont have any negitive effect ... if u have kammai and seva no matter u are khatri or shudar ... one so called jatt nihung singh would give u more respect then his fellow jatts ...

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh! Dear Sadh-Sangat This is to inform You that, Budha Dal's meeting is being held on 7th december under the supervision of Jathedar Baba Joginder Singh Ji Rakbe Wale. The meeting is going to be held at Gurudwara Damdamma Sahib, Patshahien Chevien Rakba Punjab on 7th December, all Budha Dal Jathedars, Mahants, Mukhis are attending the meeting for Pathic Ekta and to resolve current issues in Dal Panth. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh! Baba Joginder Singh Ji Rakba Wale

http://rapidshare.com/files/72226328/Narsingh_avtar.amr sadh sangat jee ... 28 nov toon dass de exames aa kirpa karke sir te hath rakheyo guru fathe

chardikalla ...

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its same for all ... 4:30 pm indian standard time ... at that time it would be done all over ... plz match the time ...

chardikalla singh keep shaster in ur reach and what ever shaster ur comfortable with ... and keep shasters in hairs for mareyada ....

chardikalla ... god bless singh ji

lolz urre taan jehre meat nahi khande ohna nu sabar santokh nahi milleya ... but jehre meat khande ohna nu santokh milleya lagda oh kuch boll hi nahi rahe ... akal takth sahib says jhatka is allowed ... if someone thinks his jathebandi is bigger then akal takth sahib he can go with it and live in his world ... but eating or not eating doesnt make u big or small sikh ... in dargha naam jaap will be evaluated not what u eat ... if u have naam jaap in ur hand no matter u eat meat every day ... no one can come in way of u and moksh ... but if u dont have naam simren you dont eat meat ... it will not save u ...

well if u die in battle field u will get mukti in the end ... because dieing in battle field will get u in avstha that sadhu will get after hundred years of jaap and taap ... and here diet doesn't matter ...

well there is nothing as future jathedari ... predicting future is not good ... balbir singh got pug but till baba santa singh ji is alive they are the jathedar of dal panth ... balbir singh is in line ... and we had loads of discussions over this issue with other chardikalla sevaks of dal panth ... singhs whose avastha are not less then brhamgeyanis ... they told one thing baba santa singh ji is keeping their sarrir for a reason .... which will be visible to all very soon ...

these days u can get a bore dusk from a jathedar after showing ur skills with shaster videya .... but u cant get it own ur own and use it .... its not acceptable yet ....

in amrit sanchars of damdami taksal the parkash of dasam guru darbar is done in a separate palki but equal to guru granth sahib ... i think from this taksals views of dasam darbar are clear ...

chardikalla .... today its hard to find aa uncut beard sikh in indian army !!!

regarding oral traditions and senna bassena traditions according to me they go through a linage !!!! like baba ram singh saw what his father baba mehtab singh and sukha singh did how baba charat singh use to do his daily works !!!! what ever they heard from his grandfather the jathedars of panth ... they told this to his son rattan singh and it was noted in the text !!!! oki this is oral tradition !!!! because even names like mehtab singh sukha singh charat singh hari singh bhangi are enough !!!! on the other some baba claim that his rehat is oral tradition but cant provide any linage !!!! and regarding texts there are always texts of every kind available from the starting !!!! if we speak of particularly kavi santokh he must have read every kind of text available !!!! so they made their mind and gave the account !!!! what every things are common in all granths privious to them ... thats sharda !!!! but what ever changes are their that shankas !!!! we have itehas ke guru sahib ne mecca ferreya !!! it was oral tradition then it came bale walli janam sakhi then in other granths laters !!!! its all sharda both in oral and text !!! but when in some granth it is said that no guru nanak dev ji ne mecca nahi feereya !!!! othe shanka pay geya !!! te isdi chaap auun walle granthan ch dikhugi !!!! isda matlab ah taan oh sarra granth hi galat !!!! jai koi pichle granthan ch match karruga he can find out during this period people started thinking certain thing before this it was accepted !!!! and regarding that devi issue if in 2050 some one does search from the texts since guru jis time he can clearly see that before 1900 it was accepted but after this sword issue come and things started changing !!!! and slowly such things will move on !!!! baki my english is not that good so menu apdi post jo samjh ayyi main reply kitti bhull chukk di maffi !!!!

that sakhi i learned from suraj parkash of bhai santokh singh !!!! and their sources about sakhis of dasme pita are mainly soo sakhi and gurbilas patshahi dasvi and oral tradition !!!! and i think both these granths specially that so sakhi can be traced even in times of guru sahib and it contains that devi appeared !!!! i think so but not sure !!!!

bachans of guru gobind singh ji that they will return will not become reality till such persons write such text .... sri dasam granth till date protecting adi guru garnth sahib !!!! sarre scholars ess bani piche lagge !!!! jai kitte sri dasam granth hunda hi na !!!! ajj ehna sarreyan de shetani dimag guru granth sahib nu challange karran te lagge hona see !!!!!

If Durga did seva of Guru Nanak Sahib ji, by sweeping outside Guru ji's house. Why would Durga would be worshipped by Guru Gobind Singh ji. ? ----- it was not durga it was javala devi !!!! for whose darshan guru angad dev ji was going !!!!! chandi is adi shakti !!!! its not in janam and maran birth or death like even devi devtas shiva vishnu mahesh are .... to fight evil akalpurkh took a jyot out of it that was chandi being power it is seen as female part and regarded as devi but it dont have any gender !!!! its just power of akal purkh !!!! and durga was created when rakt beej was to killed ... its duty was not to let any drop of blood of raktbeej fall on ground !!! ______ and singh ji sakhi u gave appeared in granths/books only after 1940s .... and before that years every granth written claimed chandi appered partakh !!!! there she said from now she will remain in khalsa as sword !!!!