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Sat Sri Akal: Aaki - Recalcitrant, disobedient, rebel, defiant.

Sat Sri Akal: Hindu: Sardarji, Barah Baj Gaye!!! Sikh: Bhai Sahib Ji, Je Barah Na Bajde, ta Hinduan Di Ghari Bahut Daer Toh Rook Jandee!

Sat Sri Akal: Where is this written that Mata Bhag Kaur had to obtain permission to wear Bana? (Thanks in advance for info provided). Geisha...also performed sexual acts...not in conduct of a Sikh (unless you are referring to women in general...). I fail to understand WHY it is such a big deal that a woman wished to tie a Dastaar and wear Bana and why she should have to obtain permission from anyone to do such. Someone care to explain this to me?

Moderator note: Let the discussion go and then come to any conclusion.

Sat Sri Akal: Sorry for jumping gun...my bad. I wait. Looking forward to article.

Sat Sri Akal: Ah...heejra. Got its meanings to be these: (1) Unmanly. (2) Eunuch, hermaphrodite. The reference to the page refers to the second meaning. Don't think Keski can do that. :mrgreen:

Sat Sri Akal: Asa Di Vaar Sahib contains a line that states that Turks also wore blue.

Sat Sri Akal: Must annoy some more. Bani and which verse if you have it. Thanks. I am curious as this is really the first time I have ever heard of this.

Sat Sri Akal: Then if someone can point me to where this third gender is mentioned by Guru Sahib, it would be most appreciated. Thanks.

Sat Sri Akal: Yes Niranjana Sahib. Usuall iron toxicity is seen in children who take iron pills like candy and end up suffering from a MASSIVE overdose of iron. Another condition that can cause a problem is some ulceration in the intestines/sotmach, which can cause improper iron absorption into the body, leading to many problems with the major organ systems (liver damage, kidney damage, acidosis, excretion of blood, ulceration of stomach/intestines, ultimately shock). A more common problem, especially in pregnant women, is actually anemia, who are commonly given iron supplements in pregnancy. Sarbloh can be a contributor to iron poisoning...BUT only if some other morbidity exists (unless, as another Singh Sahib stated you find yourself chewing on a Sarbloh batta...in which case...?!?!?!?). As one reads about the body, you learn that it is a very paradoxical system. On the one hand, exposing it to major stressors such as brain surgery or even amputations does not mean the end of life...the body is able to cope admirably and even able to reassign roles to brain regions (blind people can allocate the sight area to other senses, for example). On the other other hand, a minor genetic mutation can flood the body with cancer or a bursting of a small artery in the brain can kill a person almost instantly. Humans exist on a string which God controls. As long as the Almighty jerks the string, we live and move. When the Almighty breaks the string, we fall from the living. These diseases are but excuses for that transition (though all to real for moorkhs like myself). So if iron toxicity was a concern to refraining from Sarbloh, don't worry about it unless you have a condition that predisposes you to iron overload. Daas asks for forgiveness if any feelings were hurt.

Sat Sri Akal: Sorry Bhai truthsingh Ji, reason I ask is cause of this line: "When Guru Ji used this then what exactly he was referring to?" I thought this meant that Guru Sahib was quoted on saying this somewhere. Personal interpretation of this moorakh: Khalsa is the Panth. The Panth is the gender, the caste, the creed the everything. It is this Panthic body that is one whole identity. Nobody I know of says that the Khalsa is going to become one sex. Not to sound rude, but how in the world are people trying to make Sikh women look like men? Has someone been conducting genetic experiments? Tying a Dastaar does not make a woman into a man. A woman going to battle for defence of her faith or in the name of righteousness does not make her a man. What exact action do you see that is attempting to make a woman into a man?

Sat Sri Akal: Today, Sikhs are the dominant religion that wears a dastaar. Others have mainly given that up. In that sense, it is now a unique identity of Sikhs. If everyone wished to go to their roots and adopt the Dastaar again, then they can go ahead and claim that the Dastaar is no longer dominant in Sikhism.

Sat Sri Akal: That would you truthsingh Sahib. The particular quote of Guru Sahib which states that Khalsa has no gender.

Sat Sri Akal: Request for reference to Guru Sahib making such a statement please.

Sat Sri Akal: Not to brag Niranjana Sahib Ji, but I am in medical profession. Excess iron is eliminated in the stool and thus turns the stool a black color (common side effect of taking iron supplements). A genetic disorder can contribute to excessive iron absorption, called hemochromatosis. Otherwise, the body will only absorb what it needs and rid of the rest. This is being taken from Dipiro JT, Pharmacotherapy: A Pathophysiologic Approach. 4th edition. Pg. 1532 and pg 1537-1538. Sorry,

Sat Sri Akal: Single edged Talwar: http://www.sikhlink.net/Store/catsearch.as...28Sri+Sahebs%29 Khanda: http://www.sikhlink.net/Store/catsearch.as...Edged+Swords%29 Chakram and Teer: http://www.sikhlink.net/Store/catsearch.as...29+and+Chakkars I believe the smith you might be referring to is Bhai Jot Singh Khalsa Sahib, who was also responsible for crafting the Sword of the Khalsa, presented at the 300th anniversary ofthe creation of the Khalsa. He is from Northeast U.S. in Massachusettes.

Sat Sri Akal: Dear Nihal Kaur Bhain Ji...forceful? I did not hold a gun to Bibi Ji's head and force her to make a decision. I did not yell or intimidate. I did not put any ultimatum forward. If Bibi Sehajleen Kaur Ji feels that my post is inappropriate and forceful, then my apologies are at her feet. This website is getting WAY too liberal with the usage of that word "forceful". Next I will post that I am going to take my car to the store and someone is going to accuse me of forcing my car into driving! Sorry for any harsh words.

Sat Sri Akal: One who calls the human identity of Guru Sahiban the Almighty is the one who will burn in hell. The other property of the BarhmGyani is that they exterminate the I. Their persona has dissolved, and what is left it the Divine Light of the Almighty. Hope it clarifies. If it confuses further...please delete the above post from your brain, site in the cold for a few hours and run a mile around town. :mrgreen:

Sat Sri Akal: Then Bhenji Sehajleen Kaur must make up her mind to either wear a Dastaar or not. Harsh...yes. But it is probably much worse sitting there continuously saying "Should I, shouldn't I?" So benti to Bhenji Sehajleen Kaur Ji, do ardaas and make a decision.

Sat Sri Akal: Simple: Tie a Dastaar. Spend a week wearing the Dastaar. Then see where you want to go from there.

Sat Sri Akal: har a(n)mrith ras paaeiaa muaa jeevaaeiaa fir baahurr maran n hoee || Obtaining the Ambrosial Essence of the Lord, the dead are restored to life, and do not die again. (Guru Raam Daas Ji, Raag Aasaa, 447).

Sat Sri Akal: "Being apart of the Khalsa Panth is one thing, being a Sikh is another." Got some support to that claim?

Sat Sri Akal: Koar and Kaur - two different names. Perhaps asking them whether this article referres to Akal Kaur Singh Sahib or another Akali Singh.

Sat Sri Akal: Slight warning...that webpage linked above by Khalsa Sahib prompted me that is contains a virus!!!! Careful!!!

Sat Sri Akal: It would take a LOT of iron to cause iron poisoning (any one here chewing on Sarbloh batta?). The body compensates well...if it does not need excess iron, it will get rid of it.