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Dear Kavita Kaur Ji, Please have a look at this picture http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Badhijab.jpg In this picture A young Iranian woman is warned by the police for bad hijab. In April 2007, thousands of woman were warned by the police about immodest dress. Do you see anything wrong with her dress? and also have a look at this photo : http://www.flickr.com/photos/farshadebrahi...in/photostream/ If someone wants to follow a certain set of rules they can follow by themselves, but why are they forcing on others. Your dad is a doctor. So he surely gets all the respect and admiration by the Iranian people, His opinion of Iran will usually be of a positive one. but i am talking about the common poor person who lives in Iran. I can imagine a rich iranian women or men getting away with everything, but those who have no influence, what about them?

Okay, I would appreciate some comments from my friend Singho, on this topic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breastfeeding_fatwa

Well said ! it couldnt have been said better than this.

Kavita Kaur ji, so you do admit that there Zeynabis who intervene when they complain about lack of morals, you do ado mit that there are elements in the Irani society which can be of riskh to young people and couples, and knowing this fact you still choose to side with Iran? Do youknow in Iran your not allowed to wear your kirpan outside or do any kind of gurmat festivals openly. Wome in Iran are made to wear hijab, because they think that the hair of the woman can seduce man !! so they want to cover up all the hair and only husband has the right to see the hair of his wife. In gurmat amritdharis cover their head out of respect for God , Guru.. so its a totally different context ! its got nothing to do with sex or avoiding adultery. Why does it has to happen all the time with the woman? all the rules and regulations have to be on the women and not on the men ! if shes raped shes to be blamed in Iran, if shes go out with a boy, shes to be blamed.. The man can roam around free... not good , not good. Can you do me a favor, Just ask your dad how much of a sikhi parchaar can be done in Iran openly ??? is it the same like in US? Please ask him this.

wow !! i didnt know any thing about sigheh and muta. this is the first time I am coming to know... well clearly i dont see any difference between sigheh/muta and prostitution !.. they both are the same. Its like making "prostitution" as "legal" under the name of marriage. in anycase, these things are strictly against gurmat !

veer ji, now where is suleman, did he take rebirth already? if so , does anyone know what happened to him at this present time?

and read this http://www.searchsikhism.com/deep.html

As for my paki friend (now i would call a pakistan, a paki only, what else). Did you know there is punja saab in pakistan. Did you know that some guy tried throw a HUGE, A REALLY REALLY HUGE PIECE OF ROCK to kill some people and Guru Nanak Dev ji stopped it with one hand and the marks of his hands are still there on the rock and thats why its called "Punja Saab". Singho, stop keeping yourself in ignorance. Suleman is not a ghost tape. I showed that tape to one very old man in India, and he said it was authentic. brother, if you got some intentions that we will join you or become like you then you are wrong... Before you even think about writing your next post.. I suggest you read about Bhai Mani Singh here :http://www.searchsikhism.com/mani.html

Mehtaab Singhji, for good information I suggest you read the book Guru Nanak Dev ji by Dr. Tarlochan Singh, it is a 600 page biography. The book is also available online to read at http://www.allaboutsikhs.com just go into the Guru's section/

Mehtaab Singh ji, I did not read that, but I read Bani, I listen to my Kirtan and I know how my Guru was and is. When I said Guru Nanak Dev ji never use to eat, I meant to say that he had no hunger for food ! ofcourse he ate the dry and sukhi roti of Bhai Lalo and he ignored and rejected the good looking food of that brahmin in that same village. Guru Nanak Dev ji ate whatever sukhi , missi roti that his lovers had to give Him. BUT Guru Nanak Dev ji did not have any hunger for food. He was satisfied. He was not bounded by the worldly needs such as foods, sleep, water. He was Giver of these things.

Nice Photo I dont think there will be a problem wearing that Kavita Ji, by Iranian Law you would have to wear that if you want to travel. Would you like to wear it sister?

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh, I am just wondering if the Suleman tape is still around. I had downloaded the full-version of it from this site and is still in my computer, but some of my friends want to listen to it. Its very enlightening.

Kavita ji, the fact that Shirin Ebadi is still fighting for women's rights and that such a tragedy happened with that lil 16 year old girl.. dont you think that these two facts are enough to make classify Iran as one of those "NO-GO" countries. While i admit that a person like you and me can go and live there properly and come back safely, but life will not be the same as in a western country. Especially you will have to wear a veil there

and there is also a quote in Gurbani that says Guru Nanak was God ! and Highest of ALL .

Thank You Singho for your comments. Now I can better understand with whom I am dealing with. Perhaps you should listen to the Suleman Tape which can tell you better about your Prophet PBUH, reference is made in there. Now as for prostitution. I have mentioned in my previous post that sikhi is a path that leads man to God. It is not an political or a governing body to govern the lifes of people. Now as for your comments on SatGuru Nanak, let me tell you who SatGuru Nanak was. First I would like to tell you that there is No Difference between Satguru Nanak and God... God came in the form of Satguru Nanak and this has been mentioned in our bani... So Satguru Nanak was not a muslim, hindu, christain or even a Sikh.. He was JAGAT-GURU.. OR THE TRUE GURU, TRUE MASTER. SatGuru Nanak was the only Guru who during the time period of 1400s travelled all over india, travelled high up in the himalayas, travelled to saudi arabia, iran, iraq, afghanistan, pakistan and Iraq. An odinary human being or a sufi saint cannot travel that much on his feet. In Iraq He showered his grace on a muslim fakir who had sat in samadhi in cold winters and summers and his grave is still there in the Gurudwara where he visited. During the Iran-Iraq war many people who believed in Guru Nanak would visit that place in iraq and take the dead bodies of their relatives first to that place and then burry it. Some facts about Guru Nanak , if you didnt know : 1)Guru Nanak never use to sleep, never use to eat. When Guru Nanak said it was day. The night use to turn to day. 2)Guru Nanak was born enlightened. Guru Nanak knew everything about God from the time of his birth. He didnt goto any school, because He knew everything about the subjects taught in his school. To get his formal intiation he disappeared into a river for three days and came out with the Jap Ji Sahib. I suggest you read Jap Ji Sahib and tell me if you had read anything like that before. Guru Nanak dev ji is still present in the Sri Guru Granth Sahib today. People who believe this have seen this. Did you know that there was a doctor who had cancer and there was no cure. So some people asked this doctor to start reciting the Sri Guru Granth Sahib. As this doctor was reciting the SGGS continuously he saw a light coming from the SGGS and his cancer was cured. This story is all over the news. The holiest place of the Sikhs is the Golden Temple-Amritsar and I just remember three days ago I watched on star news how a blind girl who had faith in the Guru got cured instantly when she was praying at the Golden Temple Now Let me tell you some facts about Sikhs. Did you know that sikh women were asked to convert, but when they refused to leave sikhi... their kids were taken and slaughtered into pieces and were made to put as necklaces in their neck and these sikh women would not even shed a single tear in their eyes... thats how strong our women are ! so borther ..forget it.. i suggest you goto a christain or a hindu forum who will follow you. Man I suggest you and your brother javanmard stop trying to distract my brothers-and-sisters from the path of sikhi, cos you are really wasting your time... cos your persian ancestors and your aurangzeb tried to do that exactly ..but never succeeded. and please Singh means lion... it doesnt suit you... try changing your name to somthing like "paki"

Yes i know prostitution is a bad thing and I know it is illegal in all countries.... except a few european... but is it right to execute prostitutes?????? just answer me that.

singho, do you believe in the veil? i have heard of afghan women getting executed just cos they didnt want to wear the veil.... so tell me do you believe in the pardha system also, veil system also... and you like to force your ideas on people and if they dont follow you then punish them??

Singho, Are you muslim? pls tell the truth. i repeat, freedom is not about forcing people into doing htings you like.. and whatyou feel right, ... religion and politics should be kept seperate..thast best !!! as for ppl geting drunk.. we always the police to handle such situation, but you want to execute them just for getting drunk !!!! and you want to give them 50 lashes for it !!!

Singho, are you muslim?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qm5ceRRgCg...ted&search=

I have seen some baba ji's coming and saying all women must wear dastaars, lipstick not allowed, make-up not allowed.... if we go by this thinking..then you guys surely will be caleld the next taliban.

Veer ji, What are you saying? Sikhism is a path to goto God , it has nothing to do with being a set of laws or a sharia-type thing to govern people in a country. The rehitnamas, the rehat... is to be followed personally as everyone is at a different state of englightenment, it is not to be forced on someone and someone should not be forced to follow also. If someone drinks alcohol... I'd tell him to start doing simran and path at the sametime also.. so that he will get enlightened though simran and ultmately be able to have the strenght of leaving alcohol be it in this life or the next. If you are talking about punishment and banning things.. I would say you are going to become the Next Mr. Taliban. Guru ji did not punish anyone for such doings, but Guru ji just concentrated saved everyone with love and not with punishment or by force and nor did Guru ji force anyone to do anything. I know Maharaja Ranjit Singh was punished a couple of times.. but that was he also had shardha, he peshed and he accepted the punishment, it was not like someone picks up someone and executes them.

Kavita ji see this video also after seeing the video have a look at the commentaries posted also. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lFNx3n0MNM

On August 15th, 2004 a 16-year-old girl was hanged in a public square in Neka, Iran. Her death sentence was for "acts incompatible w chastity". Her name was Atefah Rafavi Sahaaleh. The only evidence against Atefah was her own forced confession. Atefah railed against her judge in court for its unfairness, but this was her undoing. Judge Haji Rezai, who was also the local mullah, prosecutor and head of the city administration, personally obtained permission from Iran's Supreme Court to execute her, and put the noose around her neck himself before she was hoisted on a crane jib arm to her death. Atefeh lost her mother in a car accident. Her father was a drug addict. At the age of 13, a 51 year old former government agent started molesting her. On the night of her wedding to a boy who loved her, she was taken by the authorites and soon after executed without knowledge of her family. There are at least 81 other children facing execution in Iran. Sign the petition to stop child execution in Iran. Visit: www.stopchildexecutions.com. The film clips are from a documentary film made by BB2 called "execution of a teenage girl" which can be viewed in full at : http://www.stopchildexecutions.com/mu... NOW WHO WOULD WANT TO LIVE IN A COUNTRY THAT EXECUTE KIDS FOR ZINAH !